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Introducing myself :) 10 Jun 2023 19:12 #78931

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Hello, fellow travelers,

My name is Kayla and I'm on my 5th day of MMS - intending to treat a host of complex symptoms that are probably best described by those mysterious symptom clusters known as MME/ /CFS/Fibromyalgia.. My blood work shows active viral loads (I think?) - EBV, coxsackie, parvo, HHV, sometimes Lyme, etc, as well as mold exposure, dangerous levels of glyphosate and a few other environmental toxins.

I have always been robustly healthy, but my health took a sharp downturn after traveling for a year in Central America and being exposed to parasites and possibly a tick bite, which was then compounded by experiencing a series of traumatic events resulting in about a decade of crippling anxiety.

I'm very happy to be here in a healing community, and grateful for any input and advice others might be inclined to share with me!

Thanks so much, and I wish everyone a speedy recovery from whatever has brought you here!
 

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Introducing myself :) 11 Jun 2023 14:56 #78948

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Don't forget to look at Jim Humble's "MMS Health Recovery Guidebook" and
his Mold/Fungus Protocol and do that FIRST.

Because there are apparently some Molds/Fungi that MMS/CDS/CD can't deal with
and will cause them to not work well or work at all.
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Introducing myself :) 12 Jun 2023 13:42 #78961

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Welcome and I hope you see great improvements!  I am constantly amazed at what CDS has done for me and my boyfriend in the past couple months.  We will be taking it for life (as long as we can still get it).

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Introducing myself :) 13 Jun 2023 02:25 #78969

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I agree - that's a good idea. I'm going ahead with the Mold Protocol now. Thanks for suggesting it.

By the way - I saw this in Jim Humble's book, on the bottom of page 303:

"Note: I suggest using glass or good quality plastic water
bowls for your animals if putting MMS in their drinking
water. On the other hand, if you activate MMS first in a
glass or plastic container making it MMS1 and add water,
then after it is activated and mixed with water it is OK to
put in metal containers that are often used for animals. Do
not mix up unactivated MMS (sodium chlorite) and activator
directly in a metal bowl or metal cup. First activate
and add water in a glass or plastic cup, then put it in
the bowl."

Does this mean that it's OK to brush my teeth (I have a gold crown) with activated MMS?

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Thank you so much, Calynn! I'd love to hear more about your successes if you feel like sharing :) Either way, I appreciate your warm greeting!

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Introducing myself :) 13 Jun 2023 05:45 #78974

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I thought I replied that it is probably okay to have gold fillings and brushing your teeth with MMS/CDS/CD.
Probably fillings of any type. I don't think JH mentioned fillings, so I would then (maybe) assume that they are okay,
otherwise there would have been a caution. (more likely than not?)
 
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Introducing myself :) 16 Jun 2023 02:31 #79007

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BillPopMMS,

So, I am on the 4th day of the mold protocol (as per your suggestion - thanks!) - I'm using Pascalite clay with Pelligrino carbonated mineral water. I still don't "feel" anything - no herx, no nothing. Today I'm integrating 8 drops MMS1 every other hour (clay/pelligrino in between). Not taking any supplements, and eating very little (just some chicken, or fish, and some baked potato a few hours after working out). I have a cup of coffee with cream in the morning, two hours before starting protocol.

Can you think of any reason why I'm not feeling anything - good or bad?

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Introducing myself :) 22 Jun 2023 10:29 #79097

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8 drops is A LOT so fast.
I'm surprised you're not Herxing.

Although, if a Mold or Fungus is stopping the ClO2 from working that would make sense.
So that immediately makes me go, "Hmm....". And question what is going on.
WHY aren't you Herxing with 8 drops so fast?
"Everyone's Different", so it COULD be that.

You need to be careful. If the Mold/Fungus Protocol works, and the ClO2 'suddenly starts working',
you could severely Herx. (if that's what's going on)
I usually drop down to 1 to 3 drops (from 5) when I realize that it has stopped working again and
I need to do the Mold/Fungus Protocol, just to be "safe".

JH suggests you stop where you're at (whatever protocol), although that doesn't sound like
a good idea to me, because of the scenario I described above. (?)
Maybe the potential Mold/Fungus issue isn't so severe as I think it could be.

I suppose Pascalite Clay is okay. It's supposed to be a Calcium Bentonite | Montmorillonite Clay.
So I assume it is working. I've only used the clay I get from my source, which I know works.
If your source is cheating and not using the correct clay, that would be a problem.

I wouldn't use S.Pellegrino. It is a mineral water, which means it has a lot of who knows what
kind of minerals in it. I suppose if you put some MMS/CDS in it and test it with ClO2 Test Strips
and it tests okay, then it should be okay. I use pure Seltzer Water from a can.
Although, if you are ONLY taking clay without the MMS, it's should be fine. (early protocol)

And I wouldn't use it if I was taking DMSO. I don't take a chance on anything mixing with the
ClO2 and causing some kind of a chemical reaction, or having something that might be in it
shooting throughout my body with the DMSO, although there could be similar concerns with
what's in the Clay. (?) I've never read anyone saying, "It's not a problem", although I suppose
JH is implying that. (?)

I just like to be as careful as possible.

That's the reason we are supposed to ideally use STEAM Distilled Water is because it is
completely "clean" and non-reactive. (and I think 'pure' Seltzer Water similarly)

Anyway, maybe you have a SEVERE Mold/Fungus issue?
(I think BioFilm could be an issue, as well)
And it will take some time to clear that before you will see results from ClO2?
I suppose that's possible.

I can't think of anything else you could do other than follow the protocols as per JH
and hopefully they will kick in at some point.

It sounds like you are eating and drinking well, so that shouldn't be negatively affecting
the ClO2. (chocolate, caffeine, alcohol, citrus, etc. -- I'm not sure what "food/drink"
that is high in antioxidants would maybe cause an issue --- JH mentions that, or
maybe only as a "supplements", I forget, but doesn't list actual foods (that I remember),
or any real levels other than the "high in" descriptor)

Before you go to 8 drops, I think you should have gone to Protocol 1000+ with DMSO.
This should pretty much be done at about 3 (to 5?) drops.
Again, Low and Slow with the DMSO drops, and see if that makes a difference.
And then increase the ClO2 drops after you've done 1000+ for probably at least
a week or two or so.

It's a definite vexing quandary.

Maybe someone else will notice something or have an idea.

Other than that, just keep on and see what happens.

(have you been COVID-19 Vaccinated? I've been wondering lately if that
is maybe interfering with the ClO2 from working, but I haven't seen anything
where people are definitively saying one way or another --- and even then
I have to take it with a grain of salt from most people, unfortunately ---
plus it's anecdotal, and are there any good sources of reliable info, etc.....)

Let us know if something changes or you figure something out.
 
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BillPop, thanks for all your input here, and for thinking it through with me out loud. It's really helpful and I really appreciate it.

Agree that the mold might be worse than I thought, and that I should start there. Also agree that dropping back down the 3 drops (+DMSO) seems prudent, since that's what JH recommends for everyone now anyways.

I'm inclined to keep painting my spine with DMSO and Lugol's iodine to keep the HSV from getting too comfortable.

For the record: I'm not COVID-vaccinated and haven't received any vaccinations since 2008.

When I figure things out, I will definitely keep y'all posted.

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