ULCER ABOVE HORSES HOOF

ULCER ABOVE HORSES HOOF 07 Nov 2011 20:18 #8167

Gaya
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Hi
My friend's horse has an ulcer already for about 6 months just above hoof and treated with Antibiotics, soaking with all different solutions and treated with homeopathic remedies, but her vet adviced yesterday to have it maybe operated and treated with extensive AB's and no guarantee that it will solve the problem, he maybe thinks it has a foreign body growing in it. The other option is to put the horse down.
My knowledge so far with infections above the hoof is related to a laminitis problem. I realize that it is not easy to give a horse orally the amount of mms drops and water, has anybody a suggestion what to try??
They are giving the horse about a week to make a decision and I hope we can figure something out what will improve and heal the wound. The circulation is really poor and of course it is standing/ limping on the foot.
Anybody has a suggestion
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Gaya

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Re: ULCER ABOVE HORSES HOOF 07 Nov 2011 22:07 #8169

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You might try spraying/rubbing the area with mms diluted to 10 drops per ounce of water, then rubbing DMSO over top of that. Anyone with more experience, please chime in. Like you said, it would be hard to administer orally even in capsule form (wouldn't want the graceful beast to bite the cap!)

Watch for skin or mood irritation. I understand it can be applied to other areas of the skin to lessen irritation while still delivering benefits.

The bag protocol might be useful IF you can get the horse to stand still while you fit it with an original design...

best to your equine friend,
-dish

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Re: ULCER ABOVE HORSES HOOF 07 Nov 2011 22:31 #8170

Gaya Topic Author Offline Senior Member Posts: 49 Thank you received: 22	Thanks very much when she choose to go ahead with this I will let you know the results. cheers Gaya
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Re: ULCER ABOVE HORSES HOOF 08 Nov 2011 03:42 #8173

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Hi Gaya,

I would try a cloth soaked in a strong solution of MMS2. Here is a copy of a post from Bruce genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=8&id=3014&Itemid=66#3823 (bottom of page) will post it below also. Edwin has also mentioned this technique as being very good.

Re-Posting here some good advice Bruce had for Erico.(Thanks Bruce!)

If you're still looking for a way of approaching helping the tumors to heal, I urge you to look into using dissolved MMS2/calcium hypochlorite (Ca(ClO)2), which after dissolving is a strong hypochlorous acid (HClO) solution. I've been having great success with using a super-saturated solution of MMS2 (I put more of the MMS2 than will dissolve into distilled water, so that there's maybe 1/4" [5mm] of MMS2 left on the bottom of the container). I apply this topically onto lesions, skin cancer, etc., then after it's dry I apply a 70% solution of DMSO on top of that, to help take the hypochlorous acid deeper into the tissue.

The DMSO also is a major aid to healing in its own right, and helps with healing scar tissue.

The purest calcium hypochlorite pool shock that I've found is Pool Life Turbo Shock at 78% Ca(ClO)2 - you should find it easily on Google.

Michael

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Re: ULCER ABOVE HORSES HOOF 09 Nov 2011 23:58 #8192

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Hi Michael,

I have the DMSO but how do I need to make the 70% solution as you suggested above to put on the ulcer of the horse. The bottle I have is a 99.9% form,

And another question I am now for weeks on the 8 hrl mms1 and added 10 days ago mms2 to it do I need to add as well DMSO? My problems improved 80% but not all are healed like a lumb around my thyroid decreased but is still not gone.
Please advice when you can

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gaya

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Re: ULCER ABOVE HORSES HOOF 10 Nov 2011 05:14 #8196

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Hi Gaya,

To make the 70% solution, put 7 parts DMSO together with 3 parts water. It could be 7 tablespoons of DMSO and 3 tablespoons of water, or whatever measure you want to use. Try to use distilled water or the cleanest water you can get.

You can take DMSO with your MMS1 drops according to protocol 1000+ (jimhumble.biz/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=49&Itemid=72), where you activate your dose and then add the same number of DMSO drops as you have MMS1 drops and activate another 3 minutes before adding your juice or water. This would be a good idea for you since you have not gotten a complete cure yet.

There has not been any advice to add DMSO to MMS2 doses.

Michael

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Re: ULCER ABOVE HORSES HOOF 13 Nov 2011 19:15 #8226

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Update on the Ulcer above the horses hoof, Using MMS2, MMS1 and DMSO as solutions on the ulcers and around the hoof rim made the ulcer look smaller and you can see that there is more blood supply to the effected sites. The horse has less pain so that is all great.

What I do not like is that the 2 wounds are still oozing yellowish puss out of both wounds. Now in my opinion it is good that the wound is still open so all the 'rubbish' can get out and it releases the pressure but I would have expected that the colour of the oozing would be more clearer. Seeing that it still looks like infected puss (it has also a slight odour) makes me wondering if there is a foreign body in there?

My question is does the treatment activates the release of infected cells by stimulating to release and discarding it into oozing pus ( I hope you understand my muddled written english) or do you think that there is something else going on and when so what do you suggest doing???

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Re: ULCER ABOVE HORSES HOOF 14 Nov 2011 05:42 #8234

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Hi Gaya,

The fact that the puss is yellowish and smells would indicate to me there is an active infection. It would seem there may be a foreign body there that is keeping it from healing, like a splinter or something. However, considering how long it has had these ulcers, maybe it will just take a while to heal them all the way.

Considering that there has been a good response so far, oral doses might really help. Maybe you could use a turkey baster or syringe without a needle to put MMS1 doses into the horse's mouth. I have read about people doing this with goats and it worked well. Maybe some MMS2 capsules in the feed would work too.

The active ingredients of MMS1 (chlorine dioxide) and MMS2 (hypochlorous acid) are chemicals that the immune system itself makes and uses to kill pathogens and detox poisons. The DMSO is anti-inflammatory and antioxidant I know, and carries the active ingredients of the MMSs into the tissues. I do not believe any of these three chemicals are causing the yellow or the smell. The body is using all 3 of these chemicals to fight the infection that is still apparently active.

Michael

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