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MMS: sodium chlorite (NaClO2) 28%
MMS1 or Activated MMS: chlorine dioxide (ClO2)
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Citric acid vs HCL, please help
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02 Dec 2020 01:19 #66732
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Thank you for all the information, you rock!
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13 Dec 2020 20:42 #66960
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Hello CLO2,
I would like to make a report about Protocol 1000, since it has been 10 days since I started. I would appreciate it if you could help with some troubleshooting.
The first day I took it, I felt my stomach slightly upset, but I had no other "side effects".
However, both the chronic issues I am trying to treat seem like they have flared a bit. I changed my sleeping and eating schedule to accomodate for the doses, so I don't know whether my body is reacting to the change or the MMS1..
My worry is whether I made any mistake while preparing the MMS, and thus, if it is being effective. I used bottled water, and when I measured 100 ml as per Jim's recipe, it was around 120 grams, and not 122 grams as he recommends. I also didn't filter it, although I doubt this causes issues.
I take it with bottled water, and only snack twice while taking it.
Do you think my body is reacting to it by having a flareup first? What should I do if I see no difference after a while?
Also, could I take the dose with less than 120ml?
I would like to make a report about Protocol 1000, since it has been 10 days since I started. I would appreciate it if you could help with some troubleshooting.
The first day I took it, I felt my stomach slightly upset, but I had no other "side effects".
However, both the chronic issues I am trying to treat seem like they have flared a bit. I changed my sleeping and eating schedule to accomodate for the doses, so I don't know whether my body is reacting to the change or the MMS1..
My worry is whether I made any mistake while preparing the MMS, and thus, if it is being effective. I used bottled water, and when I measured 100 ml as per Jim's recipe, it was around 120 grams, and not 122 grams as he recommends. I also didn't filter it, although I doubt this causes issues.
I take it with bottled water, and only snack twice while taking it.
Do you think my body is reacting to it by having a flareup first? What should I do if I see no difference after a while?
Also, could I take the dose with less than 120ml?
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14 Dec 2020 03:39 #66962
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Kara, I have a few questions before I can answer yours.
So, you completed the Starting Procedure using MMS1 which began with 1/4 drop hourly doses and on day 5 you started taking 1 drop hourly MMS1 doses. Is your MMS1 hourly dosing 1 drop doses now, or higher?
Which activator are you using, 50% citric acid or 4% HCL? Mixing equal amounts of drops in a clean, dry glass for 30 seconds and then adding about 120ml of clean water?
How much water and 80% sodium chlorite flakes (weights) did you use to make MMS?
For smaller doses of MMS1, you can use less than 120ml of added water.
So, you completed the Starting Procedure using MMS1 which began with 1/4 drop hourly doses and on day 5 you started taking 1 drop hourly MMS1 doses. Is your MMS1 hourly dosing 1 drop doses now, or higher?
Which activator are you using, 50% citric acid or 4% HCL? Mixing equal amounts of drops in a clean, dry glass for 30 seconds and then adding about 120ml of clean water?
How much water and 80% sodium chlorite flakes (weights) did you use to make MMS?
For smaller doses of MMS1, you can use less than 120ml of added water.
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14 Dec 2020 06:49 #66975
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I succesfully completed the Starting Procedure, and began to take to take 1 drop every hour after day 5. My dose remains 1 drop per hour.
I used the 4% HCL activator, and follow the mixing procedure exactly as you described.
I modified Jim's receipe for a smaller amount, and used 50 gr. flakes and 128,57 gr of water. My flakes are from Prescribed for Life.
My MMS has a slighly yellow tint, but is not too discolored.
I just got hold of Jim's book, and saw that he warns that the color should be amber when mixing. Mine turns not exactly amber, but rather an intense yellow..
I also realized that the bottled water I used to make the MMS and the doses contains Cl 5ml/l. I don't know whether this is a deal breaker, but I am tempted to make a new batch with purified water, and perhaps use it for the doses as well.
The only thing that has changed so far health-wise, is that my usually stuffed sinuses feel open, although mostly during my dose hours. After that, they kind of revert back to being blocked.
I used the 4% HCL activator, and follow the mixing procedure exactly as you described.
I modified Jim's receipe for a smaller amount, and used 50 gr. flakes and 128,57 gr of water. My flakes are from Prescribed for Life.
My MMS has a slighly yellow tint, but is not too discolored.
I just got hold of Jim's book, and saw that he warns that the color should be amber when mixing. Mine turns not exactly amber, but rather an intense yellow..
I also realized that the bottled water I used to make the MMS and the doses contains Cl 5ml/l. I don't know whether this is a deal breaker, but I am tempted to make a new batch with purified water, and perhaps use it for the doses as well.
The only thing that has changed so far health-wise, is that my usually stuffed sinuses feel open, although mostly during my dose hours. After that, they kind of revert back to being blocked.
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14 Dec 2020 07:53 #66978
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Your MMS recipe is perfect.
A simple formula to make MMS: Just use the number 2.57
Multiply the amount of Sodium Chlorite you want to use by 2.57 and the answer will be how much water you need. (weight)
454 x 2.57 = 1166.78 (1167)
Divide the amount of water you want to use by 2.57 and this is how much Sodium Chlorite you need. (weight)
1167 ÷ 2.57 = 454
mmsinfo.org/infosheets/What_is_MMS_and_How_to_Make_it.pdf
You could try nebulizing CDS or CDH up to 50ppm.
A simple formula to make MMS: Just use the number 2.57
Multiply the amount of Sodium Chlorite you want to use by 2.57 and the answer will be how much water you need. (weight)
454 x 2.57 = 1166.78 (1167)
Divide the amount of water you want to use by 2.57 and this is how much Sodium Chlorite you need. (weight)
1167 ÷ 2.57 = 454
mmsinfo.org/infosheets/What_is_MMS_and_How_to_Make_it.pdf
You could try nebulizing CDS or CDH up to 50ppm.
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14 Dec 2020 09:44 #66982
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Thank you for the formula!
I will continue using my mixture as it is for now.
Since my issues has to do with fungi overgrowth, I thought I could switch to the Mold/Fungus Protocol starting from one of these days.
In case nothing changes after I finish it and resume taking MMS1, would increasing the dose be a good idea? Or is CDS considered a more efficient choice? (when MMS1 seems to not be working, at least)
I would like to make CDS, but I am still in the process of understanding MMS1, and feel a bit confused right now.
When you say "nebulizing", you mean creating CDS as that Andreas Kalcker video demonstates, where he adds a shotglass of MMS1 in a closed jar of water, right?
I will continue using my mixture as it is for now.
Since my issues has to do with fungi overgrowth, I thought I could switch to the Mold/Fungus Protocol starting from one of these days.
In case nothing changes after I finish it and resume taking MMS1, would increasing the dose be a good idea? Or is CDS considered a more efficient choice? (when MMS1 seems to not be working, at least)
I would like to make CDS, but I am still in the process of understanding MMS1, and feel a bit confused right now.
When you say "nebulizing", you mean creating CDS as that Andreas Kalcker video demonstates, where he adds a shotglass of MMS1 in a closed jar of water, right?
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14 Dec 2020 10:08 - 14 Dec 2020 10:09 #66983
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When you return to taking MMS1 you can increase dosing when following P1000. From there you can move up to P1000+ which adds DMSO to the mix.
You can make CDS and give it a try. CDS works well for nebulizing CLO2. Not sure I would use MMS1 for nebulizing. CDH seems to work fine in a nebulizer. It is much more activated than MMS1 and you need CLO2 if you use a nebulizer. MMS1 has very little CLO2 until it reaches stomach acid.
Yes, CDS is made by activating MMS in a shot glass and the CLO2 gas ends up in the CDS water without any MMS or activator. Btw, I developed the shot glass and dual infusion method of making CDS. AK 'borrowed' my methods without giving me credit in his video and book.
You can make CDS and give it a try. CDS works well for nebulizing CLO2. Not sure I would use MMS1 for nebulizing. CDH seems to work fine in a nebulizer. It is much more activated than MMS1 and you need CLO2 if you use a nebulizer. MMS1 has very little CLO2 until it reaches stomach acid.
Yes, CDS is made by activating MMS in a shot glass and the CLO2 gas ends up in the CDS water without any MMS or activator. Btw, I developed the shot glass and dual infusion method of making CDS. AK 'borrowed' my methods without giving me credit in his video and book.
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14 Dec 2020 11:24 #66984
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Ok, got it! The Fungus protocol doesn't mention anything about eating, so I will keep the same routine as now. I will let you know how it goes.
Good to know that. I will do some more research on it, while I am taking MMS1, as it sounds very promising.
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However, that doesn't undermine your value here in these forums.
Good to know that. I will do some more research on it, while I am taking MMS1, as it sounds very promising.
I am sorry to hear that, having one's work used without credit is unpleasant.
However, that doesn't undermine your value here in these forums.
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15 Dec 2020 07:26 #67009
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Hello Chris. I am sorry you are suffering from the same issue. Can you please describe what your other anti-fungals are?
I used to have terrible reactions on my head and face to almost every ingredient I tried, but I finally managed to calm my skin down and cut hair loss by 90% by using raw honey, oatmeal, fresh aloe vera and Epsom salts. I now also sparay my skin with MMS1.
I am not very familiar with MMS2 yet, but please let me know how it goes for you.
I used to have terrible reactions on my head and face to almost every ingredient I tried, but I finally managed to calm my skin down and cut hair loss by 90% by using raw honey, oatmeal, fresh aloe vera and Epsom salts. I now also sparay my skin with MMS1.
I am not very familiar with MMS2 yet, but please let me know how it goes for you.
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20 Dec 2020 20:38 #67139
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Thank you for the list. I have never had any luck with prescribed drugs for CIBO, unfortunately, so I gave up on it. I figured MMS is my last option.
For my fungal acne and skin issues, I took caprylic acid orally, but it was not effective. The only thing that helps my scalp is Epsom salt and aloe vera scrub. It removes the gunk accumulated by the fungi, which causes itchiness and hairloss.
I have H2O2 in mind. I started with MMS1 some weeks ago, just entered protocol 1000, which is 3 drops per day. I am not too sure if it is going well, as I have seen no improvement so far, but I had slight nausea and diarrhea today. I don't know if it is due to having increased the dose or not. .
Please let me know how it is going with you, I would be very interested to hear about your progress.
For my fungal acne and skin issues, I took caprylic acid orally, but it was not effective. The only thing that helps my scalp is Epsom salt and aloe vera scrub. It removes the gunk accumulated by the fungi, which causes itchiness and hairloss.
I have H2O2 in mind. I started with MMS1 some weeks ago, just entered protocol 1000, which is 3 drops per day. I am not too sure if it is going well, as I have seen no improvement so far, but I had slight nausea and diarrhea today. I don't know if it is due to having increased the dose or not. .

Please let me know how it is going with you, I would be very interested to hear about your progress.
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