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06 Feb 2014 19:00 #39633 by pam
Just as an aside, in his book, Jim speaks of using 70% DMSO. In the Morton Walker book, he speaks of the problem with irritationi 'when you get above the waist' - so he recommends 70% above the waist and when you get to the neck, 50%
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06 Feb 2014 19:16 #39639 by revdora
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Stay with it. I too had problems with feeling sick at the higher doses. I started a couple of weeks ago and scaled back to a half a drop and now I am back at 8 drops. I'll see how that goes but it's way better. I definitely feel better already. I expect some adjustments along the way. Steady and slow is the way to go!
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06 Feb 2014 19:39 #39644 by JB13
As Pam said:

Just as an aside, in his book, Jim speaks of using 70% DMSO. In the Morton Walker book, he speaks of the problem with irritationi 'when you get above the waist' - so he recommends 70% above the waist and when you get to the neck, 50%.


70% and 50% refers to the dilution with water of the DMSO, not the purity which should be 99% or higher.

Can get confusing, those percentage numbers!
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10 Feb 2014 00:12 #39777 by Mystic Love
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:) Today is 1 month since I started the MMS solution and 2 weeks since I added the DMSO to the solution. I no longer have severe lower back pain, its mild and it feels as if its in different parts of my back. I still have whitish discharge, I notice the bridge of my nose was hurting, it looks a little whitish where the pain is with about a few little white bumps. I'm assuming that is my breakout that I've been looking for since I first started the solution. I tried going 5 drops yesterday but that made me have diarrhea and nausea, so I guess 4 drops has to be my limit for right now.

I will continue.

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10 Feb 2014 12:46 - 10 Feb 2014 12:51 #39795 by Truthquester
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If you ever get tired of feeling sick and tired AND having diarrhea, you might want to try CDH like so many others have, including Jim Humble and Kerri Rivera.

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- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

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- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops
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10 Feb 2014 13:42 #39804 by pam
We always tell people to stay below their herx dose - so if you find that at 5 drops you have a herx reaction, stop for that day, the next say start again at the last doseage where you did not have a reaction - and then stay there a couple of days before you increase another drop.

I have known of people having negative reactions with CDH - you just have to work with all the products and find which works best for you.

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10 Feb 2014 15:13 - 10 Feb 2014 15:53 #39808 by Truthquester
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Hi Mystic Love,

The herx that Pam is referring to may actually be a true herx or it may be that your body doesn't tolerate the sodium chlorite which hasn't been fully activated in the traditional MMS method too well. Intolerance to raw unactivated sodium chlorite can feel like a herx reaction.

Those of us who used to try to get to 15 drops of MMS activated with lemon juice twice a day pretty much all had "herx reactions", especially those of us who may have been low on HCl within our stomachs. For some reason though, when Protocol 1000 came and we were spreading our doses out over an 8 hour day, which is supposed to be more effective at killing the pathogens within our bodies, the "herx" became less. So were we actually experiencing "herx" reactions or were we getting too much unactivated MMS into our stomachs all at once and that's what was making us have nausea and diarrhea?

Then when CDS came out, "herx" reactions were reduced even more. Why? I think it was because the CDS doesn't have ANY unactivated MMS in it at all.

Now there is CDH which Jim Humble recently introduced and has stated that for many, it is easier on the stomach than traditional MMS. Kerri Rivera has basically said the same thing in her book. Here's what Kerri says in her new book: (note that when Kerri writes "CD" it's the same as MMS)

Many families have also reported that they were able to increase their
child’s dose without producing a Herxheimer reaction, in contrast to classic
CD. Older children and severely affected children have benefitted as well
from the CDH preparation; you can read more about that on page 221.
Currently, this new method is being used by a relatively small group of families
(around 70 as of November, 2013). Many of them are reporting that CDH
continues to produce results for their children on the spectrum, and they are
seeing even better things than before.


CDH is about 5 times more activated per drop than MMS activated the traditional way and so therefore has about 5 times more available CLO2 per drop than traditional MMS. CLO2 is what has always been considered to be what does the pathogen killing in the body. Since CDH has 5 times the CLO2 as traditional MMS it should be creating more "herx" reactions than traditional MMS does because it should be killing more in the body - but the "herx" reactions are less - not more.

So what's going on? The only thing that makes sense is that what is causing the "herx" reactions in many cases is not the large amount of pathogens being killed and the inability to eliminate them quick enough, but that people are intolerant of unactivated sodium chlorite. The higher the dose, the more you get and the more nauseated you feel.

I have known of a lot more people having negative reactions with MMS than with CDH. I was a part of the same forum that Pam was, where we both saw mothers increasing the doses of their children from 2 to 3 times that of MMS activated in the traditional way. One of the things that the moms were so happy about with CDH was that it reduced the nausea in their children. They were trying to increase the dose using MMS in the traditional way to a certain level and their children were becoming nauseated and throwing up. With CDH though, almost all of them were able to increase and reach their target dose, and many were able to double and triple their children's dosages without having any nausea.

By the way, many of them were dosing at about 100ml a day and using CDH in enemas and colonics too. That's 100 drops of pre-activated MMS in the CDH a day! Like 10 drops an hour, 10 hours a day! (Every ml of CDH contains 1 pre-activated drop of MMS)

There were a few, a very small percentage that may have had problems with CDH, but it's possible that those children may have been having true herx reactions because like I said, CDH is almost 5 times more potent than traditional MMS.

I hope that clears things up a bit about the nausea that you and so many other people may be feeling. It may not be a herx reaction at all.

May you be well,
Scott

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- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

- Join our group on MiWi (was deleted off of Facebook): mewe.com/join/coronavirusebolasolutions
- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops
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10 Feb 2014 19:27 - 10 Feb 2014 19:27 #39822 by JB13
Scott said:

Intolerance to raw unactivated sodium chlorite can feel like a herx reaction.


Scott, I agree with you 100% !!! :sick:

Thanks for saying this and now perhaps more people will try CDH.

When you think about it, CDH is MMS activated for a longer period of time.
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10 Feb 2014 19:45 - 10 Feb 2014 19:55 #39825 by Rev Ray
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JB13 wrote: Scott said:


When you think about it, CDH is MMS activated for a longer period of time.


and fully contained so ClO2 does not escape.

I found Scott's post this morning one of the most informative posts since I have been back.
Thank you Scott (and JB) for making things clear for us.
Now I have to try drops of MMSU just to experience it....to compare nausea between CA HCl and MMSU

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I was treating a paraplegic a few years ago who either misunderstood or refused my direction/s and took MMS drops unactivated.
I do not recall any experiences of nausea, she was very ill otherwise.
I believe MMS I gave her or she did unactivated did help her.

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11 Feb 2014 02:06 #39850 by Mystic Love
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Truthquester,

I will not attempt to mix this product, where can I buy CDH? I think I will try this as well. Do I add the DMSO with this product as well?

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