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Mold clay protocol and bipolar 24 Sep 2022 01:02 #76875

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Hello warriors!

31 year old male battling Lyme, chronic fatigue, bipolar, TBI… wanted to introduce myself and share my results so far.

I had used MMS maybe 10 years ago but didn’t stick with it due to lack of consistent discipline and mental issues… but here I am back at it.

my theory is that most diseases are mitochondrial dysfunction based on metabolic disorders from inconsistent blood sugar levels which stems from all the infections, pathogens and viruses which seem to disrupt blood sugar especially when the infection is in the pancreas…. So it makes sense that MMS “cures” so many diseases… it killing the microorganisms that disrupt consistent blood sugar levels…

after two weeks of consistent protocol 1000+ nearly all of my mental instability has disappeared and pain in my body is gone, years of scars and cysts on my back is gone… biggest issue is the SEVERE fatigue but I take this as a good sign of healing and detox which I know takes a lot of energy.

Ive been reading a lot in the forums that having a mold infection in the gut can slow or completely halt results… can anyone please share the mold bentonite protocol with me? And will removing the mold help with some of the fatigue?

I don’t have the book right now and am broke.

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Mold clay protocol and bipolar 24 Sep 2022 23:08 #76881

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I'm new to MMS myself so hopefully you get some answers to your questions from experienced users, but I found this mold info from Jim's book. I hope it helps you. God bless.

The clay I recommend to use for this protocol has several names: Aztec clay, bentonite clay (calcium bentonite is preferred, or montmorillonite clay (from France).
Instructions for Internal Use of Clay
If you have not been on an MMS protocol, do the Starting Procedure (page 79) first, before beginning this Mold/Fungus Protocol. After completing the Starting Pro- cedure in four days, go right into this protocol on the fifth day. If you are already on an MMS protocol and determine you need to stop for some days to do the Mold/Fungus Protocol, when adding clay into your MMS routine—for a short period of time—while doing Steps 1 and 2 of this protocol, discontinue taking your MMS doses as per whatever protocol you may be doing at the time (Proto- cols 1000, 1000 Plus, 2000 or 3000).
Step 1
q On day one of taking clay, take 5 doses of clay, each dose two hours apart.
q Clay dose 1 and 2: Add 1/2 level teaspoon (2.5 ml) of clay in 1/2 cup (4 ounces/120 ml) of water. It is best
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to continue stirring the water as you sprinkle the clay into the water. Drink it down. It is OK to drink slowly but keep it stirred.
q Clay doses 3, 4, and 5: Add 1 level teaspoon (5 ml) of clay in 1/2 cup (4 ounces/120 ml) of water. Stir as mentioned above until it is thoroughly mixed with the water. Drink it down. It is OK to drink slowly but keep it stirred since clay will quickly settle back down to the bottom of the glass.
Step 2
q If after the first day of taking the clay you are feeling OK and experience no extra sick feeling (no sicker than you were already feeling with your sickness) after 5 doses of clay, proceed to Step 3 below on day two. However, if it seems like you are feeling a little bit worse than normal, continue drinking the clay doses described in Step 1 above, for one more day, taking a clay dose every two hours until you have taken 5 doses, then proceed to Step 3 on the third day.
Step 3
q Alternate the clay drink described in Step 1 above with whatever your MMS1 dosage was before starting the clay. (The first hour take an MMS1 dose, the next hour take a clay dose, the next hour an MMS1 dose, the next hour a clay dose and so on.) For example, if you have begun doing this Mold/Fungus Protocol just after finishing the Starting Procedure, then start with 1-drop doses for this step. If you were on Protocol 1000 taking a 3-drop dose of MMS1 every hour, alternate that dosage with your clay dose. Or, if you were on Protocol 2000 taking a 5-drop dose of MMS1 every hour, alternate that dosage with your clay dose. Alternate

Chapter 6 – The Key Protocols 103 each hour for eight hours. This would be 4 doses of
MMS1 and 4 doses of clay each day.
q Do the alternating doses for two days. If you are on this step and you are seeing improvement, keep it up (as long as there is improvement of some kind) until you are completely well. But, if you reach a point where you go several days without any type of improvement go to Step 4 below.
Additional Important Information for Step 3
Ü If you were on Protocol 1000 Plus and adding DMSO to your MMS1 doses at the time you started taking clay, you can also continue adding DMSO to your MMS1 doses while doing Step 3 above.
Ü If you were on Protocol 2000, however, do not continue with MMS2 during the time you are taking clay and MMS1 as per Step 3 above—simply continue with the amount of MMS1 you were taking at the time you started the clay, be it 5-drop doses, 7-drop doses, etc.
Step 4
In this step you will take the clay and MMS1 in the same dose. When mixing clay in an MMS1 dose, I suggest using fizzy mineral water (carbonated water). This is because the carbonation in fizzy mineral water tends to protect and preserve MMS1 as it is mixed with the clay. The clay tends to minimize the strength of MMS1 over time, but by mixing it with fizzy water, it will not minimize it as quickly.
To further explain why taking clay mixed with MMS1 may be beneficial: Mold almost always suppresses your im- mune system thus allowing other pathogens to take hold. I believe in this case, the other pathogens may not be overcome by MMS1 because when mold is present it

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provides a certain amount of “protection” for them. Thus if we eradicate the mold with clay, as the other pathogens lose their “mold protection” MMS1 is then able to destroy them as well.
q In a clean dry glass activate your MMS drops, using the same amount of drops you were taking in Step 3.
q Immediately add 2 ounces/60 ml of fizzy mineral water (carbonated water), followed by 1 level teaspoon of clay. I find it helps to “sprinkle” the clay into the glass while stirring the liquid. It will foam up a bit, don't let that startle you, just be sure to have a big enough glass so it does not overflow.
q Once the clay is sprinkled in and completely mixed then you can add another 2 ounces/60 ml of the carbonated water.
q Drink this dose slowly if possible, over a period of five minutes.
q Do this every hour, for a total of eight hours for at least one day.
Notes
Ü The clay tends to mask the taste of MMS1, however, if taste is still an issue for you, you can use a soft drink such as Pepsi, Coke, Sprite, etc., as per the guidelines on pages 42-45 in this book. (Do not use orange soda.) My prefer- ence if possible, is the fizzy mineral water, as it does not contain sugar.
Ü You can make this same drink with purified bottled water that has no carbonation, it will still help, but it will not be as potent as when done with carbonated water or soda.

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Step 5
q If Step 4 is making you feel better and you feel you are improving, continue more days as long as you are improving, but once you stop improving, (or if you feel you are well) stop taking the MMS1/clay doses. If you have an internal mold/fungus problem, the clay added to your protocol should help knock it out. Normally it is not needed to continue this step for a prolonged period of time, usually a few days does it, but be sure to continue for as long as you see improvement.
Notes
Ü If you are living or working in a location with a lot of mold, you should continue taking the clay at least with a maintenance dose of 6 drops of MMS1 and 1/2 level teaspoon of clay until you have eradicated the mold prob- lem in your home or workplace.
Ü Once you are well you can then continue with daily MMS1 maintenance doses (see page 200). On the other hand, if you have stopped seeing improvement and thus stopped the MMS1/clay doses but you still feel sick, it may be a good idea to go back to whatever protocol you were on, (taking the amount of MMS1 and/or MMS2 you were taking before adding the clay), for another period of time. This would be to further clean out any pathogens or toxins that the clay helped to trap that still need to be flushed out of the body, or those the mold/fungus may have been “protecting”. It may be that there are some remnants of poisons and pathogens that are still present even though the mold is gone, thus one should continue with the former protocol until you are sure you are well.
Ü If you are experiencing mucous in the throat and/or coughing, I suggest you drink your clay doses slowly over a couple minutes, giving the clay time to work in the

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mouth, throat and esophagus as it goes down. It’s also a good idea to swish it around in the mouth a few times before swallowing.
Ü When taking clay internally, be sure your bowels are moving so you can eliminate the toxins which the clay is pulling out. In the case of constipation, I have found the herb, Senna, to be one of the best solutions. It is natural and it exercises the colon. Senna can be found in tablet form (sold as a laxative) in health food stores and in some countries in pharmacies. Start out with the recommended dose and increase the number of tablets every four hours until you have success.
Ü We have explained above that if MMS1 or MMS2 seem to not be helping an illness, it may be due to mold/fungus. There are however, other reasons why one may not be having success with MMS, please review Chapter 8).
Mold/Fungus External Procedure
There are many types of fungus that can manifest exter- nally on the body. As mentioned earlier, one indicator that MMS1 will not be helpful occurs when MMS1 is sprayed on or otherwise applied to the fungus. It will become painful and start to sting and burn badly. In this case, the MMS1 will actually make the condition worse, and it’s best to try another course of action, such as given below.
Instructions for Mold/Fungus External Procedure
Step 1
q Mix well equal parts of clay with Vaseline Petroleum Jelly. Alternatives to Petroleum Jelly are coconut oil, olive oil, or another good quality carrier oil. Make the mixture fairly stiff so that it will adhere well to the fungus area.

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Step 2
q Smear this salve on the fungus and cover with a gauze bandage.
q If the fungus is on your feet, smear the clay mixture on the feet, put on clean socks and put your shoes on if needed.
Step 3
q Every four hours, wash the area and then apply more of the mixture until the fungus is gone.
Notes
Ü Depending on how sensitive the area of skin is, it can be painful to wash off a Vaseline mixture. We have found the Vaseline with the clay mixed in tends to soak into skin after some hours. Use a very mild soap, if possible one made with natural ingredients (those free of perfumes are best, as perfume can tend to irritate tender and damaged skin) and warm water. Pour the water slowly over the area and massage it very gently with your hand. Gently pat dry with a clean towel or gauze pad.
Ü There are various brands of Petroleum Jelly on the market. I recommend the “Vaseline” brand (the original, which is triple-purified to be 100% pure) for mixing with clay to make a salve. Vaseline has the unique ability to wet and penetrate and remain in place on the skin for hours longer than most oils. Sometimes coconut oil, olive oil and other oils can be used to carry various medicinal substances to the skin and hold them there. However, nothing matches the ability of Vaseline to hold healing substances in contact with skin for hours, while at the same time acting as a healing agent itself. Use the various other oils only if you cannot obtain Vaseline.
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Mold clay protocol and bipolar 25 Sep 2022 10:18 #76889

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Glad to hear you are getting some good results.
I just bought a copy of Jim's book for someone and am suddenly not in a
financial position right now to do it again.
But I can send you a copy (downloadable) and then buy a copy later if you are interested.
Contact me at my website, link below.
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Mold clay protocol and bipolar 26 Sep 2022 17:38 #76899

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Thank you to both of you for your replies! Good luck to everyone 

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Mold clay protocol and bipolar 28 Sep 2022 08:21 #76912

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Please come back and let us know about your (expected) successes.
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I will! I have already experienced progress but I think I need to stay on it for the long haul... I have been very sick for a very long time

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I was sick and increasingly sickly for decades and my first attempt
at using MMS basically Restored my Health.

I back slid since then for various reasons and am now trying to get
back to where I was.
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How long were you on it the first time? And why’d you stop?

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I was on MMS(1) for a month or two. I stupidly didn't keep a diary (and still don't).
I still think I will remember stuff even though I don't anymore.
("PTSD" from years of extreme stress ruined my once-near-perfect memory)
I think I'm being Passive Aggressive against myself.

I wrote about this somewhere here, and I do write about it on my website.
I've had increasingly bad health for decades, either undiagnosed, or the
doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong. (I'm pretty sure it was at least in part Lyme's)
"I've tried everything", and I kind of have. But, unfortunately, I never clicked into MMS.
I wish I would have found it sooner.

Then my brother got Late Stage (4) Advanced Metastatic Prostate Cancer, which is
basically a death sentence. They were able to prolong his life for about 18 months
with chemo, which he chose to do because "there was no other choice".
There is no cure. It was only life-extending palliative treatment. And worked for
what it was. But I am very anti-chemo and most "traditional cancer treatments".

So I started doing research for "alternative therapies", hoping to find something.
I was taking care of him, and I was basically too sick to do that. Before that he was
my "Primary Caregiver", so I started getting sicker and sicker faster. Then I got
so sick I had the reaction of, "Fock, I am SO focked" because there was obviously
something VERY wrong with me. I think it was undiagnosed throat cancer, but I don't know.
I'm mostly anti traditional "Western Medicine" and doctors and only go to them if I have to.

So then I started REALLY doing more research for me and him, and finally found MMS.
I studied them "all" -- Hydrogen Peroxide Therapy, Baking Soda Therapy, etc.....
But they ALL worked for some people and not others, or worked really well for
some people, not very well for others, and not at all for others. Which is why
they all have a "quackery" reputation.

EXCEPT MMS. I finally noticed that all of the others had naysayers and negative
reports of efficacy, except MMS. It basically had none. (there were a couple of outliers)
It seemed to "work for all people all the time for everything". (+/-)
That's when I realized MMS was something special.

So I ordered it, tried it, and it worked very well. Basically helping me achieve Health Restoration,
making me feel like I did back in the 1990s or before. I had forgotten what it felt like to
"feel well" and have energy.

Then I tried it on my cat for his FIV (feline HIV) and it worked better than antibiotics.

So then I tried to get my brother to use it, and he kind of half-assed it and resisted it and
refused to really believe in it, and I had to almost force him to take it, and it worked very well
for him, too, but he screwed up by not embracing it and taking it seriously, even though
he saw what it did for me and my/our cat and my sister. Eventually, when he was probably just
a month or two from also achieving Health Restoration, he basically committed suicide by
choosing to not eat, and starved himself to death. He probably would have gotten better
even faster if it wasn't for his attitude, and he probably suffered from the Nocebo Effect,
which causes treatments and drugs and such to not work as well as they normally do.
He would be here now, alive and well, if it wasn't for his extremely negative and highly
self-destructive attitudes and behaviors. Like my Mom before him, he basically wasn't
going to be happy until he was dead. There is A LOT of psychology involved in all of this.

Anyway, so I stopped with the MMS because I thought I was "well". But the mobilehome
I was living in had SEVERE mold issues. So I started getting sick again over several
months. And stupidly didn't do "maintenance". The mold was probably at least part of my
health problems, at least exacerbated them. I finally moved out and got away from the mold,
but have been having problems sticking to use the MMS (more "abnormal psychology")
and am trying to achieve Health Restoration again. I'm finally starting to get there because
I finally got very sick again and it was either do it or really bad stuff was in my future.

During all of this, I also do Acupuncture when I can afford it, which helps me along
and gives the MMS a chance to work without me feeling really bad, and I also went
strict McVegan diet originally, and haven't done that as much this time, which is
probably or definitely a mistake. Dr. McDougall has cured many people of all kinds of illness
with his diet alone. So I try to give it a Double Whammy or Triple Whammy.

Anyway, after having been reminded what it felt like to feel well and have energy
and such, I am getting really sick and tired of being so sick and tired.
So hopefully I will continue on with the MMS and do MMS2, as well, just to make
sure that I am completely clean. Also, I am about 5 years older now, 61, so
that might have a negative affect on how fast I get well, too.
Getting "old" really sucks in too many ways.
 
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