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From the Vanuatu Daily Post link here

Fink autopsy results made public as dangerous MMS promoted as cure for Gulf oil spill victims

Posted on January 16, 2011 - 11:13am | Category: Features
By B. J. Skane - bjskane(at)vanuatu.com.vu

Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS), the supposed cure-all substance implicated in the death of Sylvia Fink aboard the yacht “Windcastle” at Epi Island in August 2009, is in the world news again.

On December 23, 2010, Deborah Dupre writing for www.examiner.com reported in an article titled “Crude oil, Corexit and now snake oil to fix it” that Gulf Coast [U.S.] Barefoot Doctors (a group of health professionals working to help people poisoned by the April 20, 2010 Gulf oil spill and subsequent cleanup attempts) had exposed MMS, reinvented as “Advanced Oxygen Therapy”, being sold to residents as a remedy for a wide range of illnesses and skin disorders caused by the toxic oil and vapours.

Barefoot Doctors estimate that up to 40 million Gulf Coast people have been poisoned by the oil spill. They say many are suffering standard neurotoxin exposure injuries that are very debilitating. Desperate for help, which it is alleged is not coming from U.S. Health Authorities, the sick are turning to what the health professionals call snake oil.

The person allegedly selling the reinvented MMS in the Gulf, Wil Spencer, at first claimed that his product was a ‘sister to MMS’, but has later conceded that the two are one and the same.

MMS is a mixture of Sodium Chlorite (note chlor’ite’ not chlor’ine’ or chlo’ride) and water which when mixed with citric acid turns into Chlorine Dioxide, a strong bleach which is potentially harmful if ingested.

Since Sylvia Fink died, warnings about MMS have come from many sources including the US FDA, Medsafe NZ and health departments in Canada, Brunei and Denmark. In Australia the TGA has banned the advertising of MMS because the marketers could not substantiate their claims as to its efficacy.

Vanuatu’s Public Prosecutor, in a press release on November 5, 2010, made what is possibly the strongest statement yet by any Government agency against MMS saying: “While every case is assessed on its own merits, I advise that any person who misuses MMS in Vanuatu in the future would be likely to face prosecution for potentially serious criminal offences. No person should ever give MMS to another person to drink without advising them of what it is they are drinking and of the serious risks to health that may arise if they decide to drink the mixture.”

But despite the warnings, the traveling sideshow that is the promotion of MMS via the Internet has not slowed.

Jim Humble, gold miner from deepest Africa and self proclaimed inventor of MMS still runs dozens of promotional websites where books and videos about it are also available for purchase online. His Jim Humble Foundation charitable organisation began receiving donations in August, 2009 – the same month Sylvia died – and more recently he has installed himself as Right Honourable Bishop in his own Genesis II Church of Health and Healing - about as far removed from the usual conception of ‘church’ as it is possible to get.

Both the Foundation and ‘church’ actively solicit funding from the public via the Internet to further the good work of promoting MMS to the (invariably third world) masses; attendees of seminars run by the ‘church’ are promised they will graduate as ‘Minister of Health’ and being so armed will be ready to disseminate their knowledge to the aforementioned masses and insinuations abound that people who do not recognize and promote MMS are actually doing humanity a great disservice.

Various other websites such as “Food for Thought”, www.phaelosopher.wordpress.org run by someone calling himself Adam Abraham, are used for longwinded, mind numbing rants extolling Humble’s magnanimity, the benefits of MMS and lashing out at anyone who dares to speak against it – including the Government departments that have done so and Sylvia’s widower Doug Nash.

As is the norm for most alternative health care brouhaha, all the MMS related websites are paranoid in their attempts to discredit the legitimate pharmaceutical industry.

The editor at www.youwb.com noted in his article (Jim Humble, Nexus Magazine and the MMS Mafia August 18, 2010) “There’s a strange phenomenon that crops up over and over again in our line of work: when you disagree with pathological people, they seem singularly incapable of letting it go and exercising a little ‘live and let live’ philosophy.”

Certainly, since Deborah Dupre’s articles about the use of MMS on the Gulf Coast have appeared on www.examiner.com she has become the target of such pathological pro MMS fervour on the Internet. Jim Humble has personally challenged her, as he did Sydney Morning Herald journalists when their articles about the involvement of MMS in Sylvia Fink’s death appeared last January. When I contacted Luc Callebaut (supplier of the MMS to Sylvia Fink) seeking his opinion for an article I wrote about the FDA’s warning last August, I was subjected to verbal and written tirades as to the benefits of MMS and what Callebaut considers the conspiratorial treachery of the legitimate pharmaceutical and food safety control industries.

And so the MMS gravy train rolls on. Other than a brief period of denial at the time (including such inanities as denying that an autopsy even took place) even the involvement of MMS in Fink’s death does not seem to have caused the wagons to slow.

And why would they have slowed, since at the request of Vanuatu Police and Australian Federal Police, the results of the autopsy and toxicology testing on Sylvia’s body have not been made available to the public. No one has therefore been able to say exactly what part MMS played in her death.

If the results had been known earlier, as they should have been if investigations had been done correctly and in an appropriate time frame, the picture we are seeing today could be very different.

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Sylvia’s husband, Doug Nash has alleged in a complaint to Vanuatu’s Ombudsman that police ‘investigations’ were negligible; that information given to them (including the review of the autopsy results Nash provided to police at their request and in which certain discrepancies were noted) was not followed up or in the first instance provided to the Public Prosecutor and that there was no attempt made by the police to contact or interview witnesses including the supplier of MMS to Sylvia. The last is confirmed in an e-mail from Callebaut in August 2010 criticising an article by this writer and saying: “Fourth, you seem to imply that any (sic) of these people refuse to cooperate with the investigators while none has been contacted by the proper authorities themselves.”

There are also questions as to why, although they knew they were dealing with a possible poisoning case, Australia’s Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine, tasked with doing and reporting on the autopsy, did not run the toxicology tests concurrently. Instead they were run consecutively with unnecessary time lapses between each test causing a delay of at least three months in the finalizing of the report, which (co-incidentally?) was issued the day after the VIFM was contacted by the US Embassy Melbourne to whom Nash had appealed for help when it appeared the results would never be known.

Then it took another nine months for the police to provide the Public Prosecutor with a proper police brief with ‘accused statements’, which were only obtained after the Ombudsman ordered they be.

When contacted last month, the Vanuatu police finally agreed that now the Public Prosecutor has determined that no charges can be laid against the supplier due to a lack proof he was wholesaling it, Doug Nash can release to the public the one thing that may convince people that MMS is indeed a deadly chemical and should be treated as such - the autopsy/toxicology results for Sylvia Fink Solis.
The report, inevitably, is long, technically involved and, for the uninitiated, unpleasant to read despite the somewhat morbid curiosity aroused by such a document. Because of space constraints and the fact that many aspects of the report are not straightforward, I can do no more in this article than report that injury, drowning, asphyxiation, aneurism, arteriosclerosis, heart attack, stroke, or diabetes did not cause Sylvia’s death. There was no alcohol in her blood or illegal drugs. And of course, there was no chlorine dioxide detected since that chemical, as Jim Humble and his followers are happy to advise anyone who cares to ask, disappears, dissipated by the body within an hour or so of ingestion.

Several legal pharmaceutical products, identified as being those Sylvia was taking routinely were found in minute quantities not significant enough to have caused her any harm.

There were no corrosive injuries to the mouth, tongue or oesophagus as would be consistent with taking a larger dose than recommended by the MMS protocol.

All the organs were normal except for the liver, which was “fatty”. The medical term for this is hepatic steatosis. The pathologist noted possible causes as “alcohol ingestion over some period of time, [Sylvia had not drunk alcohol for 15 years], diabetes mellitus (there is no history of diabetes and no post –mortem evidence to suggest hyperglycemia at the time of death) a drug reaction, and non-alcholic steatosis”. The bottom line of this is that a fatty liver did not cause Sylvia’s death.

What almost certainly did though was a “significantly high” level (45%) of methemoglobin found in the blood.

After receiving the autopsy report from VIFM, Australian Federal Police correctly wrote in a memo to Vanuatu Police: “Methemoglobin basically results in the inability of blood to carry oxygen within the body causing cyanosis (lack of oxygen to the system). The [autopsy] report states that if the 45% saturation reading was accurate and existed at the time of death, then the symptoms could be consistent with being caused by methemoglobinemia and therefore a possible cause of death. Most cases of methemoglobinemia are caused by exposure to drugs or toxic substances including chlorate and chlorite”.

The pathologist stated that “Methemoglobinemia may be predisposed to by pre-existing glucose 6-phosphate dehydrogenase deficiency (G6PD), a condition often diagnosed in early childhood.”

Sylvia did not have it.

So why do we say the saturation level of methemoglobin found in Sylvia’s blood and which likely arose from the ingestion of chlorate or chlorite “almost certainly” caused her death and not “certainly”?

Because measurement of methemoglobin levels in blood can only be guaranteed accurate if the blood is unpreserved or has been kept frozen at temperatures dozens of degrees below those of which Vila Central Hospital Morgue is capable. There is no doubt that if Sylvia had been close to a proper health facility at the time she became seriously ill, blood would have been taken, analysed immediately and methemoglobin levels confirmed. These levels, had she subsequently died, would have resulted in a certain cause of death being established.

Unfortunately, Sylvia took the MMS, became ill and died in a remote area with virtually no medical facilities and no possibility of evacuation to a fully equipped trauma hospital within a time frame that could have saved her life. The situation is the same in many other parts of the world where MMS is or has been promoted, with the same potential for deaths occurring that will be dubbed ‘unascertained’ for no other reason than the medical and forensic facilities available do not allow them to be termed otherwise.

The only way to stop this is for MMS to be banned worldwide until its promoters come up with substantiated proof that it is not a deadly chemical disguised as a ‘medicine’.

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Deborah Dupre article following B.J. Skane in the Vanuatu Daily Post 20 Jan 2011 21:23 #277

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MMS: autopsy report, unsolved mysteries, Gulf targeted
by Deborah Dupre

January 18th, 2011 1:40 pm ET

"From almost the moment Silvie drank the mixture of MMS and lime juice — which she'd brewed up according to the instructions of Jim Humble, the principal proponent of the stuff — things went wrong. She became nauseated, and was soon both vomiting and suffering from diarrhea. But since the MMS literature emphasized that this was a normal reaction, she assumed it would pass. It didn't. It turned into a day of torture..." Sylvia Fink Solis bereaved husband, Doug Nash in 'MMS Killed My Wife,' cited in Examiner, Dec 24, 2010)

Following months of mysterious roadblocks by officials' preventing release of the autopsy report of a South Pacific yachter who died shortly after ingesting Miracle Mineral Supplement (MMS), the report was made public Saturday along with the Examiner Human Rights article highlights about MMS salesmen targeting Gulf of Mexico's residents poisoned with crude oil and Corexit. Critics warn that the MMS mixture, Sodium Chlorite (not chlor’ine’ or chlo’ride) and citric acid, turns into Chlorine Dioxide, a strong bleach potentially harmful if ingested, but its chief advocate wants to detox Gulf Coast residents with it.

Australia took a strong stand after the MMS related death in the South Pacific Least Developing island nation, Vanuatu, formerly called New Hebrides, located north of Fiji and south of Solomon Islands where malaria is rampant and diseases of old plague some tribal villages.
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Australian officials banned MMS advertising due inability of its marketers to substantiate claims about the product's efficacy.

The MMS product is to be rebranded, "Cleansing Water" according to its founding manufacturer, Jim Humble, interviewed by Dupré.

In the article, Fink autopsy results made public as dangerous MMS promoted as cure for Gulf oil spill victims published this weekend in the Vanuatu Daily Post, B.J. Skane wrote, "Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS), the 'cure-all' substance implicated in the death of Sylvia Fink aboard the yacht 'Windcastle' at the small South Pacific island, Epi Island, Vanuatu in August 2009, is in the world news again."

Vanuatu police finally agreed that, since the Public Prosecutor determined no charges can be laid against the supplier of the MMS implicated in Fink's death, due to no proof he was wholesaling it, Fink's widower, Doug Nash "can release to the public the one thing that may convince people that MMS is indeed a deadly chemical and should be treated as such - the autopsy/toxicology results for Sylvia Fink Solis."

After ruling out all other possible causes for Fink's death, according to Skane, methemoglobin found in the blood was at a “significantly high” level (45%) according to Ms. Fink's autopsy report.

Skane reported that Australian Federal Police wrote in a memo to Vanuatu Police:

“Methemoglobin basically results in the inability of blood to carry oxygen within the body causing cyanosis (lack of oxygen to the system). The [autopsy] report states that if the 45% saturation reading was accurate and existed at the time of death, then the symptoms could be consistent with being caused by methemoglobinemia and therefore a possible cause of death. Most cases of methemoglobinemia are caused by exposure to drugs or toxic substances including chlorate and chlorite”. (Emphasis added)

Since reported that an MMS salesman was allegedly targeting Gulf Coast residents, such as Kindra Arnesen of south Louisiana, an in-depth written interview has been conducted with MMS inventor, Jim Humble. He explained to Dupré that MMS is the only answer for people in the Gulf of Mexico region to survive and that the possibility exists for people with MMS to visit every home there, with help of his "church Ministers."

Although indicating that he does not know Wil Spencer, the MMS salesmen peddling the product, allegedly under a different name, to Gulf Coast people, in an email on January 16, Humble wrote, "MMS is the only real answer all those people of the gulf have. It is cheap and it will detoxify their bodies. It is the greatest detoxifier for human bodies known at this time as I have observed thousands who have used it.

On January 14, Humble had explained to this writer his plan for ensuring everyone in the Gulf Coast region could use MMS free of charge:

My idea would be to just go to everyone's home and train them to use the MMS and furnish it for free. Surely someone will put up the money. If not, I can find someone who will furnish it at cost plus small expenses. You could probably get enough volunteers to do the training while distributing it. We could mix the MMS on the spot and I could send several Ministers to do the training. All we would need is expenses for their travel. Our church does these things for free hoping to get donations. If I had more money at this time we could do much more. I really don't want my people to make money from this disaster.

Some refer to the MMS advocates as belonging to "the MMS cult." Skane, referring to the MMS "traveling sideshow," reported in the Vanuatu Daily Post:

"On December 23, 2010, Deborah Dupre, writing for www.examiner.com , reported in an article titled 'Crude oil, Corexit and now snake oil to fix it', that Gulf Coast [U.S.] Barefoot Doctors (a group of health professionals working to help people poisoned by the April 20, 2010 Gulf oil spill and subsequent cleanup attempts) had exposed MMS, reinvented as “Advanced Oxygen Therapy”, being sold to residents as a remedy for a wide range of illnesses and skin disorders caused by the toxic oil and vapours.

"Barefoot Doctors estimate that up to 40 million Gulf Coast people have been poisoned by the oil spill. They say many are suffering standard neurotoxin exposure injuries that are very debilitating. Desperate for help, which it is alleged is not coming from U.S. Health Authorities, the sick are turning to what the health professionals call snake oil.”

Skane points out in the Vanuatu article that Wil Spencer has allegedly been selling a reinvented MMS under a different name to Gulf Coasters, first claiming his product was a ‘sister to MMS’, but "later conceding that the two are one and the same." (See: Crude oil, Corexit and now, Snake Oil to fix it)

Spencer has advocated his MMS version that he calls Advanced Oxygen Therapy (AOT) on Facebook's Cause page, Gulf Change, also an organization based in Grand Isle, Louisiana. Since then, that Facebook Cause moderator, Drew Landry asserted in a phone conversation with this writer that, contrary to earlier reports from Facebook's Gulf Change cause "members," Gulf Change has not promoted or endorsed the product. Like others pleading for health care for debilitating physical illnesses, including cancer and injuries, from being poisoned by the Gulf operation, so have those participating in that cause page discussions.

Mysteries abound in alleged MMS caused Fink fatality

According to Skane, after Sylvia Fink, wife of Doug Nash, died in August 2009 within 12 hours of ingesting MMS, the U.S. FDA, Medsafe New Zealand and Canada, Brunei and Denmark health departments issued warnings about the "miracle cure," and Australia's TGA banned MMS advertising due to marketers' inability to substantiate their claims as to its efficacy.

Skane highlights the warning of Vanuatu's Public Prosecutor as the strongest statement yet by authorities:

“While every case is assessed on its own merits, I advise that any person who misuses MMS in Vanuatu in the future would be likely to face prosecution for potentially serious criminal offences. No person should ever give MMS to another person to drink without advising them of what it is they are drinking and of the serious risks to health that may arise if they decide to drink the mixture.”

One of many mysteries about MMS and death of Ms. Fink is the Vanuatu Police and Australian Federal Police request that results of the autopsy and toxicology testing on Sylvia’s body not be made public until their investigations were complete. But those investigations were negligible according to a complaint made by Fink's widower to Vanuatu Ombudsman.

Skane writes that, had the autopsy results been known earlier, as they would have "if investigations had been done correctly and in an appropriate time frame, the picture we are seeing today could be very different."

Another mystery, according to Skane, is that since poison was a known possibility, why were toxicology done consecutively and not concurrently?

The Parliament of Vanuatu.
Australia’s Victorian Institute of Forensic Medicine, tasked with conducting and reporting on the autopsy, ran no toxicology tests concurrently. Instead, these tests were run consecutively, with unnecessary time lapses between each test, causing at least a 3-month delay in finalizing the report. Skane says this final report was "(co-incidentally?)" issued the day after the US Embassy Melbourne contacted VIFM advising that Ms. Fink's widower, Nash, "had appealed for help when it appeared the autopsy results would never be known."

Yet another unanswered question is why it took another nine months for police to provide the Public Prosecutor with a proper police brief with ‘accused statements.’ These were finally obtained after the Ombudsman ordered police to provide them.

According to Skane, "injury, drowning, asphyxiation, aneurism, arteriosclerosis, heart attack, stroke, or diabetes" caused Sylvia’s death and there "was no alcohol in her blood or illegal drugs."

"And of course, there was no chlorine dioxide detected since that chemical, as Jim Humble and his followers are happy to advise anyone who cares to ask, disappears, dissipated by the body within an hour or so of ingestion." (Emphasis added)

Skane concludes:

"Unfortunately, Sylvia [Fink] took the MMS, became ill and died in a remote area with virtually no medical facilities and no possibility of evacuation to a fully equipped trauma hospital within a time frame that could have saved her life. The situation is the same in many other parts of the world where MMS is or has been promoted, with the same potential for deaths occurring that will be dubbed ‘unascertained’ for no other reason than the medical and forensic facilities available do not allow them to be termed otherwise.

"The only way to stop this is for MMS to be banned worldwide until its promoters come up with substantiated proof that it is not a deadly chemical disguised as a ‘medicine’."

On January 16, Humble reported to Dupré, "My church will be using Cleansing Water (it will be MMS) and we will be giving it away and expecting a donation at a future time.

"These bottles will be labelled (sic) slightly different."

Copyright Deborah Dupre, Examiner 2011. All rights reserved.

Deborah Dupré, B.S., M.S., DipContEd, QMHP from U.S. and Australian universities, has been a human and environmental rights advocate over 25 years in the U.S., Vanuatu and Australia. Support her work by subscribing to her articles and forwarding the link of this article to friends and colleagues or reposting only title and first paragraph linked to this Examiner page. Emails This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.. Send targeting and Gulf illness news tips to her with your name or anonymously. See her Vaccine Liberty or Death book plus Compassion Film Project DVDs at www.DeborahDupre.com .


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Bruce's comment on Autopsy articles to "Thought for Food" blog 20 Jan 2011 21:25 #278

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Now, in the wake of a long, 2-page article by B.J. Skane in the Vanuatu Daily Post, Deborah Dupree (who apparently may have formerly worked in Vanuatu) has weighed in on the death of Sylvie (sic - this was how Doug Nash spelled her name in an Oct. 2009 letter) Fink. Links: VDP p1: bit.ly/dL8hWc - VDP p2: bit.ly/dSNGeU - Deborah Dupre, "MMS: autopsy report, unsolved mysteries, Gulf targeted": exm.nr/gSQ4Dd

Dupre follows the line of prejudiced (I think) assertions in the Vanuatu Daily Post, presents the results of her claimed interview with Jim Humble briefly in a sarcastic light, and continues to call Naturopath Wil Spencer an "MMS Salesman" in an apparent ongoing attempt to invalidate his work.

Dupre quotes the following from Skane's article:

"After ruling out all other possible causes for Fink's death, according to Skane, methemoglobin found in the blood was at a “significantly high” level (45%) according to Ms. Fink's autopsy report.

"Skane reported that Australian Federal Police wrote in a memo to Vanuatu Police:

"'Methemoglobin basically results in the inability of blood to carry oxygen within the body causing cyanosis (lack of oxygen to the system). The [autopsy] report states that if the 45% saturation reading was accurate and existed at the time of death, then the symptoms could be consistent with being caused by methemoglobinemia and therefore a possible cause of death. *Most cases of methemoglobinemia are caused by exposure to drugs or toxic substances including chlorate and chlorite.* (Emphasis added)"

I think that these references to the levels of Methemoglobin found in Sylvia Fink's red corpuscles (two weeks after her death, and after possible degradation of the body's chemistry by handling and efforts at preservation) offer the explanation for the recent comments in "the anti-MMS press" on the purported alteration of hemoglobin by chlorine dioxide. In Skane's article, Sylvia's death is “almost certainly” laid at the doorstep of MMS due to the (non-fatal) 45% level of Methemoglobin found in blood cells two weeks after death, which the article basically states, without a shred of evidence, must have been caused by her taking a "2-drop" dose of MMS. The article does report on the findings of liver abnormality (a "fatty liver") which would reflect some kind of chronic condition, but this is merely shrugged off, with the comment that [Sylvia had not drunk alcohol for 15 years] for which no other evidence is provided.

B.J. Skane's article makes a pointed attack on THIS blog: "Various other websites such as “Food for Thought”, www.phaelosopher.wordpress.org run by someone calling himself Adam Abraham, are used for longwinded, mind numbing rants extolling Humble’s magnanimity, the benefits of MMS and lashing out at anyone who dares to speak against it – including the Government departments that have done so and Sylvia’s widower Doug Nash."

I guess "longwinded" and "mind numbing" are in the eye of the beholder. The accusation regarding MMS supporters "lashing out" at those mounting these voluminous ad hominem attacks on those asserting their god-given rights to make their own decisions about how to approach their own wellness and about the truth concerning healing methods, would seem to be the pot calling the kettle black. It's also of note that nowhere have I seen any honest response to the questions raised or factual observations made in these longwinded rants by "the cult."

Both of these articles, like so many demonizing MMS, make constant attempts to discredit chlorine dioxide use and users, without citing evidence. Dupre writes "Some refer to the MMS advocates as belonging to 'the MMS cult.' Skane, referr(ed) to the MMS 'traveling sideshow'..." This is supposed to be objective reporting from one of those DOING the branding of people who consider the possible benefits of MMS as a "cult." It can't simply be that the people questioning the attacks against MMS have legitimate questions about the lack of objectivity and the emotional vehemence of these attempts to confuse the public.

I made a comment to Dupre's article on Examiner.com, which I append:

"Another explanation for the incredibly long delay in the release of any details of the results of the autopsy of Sylvie Fink, performed two weeks after her death, would be that the results were inconsistent with the "2-drop"dose of MMS being a significant contributing factor to her unfortunate death.

"Perhaps some defender of the truth or value of FDA's Warning on MMS' "danger" (which, eerily, is the criterion under which FDA can now "recall" any product it makes that "regulatory finding" for), may disagree, but one explanation for Vanuatu authorities not being forthcoming with the results is that someone, possibly someone connected to the emerging Global Food and Drug Regime (see S.510/H.R.2751), had taken an interest in using the case as a testimony against the safety of sodium chlorite/chlorine dioxide when taken internally.

"Doug Nash saw the autopsy report - 'Nash provided his review of the autopsy report to the Vanuatu Police on March 10, 2010,' (from an article in the Vanuatu Daily Post, now removed from their site). He has since been publishing claims on the internet prominently, and yet hadn't presented any evidence that points to the responsibility of the small dose of MMS that Silvie took for the cause of her death.

"Even now, the results aren't complete and the circumstances surrounding the autopsy are not clear. What factors contributed to changes in the chemical results due to the delay in performing the autopsy or to the handling of the body?"

Ominously, in my mind, Skane's article concludes with this statement: "The only way to stop this is for MMS to be banned worldwide until its promoters come up with substantiated proof that it is not a deadly chemical disguised as a ‘medicine’."

This seems to conform to my observation that the use of chlorine dioxide is on trial before the general public in the controlled mindspace of the corporate main-stream media, with an eye to the eventual regulatory, undemocratic, unscientific and tyrannical supression of its obvious (to some of us, the "cult" I guess) benefits in supporting human wellness.
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Re: Bruce's comment on Autopsy articles to "Thought for Food" blog 21 Jan 2011 11:21 #279

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Thanks Bruce for posting this here. :)
I saw it first on Phoelosophers blog, but I have problems reading the small, white letters written on the black background there. :(
I tried to find the coroners report online, but can only find referances to what is in there. I guess those refarances are written in the same misleading way than anything else about the truth they don't want us to know.:unsure:
I alsoguess that we are expected to believe what they say without prove, unlike MMS, there we have to supply the prove for our experiences.:ohmy:
I noticed in duo process why I have so many visitors to my blog...hi...hi...;)

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This is a reply I sent to a query from user on this forum:

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Another slightly more sensitive issue I'm trying to look at is related to the unfortunate death where the establishment is implicating MMS1 as the cause. The one where the lady died and it was like 9 months or something for her autopsy.

What was the name of the pre-existing condition she had and where can I read up about that?
It was like 'heme'-something. I thought I read a write up by Jim Humble but I don't have it saved anywhere.

Any info would help. Thanks,

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I think what you're referring to is Methemoglobin, which is version of a protein carried in the red blood cells to carry oxygen. In it, the iron ion is in a ferric (+3) state, unlike the iron ion in the ferrous (+) state in normal hemoglobin. Hemoglobin can carry oxygen in the blood, unlike methemoglobin.

When Sylvia Fink was autopsied 2 weeks after her death, her blood had a methemoglobin level of 45%. This is not supposed to be a fatal level (from Wikipedia: "30-50% metHb - Fatigue, confusion, dizziness, tachypnea, palpitations"). Death occurs at "Greater than 70% metHb."

I posted an article on the autopsy, as reported elsewhere, in this thread here: genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=31&id=276&Itemid=66 - What I wrote is the third post, The first two are articles from the web that promote the idea that MMS1 was the cause of Sylvia's death.

Methemoglobin is transformed into hemoglobin by the enzyme Methemoglobin Reductase. In most people, methemoglobin is 1% to 2% of the hemoproteins in the red cells of a normal person. If Sylvia Fink's methemoglobin level was at 45% when she died, what may have contributed to that?

According to my calculations, the MAXIMUM amount of chlorine dioxide that the "2-drop" dose of MMS that Sylvia Fink is supposed to have taken, under (impossible) ideal circumstances in which all of the potential ClO2 was liberated at once from the sodium chlorite and immediately transferred into her bloodstream, without reacting to anything in her digestive tract, blood, or tissues, would be about 3.6 ppm of her blood by weight (assuming a blood supply of 5 liters), a total of 18 mg of ClO2. How such a small amount of a chemical that is instantly neutralized when it performs any oxidation, can have transformed 45% of her hemoglobin into methemoglobin seems to me inexplicable.

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Thank you Bruce for your enlightenment.

It was of no use for the FDA or any other concern parties to discredit MMS in this way or other....

They cannot simply lie thing over the internet cos many people will try it one way or other to know if the MMS is really a toxic stuff. We should guide the internet reader to test the toxicity of MMS before one had enough confident to give it a try.

Frankly, my friend who had Cancer stage 1 after chemo feeling weak for 4yrs who was save by MMS and now become active most of the time had even try it on her hamster with 4 drops of mms1 until today, about two months already... the old hamster is still alive and more energetics but will go sleep for awhile after taking mms1. has not shown any side effect at all. Now her hamster is actually live over the normal life expectancy for hamster.

I am highly suggest anyone who is lack of confident to try use it on any small size animal to see if they encounter side effect or become more healthier than normal. If hamster cannot die on the 4 drops mms1, how can human adults like us can die with 2 drops of mms1, it is certainly cause by other existing diseases or ailments.

Since the report said that her death is cause by methemoglobin. I would certainly support the idea of checking the blood of a person who is age above 50yrs old or already had diagnosed diseases blood to see if they had methemoglobin symptoms in the blood. This can be know or predicted by seeing its blood color... whenever there is slight brown red in blood color, i would suggest that person to go for high antioxidant therapy until that person blood color is improving. once the blood is showing a healthy color, then we can start the MMS treatments.

This is best caution we can use it rather than simply reject MMS for no reason and to waste the opportunity to heal ourselves and our future love ones. Best medicine must also be use in the right way. Wrongly used will certainly bring no benefits even the safest cure available.
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Re: Fink autopsy results made public as dangerous MMS promoted as cure... 26 Jan 2011 13:05 #308

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These was a chart to see a person blood of which contains Methemoglobinemia. The safest level would be to obtained a blood sample matching the No:4 blood sample.
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Re: Fink autopsy results made public as dangerous MMS promoted as cure... 15 May 2011 19:46 #2575

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What I don't understand is how two drops of MMS could kill someone?
Isn't' there more chlorine dioxide in tap water than that?
Or am I missing something here?

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