Infringement of my sovereignty

so when another accuses me of trying to incite violence. where is the respect there?

jbvtme your post was inciting to violence - may I suggest that if you wish to make a joke that you put a LOL or a smiley on it. That way there will be no confusion. His reaction was not out of place, if your post had been legit, and he had no way to know that, because it was only your 2nd or 3rd post. We don't know you.

what protocol does jim recommend to improve one's sense of humor?

Ok I am back home and now face the challenge to defend my sovereignty. Thank you all for responding. I did get inspired be the goat owner who took on the challenge all by her self to change the zoning code so she could keep her goats. Just don't even know where and how to start. I guess the first step is to get my mind back into being home

Good for you!

You may find this as interesting as I have;

archive.org/details/Michael_Badnarik

give him at least, 10-15 min before deciding anything...he gets into property rights and ownership, but I didn't note what time that was
and that was my main reason, but I think his words will speak for themselves.

and I'd love to hear feedback on that!

kw

kw,
wow thank you for sharing that link. I have listened to the first segment (I will listen to the rest) and so far if I understand right I really have no right and have to comply to the Town's rules since I do not own the land.
How ever and maybe he will cover this I do have a right to life and a right to eat eggs that are healthy, more nutritious and clean (no pesticides, antibiotics etc.) So I will continue to listen. Knowledge is power and yes the government will not give me information to make changes. That is what I am searching for. How can I change the current zoning code.
OK going back to listen to part 2

You have to pay very close attention to the words used and how they are used
[ you'll find, the law is not sloppy but us listeners usually are, until we learn a tuff lesson! ]

As far as the town rules are concerned.....are they constitutional? If they are not, how would you defend yourself with that info?

Have any supreme court decisions covered that?

Marbury v madison says that any law that is in opposition to the constitution was unconstitutional from the day it was drawn up!
[ which bring into question a lot of revenue gathering laws doesn't it?! ]

It would do you some good to search out federal rules of procedure and evidence 2 different books/pdfs

Also take a look at the UCC, uniform commercial code.....[ and..... welcome to my world ]

also.... jurisdictionary.com/

forgive me for backing up the truck....


kw

I have some good news. I was able to consult with a lawyer who gave me some very good pointers regarding getting grandfathered in or that they must have some kind of special use permit. After that I called the 'Senior Zoning Administrator' and he was actually very friendly and helpful. He told me what I have to request in order to be 'granted' to keep my chickens/ducks (compared to the code enforcement inspector I spoke to on Thursday, she said there is nothing I could do). So there is hope once I submitt the request and a statement that he will permit me to keep my brood at least for the next month I am safe and I will keep you all posted on the outcome.

Thank you for all of you that responded with support, ideas and info. (kw I will still get through the 8 hours of videos they are very eyeopening even if I am only a legal U.S. resident not a U.S. citizen I very much appreciate the true foundation on which the U.S was built on.

Blessings to you all.
sevenrays

Well, that's great news. I'm happy for you, and you have my prayers!

kw

Just an update and info that I received from a free consultation with a lawyer and various other individuals I talked about regarding my issues with the Town Zoning Compliance. Maybe this will help someone in the future when confronted with a similar situation.

First, these are some pointers the lawyer had for me,:
The State of Arizona has it’s own constitution which entitles a municipality to zone as they feel fit.
However, he said, if the zoning codes changed since you have moved onto that property, yet you have had that kind of activity going on since before the change of the codes and were not prohibit under the old codes and you haven’t stopped for a long period (every municipality has different ‘abandonment of use’ timeframes, for this town it’s 1 year) you tell them you want to be Grandfathered in or get a special permit to continue the raising of chickens/ducks. If the Town says no there is no such thing and I could not request this I was to tell them to show me in the zoning codes the article that prohibits to be grandfathered in or receive a special permit. If they cannot produce such article then I have the right for such provision.

With this information I talked with the Senior Zoning Administrator and said I consulted a lawyer who told me I could request to be grandfathered in or receive a special permit. There must be some provisions that would allow me to continue raising my fowl. The administrator was very nice and referred me to the section in the codes and that I would need to make a request to him to review the status of non-compliance usage of the property. It was a bit tricky since that codes was about the abandonment of such activity and the letter had to formulated the right way. (see attached letter)

Next, the administrator was going to forward to code compliance that he had the case on his desk and not to go forward with the inspection. However it is always good to be prepared for ALL scenarios. I had been told be various people and the lawyer that I did not need to consent to letting the inspector on my property. Even if he came with the police and forced himself in, state ‘I do not consent you entering my home/property’. One lady who had a case of her trespassing on her property by another individual was actually told by the court she didn’t have enough ‘no trespassing’ signs up. She had one to the left and one to the right of the house, but that is not enough. You have to have at least a 3rd one up at the front of the yard or driveway where your property begins. Since this all started I had one sign to the left and one to the right.

September 26th the inspection was suppose to occur but no one showed up. I thought I would be ok to still get the 3rd. sign the next day. Mind you as I come home from picking up that 3rd sign, I see from the distance the inspectors truck in front of my house and sure enough he is walking around in my front yard to the left and to the right. I waited until he was gone before pulling up to my home and put up the 3rd sign (see attachment) Unlike the other two that only say “Private Property No Trespassing”, this one is a bit stronger in its words. The gal at Wal-Mart explained to me with this wording any trespasser can be prosecuted under the criminal trespass law, not just under the regular ‘lighter’ trespass law. The following day, Thursday September 28th, sure enough, the inspector came back (I guess he never did get the message from up the ladder) this time he didn’t even get out of his truck. He saw the sign and read it, then drove off.

The Town employees are off Fridays so I was safe over the weekend not to be bothered. The Senior Zoning Administrator has 30days to review and either will grant or deny my request.

Finding info on-line, getting it from a lawyer to the gal at Wal-Mart, and everything in between. This truly has been like solving a puzzle. The inspector would need to get a search warrant from a judge, everyone doubts a judge would ever really do that. I still want to request all the info about the complaint etc. from the Town to have in my files just in case. I do have the right to know this according to the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) plus I am allowed to face my accuser should this have the remote chance of going to court. (If I get fined it would be like a traffic ticket for a civil violation and I have the right for a hearing. (I pray though it will not come to this and I do get the official ok to be grandfathered in)

Thank you for reading this all, I know this was long and it could have probably been written shorter but it also was kinda like therapy for me to put it all down since this was very traumatic for me. I felt very violated by just living a lifestyle that is more sustainable, conscious and healthy. (Now let me see if I can get the letter and picture of sign in here too)

sevenrays