Welcome, Guest
Username: Password: Remember me
Welcome to MMS Forum!

We encourage new members to post a short introduction of themselves in this forum category. Get to know your fellow board members and their interests and skills. Please come and participate in educating people about the healing miracle that is MMS, and join the movement to make it available to the World!
  • Page:
  • 1

TOPIC:

Shipping Liquid Sodium Chlorite 28% with 50:50 Citric acid solutions. 04 Oct 2011 03:52 #5936

  • Steven
  • Steven's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Posts: 9
  • Thank you received: 3
Hello, I recieved a package in the mail after ordering MMS and recieved a few kits. 4 oz each of
liquid Sodium Chlorite and liquid Citric acid in separate bottles. I gave a kit to a friend and after learning about it she instinctively placed one bottle in purse and the other in her grocery bag. I inquired why?
Well she just said what if the two bottle combined together all at one time? I know a chemical reaction takes place and shuddered to think of that many drops of MMS combined together any where. This could possibly damage property of potentially injure someone present.
she was biking home, but what about public transit?
So I am curious why any company would ship both in Liquid form through the mail.
This issue of say bringing MMS into a public building in liquid kit form may be construed as a
health hazard. Are there laws prohibiting the shipping by mail of an easy to combine liquid kit, due to the potential danger. I will not bring both bottles, say to my daughters school teacher and only gift any one with the Sodium Chlorite and say to use 4 drops of Lime juice or find citric acid @ your bulk or health store make a 50:50 solution with distilled water to activate into Chlorine dioxide.
I am being very cautious in this matter. The shipping of both liquids could be a potential issue for the Fda in trying to suppress the use of Master Mineral solution. I suggest only powdered citric acid be shipped, although what happens with powdered citric acid mixed with
Sodium Chlorite drops 28%? I noticed the site does have kits with the powdered citric acid, this seems to be safer and less hassle for every one.
Please if any one has info. about this issue, actually write a response!
There seems to be many lookers @ this forum and want readers to write in and post if they have something intelligent and helpful to say.
Thank You

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Re: Shipping Liquid Sodium Chlorite 28% with 50:50 Citric acid solutions. 06 Oct 2011 01:25 #6009

  • Bill
  • Bill's Avatar
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
:( Very good point -- all we need is an incident and there goes all the sites that ship the two products together. This would be a BIG step backwards and the media backlash would be huge!

I urge all sellers of MMS to immediately stop shipping both products together in the same box. I hope Jim gets word of this and states what I have stated here.

Storing at home -- I never considered this potential problem either and I will make changes right away!

Transporting these two products -- I will always keep them seperate from now on. WE DON'T NEED AN INCIDENT FOLKS!

The products that I sell ship the acid in powder form for this reason. Also a 50% solution may be to high -- maybe 20% or 30% at most.

Go to: www.themastermineralsolution.ca to purchase products -- you can even sell these products through the affliate program that pays the highest I have seen.

Good Health!

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Re: Shipping Liquid Sodium Chlorite 28% with 50:50 Citric acid solutions. 06 Oct 2011 06:44 #6022

  • Steven
  • Steven's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Posts: 9
  • Thank you received: 3
Hi Bill, Nice to hear some Common Sense on this forum.
Wish there was more
The shipping of the Sodium Chlorite with Citric acid could cause and incident
where as the media would have a field day. I think this method of shipping is a bit of a
disinformation plant by TPB and is jepardizing many peoples good work with Jim Humbles Technology.
LIMES AND CITRIC ACID ARE AVAILABLE AT MOST GROCERY STORES.....
NO NEED TO SEND ACTIVATOR @ ALL.

WHY IS THE WARNING NOT MORE PROMINENT ON THIS SITE????????

Be well

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Re: Shipping Liquid Sodium Chlorite 28% with 50:50 Citric acid solutions. 06 Oct 2011 11:37 #6038

  • ZnzMagic
  • ZnzMagic's Avatar
  • Visitor
  • Visitor
Was always using limes and lemons, have started using citric acid though for a change in taste and for a quicker stronger activation it seems, citric acid in powered form is available in most corner stores out here, call it powered lime and is used in dishes even as a replacement for salt.

Please also see similar thread - WARNING: DO NOT SHIP SODIUM CHLORITE WITH CITRIC ACID !!!!!!!!

Thanks

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Re: Shipping Liquid Sodium Chlorite 28% with 50:50 Citric acid solutions. 06 Oct 2011 15:12 #6045

  • Steven
  • Steven's Avatar Topic Author
  • Offline
  • New Member
  • New Member
  • Posts: 9
  • Thank you received: 3
Hey All, we have to work this out, concerning the safe shipping of Sodium Chlorite.

What happens if 28% S.C. is mixed directly with powdered Citric acid in shipment,
does a reaction still occur?

I have not tested this as am scared of a strong or even stronger reaction.
If I experiment @ all it will be with Very very small amounts, Outside with fresh air ventalation and will be wearing all manner of saftey protection, respirator any one???????

Plse accept only the sodium Chlorite with out any activator as it is easy to find Limes,
and fresh lime juice is good for you........

Any experienced chemistry professionals or experienced student of Chemistry have some intelligent input.

This issue could Make or severly harm the distribution of Jim HUmbles new discovery.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Re: Shipping Liquid Sodium Chlorite 28% with 50:50 Citric acid solutions. 06 Oct 2011 16:14 #6048

  • brtanner
  • brtanner's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Accept the present moment fully...
  • Posts: 505
  • Thank you received: 702
I think this conversation may be getting A LITTLE overheated.

Tens of thousands of MMS1 kits have been shipped all over the world to date, without one headline on a tragic shipping disaster having appeared.

Personally, if I were shipping a kit, I would put the MMS and the citric acid in separate, sealed zip-locks.

David's idea of shipping dry bottles with measured sodium chlorite and citric acid in them is good, but, sadly, many people would find it emotionally difficult and confusing to have to deal with finding distilled water and filling the bottles. I guess that would be one step on the road to health freedom... :side:

and BTW, the use of the 50% citric acid solution for activation has made MMS1 much easier to access for many people, with the 1 to 1 drop ratio and the shorter activation time. When things are harder, people often let them slide.

Bruce
The following user(s) said Thank You: pam

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by brtanner.

Re: Shipping Liquid Sodium Chlorite 28% with 50:50 Citric acid solutions. 06 Oct 2011 16:43 #6052

  • Michael Harrah
  • Michael Harrah's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Member
  • Platinum Member
  • Posts: 1209
  • Thank you received: 1554
Thanks for stepping in Bruce. The fact is MMS and activator is being shipped together all the time.

There are market forces at work here that cannot be ignored. This is why there was a conversion to 50% citric acid; people want quicker activation and if you give them a choice they will buy 50% even though that causes additional problems. Bruce is right that many people will be afraid of adding the water. They want a finished product that is ready to use. Most people will not pay the additional shipping cost of 2 separate boxes for the products. Someone will supply these people with what they want. That is how our system works.

We take risks every day of our lives and we calculate the costs and benefits. Every time you step into your car or onto the street you are risking your life. But most think it is worth it.

I have it from a source who would know, that in fact one package containing MMS and activator did get damaged by a machine in a postal facility so that the contents mixed and produced the chlorine dioxide. The facility was evacuated but no one got hurt. The postal service was quite upset and tracked down the sender and told them to cease doing that. But there was no prosecution. I would imagine this has happened more than once but this is the only incident I have information about.

We want to be as careful as we can and educate people, but also take into account practical realities.

just my opinion,

Michael
The following user(s) said Thank You: Peter Mican

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by Michael Harrah.

Re: Shipping Liquid Sodium Chlorite 28% with 50:50 Citric acid solutions. 21 Nov 2011 14:59 #8355

  • pam
  • pam's Avatar
  • Offline
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Platinum Boarder
  • Posts: 4593
  • Thank you received: 3702
My initial kit was the 2 bottles, one with MMS already prepared, inactivated. And the second was empty. The kit included a small package of citric acid in a baggie, labeled. As I recall, the MMS filled bottle was in a separate baggie (it may have had scotch tape over the lid, I can't remember), and the whole thing was wrapped in bubble wrap so the parts didn't bounce in the box.

No big deal. Personally, I can't see any reason to ship the citric acid made up - but that's because the idea of taking x amount of distilled water and heating it to dissolve the citric acid in (the distributor does all the work determining the correct amount of citric acid to put in the baggie and then tells the purchaser how much distilled water to mix with the citric acid), then pouring it into the bottle seems to be a no-brainer. Also, you're not shipping the water weight.

Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation.

Last edit: by pam. Reason: added a word.
  • Page:
  • 1