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does any one know if mms1, mms2 or mms 3
will help control this, its a lung infection my elderly mother gets and is now resistent to everything ecept IV meds,
I have tried protical 1000 for 2 weeks and added mms2, 3 times a day but she still ended up in the hospital to get meds,

I was just reading about this here microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Pseudomonas_aeruginosa. This is a bacteria that is everywhere in the environment and is said to be opportunistic meaning that only people who are seriously immune comprimised get infected with it. It is life threatening, so you want to be on Protocol 2000.

That article says this microbe gets into the lungs and creates biofilms that have defenses against antibiotics. I have a problem with mucous forming in my lungs too, had it since birth. MMS1 & 2 both help with this if I can get enough into my body. Nausea is a limiting factor for me, but I have been using the bag method to get a really good dose of mms1 three times a day. I do enemas with mms2 two or three times a day and that helps. An MMS bath is another good way to get mms into the system.

Also the hydrogen peroxide by inhalation (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=38&id=2232&Itemid=66) works better than anything I tried to nebulize. If you do protocol 2000, baths and the peroxide I would think that would do it.

I have no doubt the MMS1 & 2 will kill this microbe, you just need to get enough into her since her immune system is so weak. And then also look for what is causing the mucous in the lungs and how to break it up and get it out using whatever will work.

Here to help, please keep us posted.

Best wishes,

Michael

Hi Bush,

Here is a reply I got from someone, sounds very helpful:

Michael,

Also you might want to try NAC (cysteine) for the sticky lung...........that is what finally cleared mine.

Studies were done with cystic fibrosis.

This along with the MMS protocols.

I believe you can get NAC at health food stores.

Michael

Hi Bush,

Posting below another response I received about your inquiry.

I think this is my first posting, everyone - I've been using MMS1 off and on, but when I got a nasty flu and subsequent lung involvement, it was hard to keep on the protocol because I barely felt well enough to walk across the room, much less eat or do MMS. Your mom is fortunate that you are there to help her. I have never wanted a holistic nurse as badly as I wanted one during those weeks...I lost 20 lbs in 14 days since I was too weak to get much in the way of food into myself.

I agree that a compromised immune system is probably the real culprit in your mother's case. You didn't mention what kind of meds, but I am assuming it involved antibiotics and possibly something to keep her airways open/cut the inflammation? Don't assume that the MMS didn't do anything. It sounds like her immune system was so shot that she needed some extra support. Being sick is your body's way of detoxifying. Your mom was too ill to detoxify successfully, and adding MMS accelerates the detox/sickness symptoms. Maybe it was so busy with OTHER problems in the body that it didn't get to very much of the pseudomonas.

A supplement you might want to look into for recurring pseudomonas aeruginosa is called Hyperimmune Egg. Chickens pass on antibodies to any infection they overcome to their eggs. So a scientist decided to see what would happen if they inoculated chickens with dead vaccines of today's worst bugs (including pseudomonas). Then they take the eggs from these immunized chickens, and dry them at a low temp that will not interfere with the protein structure, grind it to powder, and voila, you have an egg powder that is loaded with antibodies that are specific to many of today's superbugs.

www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientmono-1130-HYPERIMMUNE%20EGG.aspx?activeIngredientId=1130&activeIngredientName=HYPERIMMUNE%20EGG

www.pdr.net/drugpages/productlabeling.aspx?mpcode=44800100

www.hyperimmuneegg.org/

I much prefer recommending solutions that are low-cost and not made by corporations, but this might be really helpful for your mom. Long before I had ever heard of MMS, I got some fire-ant bites on my thumb while gardening. Those bites turned into a nasty crater that would not heal for 3 months (talk about compromised immune system). With the weather 100 degrees and 100 percent humidity most days, I was in the shower every day, and the scab just wouldn't set properly. I discovered hyperimmune egg, and began taking double and triple the recommended amount. Within 48 hours (still showering everyday), the sore had normal looking SKIN on it, and only the faintest, thinnest scar to show there had been a problem. God only knows what bugs from the soil got into my hand, but antibiotic ointments could not do in 3 months what that egg stuff did in two days. Just sayin'. I was really wishing for this stuff while I was sick, but getting to the computer to order it was beyond me.

I'm glad your mom is willing to do MMS. It is doing SOMETHING that your mom needs. But if you are in a hurry to get rid of the pseudomonas and other hospital-acquired superbugs, consider the hyperimmune egg.

Laure

Subsequent email:

I order at:

www.i26forhealth.com/products.php

So far as I know, it is marketed exclusively by Legacy for Life, a subsidiary of ConAgra...they have patents for it. I haven't looked for any spin off/copy cat versions of hyperimmune egg, but you could google that as well as I could, I imagine. Legacy for Life is MLM, and I've bought it many times over the years - usually to deal with a specific health challenge because it isn't cheap. So many supplements in this world.....

The most cost effective version is the can of powder, and there are also capsules and chewables. I found that it is most pleasant to take the powder in a smoothie of some sort, like a frozen fruit smoothie or milkshake (not exactly a healing diet). Did not care for it when shaken up in their shaker cup. It doesn't taste bad, just strangely eggy. They do have flavored shake mixes, but last time I asked they were using soy isolate and I don't approve of unfermented soy in the diet, so I don't recommend those at all....I only recommend their basic, plain hyperimmune egg product - powder or pills.

Links at the bottom of the order page will take you elsewhere on their site.

Prior to discovering MMS and coconut oil, this was the health-supporting product I was most likely to mention to people who were HIV positive, too. The raw protein in the egg is super digestible/bioavailable, helping build up muscle mass to ward off the wasting process that accompanies positive HIV folks in the latter stages of decline.

Enjoy the info....

Laure

I have found inhailing mms helps,i do it very slowly, she has bad lungs and so I go slow.
not sure how many times a day to do this, been doing 1 or 2 times a day.

Hi Bush,

That's great you found something that is working. Jim mentions inhaling the fumes, you just have to be real careful. The lungs can be burned by doing too much and you don't realize it till several hours later. So just keep going slow.

You can probably gradually increase the number of times per day until you reach a point of irritation, then just back off to just below that point.

The big problem with that bug is penetrating the mucous that protects it. Chlorine dioxide is supposed to kill it easily, it just has to come into contact.

Thanks for reporting back. Please continue to keep us posted.

Michael

POSTING BELOW A POST I WROTE FOR ONE OF THE MMS GROUPS DISCUSSING THIS SUBJECT.

Hi Dan,

I will speak to you from my own experiences. I was born with a lung problem of my lungs filling up with mucous and then it being very hard to break that up and get it out. For the first 33 years of my life I took lots of powerful drugs, antibiotics, antihistamines, expectorants, decongestants, etc. to keep myself alive. Then 15 years ago I developed major gut pain and problems.

The drugs stopped working and I learned about alternative medicine and how conventional therapies, especially drugs, do not go to root causes but only mask symptoms and ultimately destroy your health. So 15 years ago was my meltdown with drug therapy and trusting doctors to help me. I decided to be my own doctor because I could not trust these guys to tell me the truth. They pretended like they knew everything when they didn't.

So 15 years ago I was faced with my lifelong lung problem and no more drugs to help me, and now a new gut pain problem. The only solution that worked for me was Gerson juice therapy. It was the only thing that could keep my lungs clear, until MMS came along. MMS has not been able to help significantly with the gut or lung problems until just recently when I started doing the Bag Protocol (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=28&id=3054&Itemid=66) and the MMS2 enemas (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=28&id=2473&Itemid=66). Prior to that, both MMS1 and 2 caused nausea at low hourly doses, so didn't help much with my main problems.

The main problem you are facing with this Pseudo bacteria is that it hides in the mucous in your lungs, and according to this article microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Pseudomonas_aeruginosa it has quorum sensing capabilities which allow the microbes to communicate and act as a group to defend themselves when under attack. And they have tails so they can burrow into the mucous and hide. It is the mucous biofilm that makes this hard to kill. The best solution is to break up the mucous. This is what Gerson juices would do for me. When I would wake up in the morning with lungs filled with mucous and start on my juicing regimen, then it would start breaking up and I could get it out.

However, in order to heal my guts I have had to go on Dom's rice only diet and that means not doing Gerson juices and diet. Before the Bag protocol and the MMS2 enemas came along, I could not have done this. I will tell you doing all these things together is making unending pain go away that has been with me for 15 years. Every time I do a bag treatment or an MMS2 enema I am getting the same breakup of mucous in my lungs that I would get from Gerson juices. So this works for my lifelong lung problem.

Since the recent Technical Bulletin (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=2&id=2998&Itemid=66) by Jim came out, I have also been using DMSO with my oral doses of mms1 and it is making a huge difference for me. It eliminates the nausea, so now I am taking 7 drop doses hourly without any problem. I have noticed when I can take large oral doses like this, it also is helping to break up lung congestion.

Also, regarding hydrogen peroxide IVs, that is something I did 3 or 4 times 15 years ago at the start of this and it had no effect on my guts or lungs. I have recently read the book by Dr. Douglass Campbell and he does say that you may need half a dozen IVs of peroxide before you start seeing benefit and that is how it was on some of the testimonials in the book for people with long term chronic conditions.

I also tried nebulizing peroxide and it did not do anything for me. However, surprisingly, Bill Munro's simple peroxide inhalation technique (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=38&id=2232&Itemid=66#2232) has helped break up the mucous in my lungs, just like the juices, bag treatments, and mms2 enemas. So I do about 3 of these inhalation treatments each day (6 squirts of 3% peroxide). This is cheap, easy and effective to do and works on many other things if you look at the testimonials on the earthclinic links. Just get a nasal sprayer with a removable top and some 3% peroxide at the drug store. That is what Bill has been using all these years to stay healthy and active and cure himself of cancer too.

Therefore, in my own experience with lifelong lung mucous, mms1 bag treatments, mms1 oral doses with DMSO, mms2 enemas and peroxide inhalation with a nasal sprayer all cause the breakup of the mucous in the lungs. These techniques could work for others with lung congestion as well.

Good Health,

Michael

Hello, I was diagnosed with Mantle cell lymphoma in Jan 2010 and did 2 rounds of chemo before my lungs couldn't take anymore. I was tested for a blood clot in my lungs but instead they found pulmonary fibrosis. I am in remission now thank God! I was taking MMS before I was diagnosed and had to stop all my holistic therepy because I was so sick. This spring I had a hard time breathing and went to the hospital for more tests. This time it turned out to be Pseudomonas Aeruginosa and a blood clot in my lungs. Since April I have been on Cipro for 4 weeks, IV anti-biotics for 3 weeks and then back in the hospital with a relapse of Pseudo A. and pneumonia. I am now home on Cipro again for 4 weeks and feel like crap. Will MMS work with the Cipro, coumadin and my high blood pressure medicine ( diovan 320) and will it help clear up my lungs. If so what would be the protocol! Thank you.

You should consider using Protocol 2000. I don't think that MMS1 or MMS2 will interfere with your meds, but "proving" that is impossible without testing. The use of MMS2 would most likely be very helpful as in my experience it's very effective in clearing lung congestion.

I would recommend the hourly-dose protocols, keep the levels of doses small enough to avoid any detox reactions. Also recommend taking high-quality probiotics, particularly after you're off the antibiotics - a good course to restore your intestinal flora.

Best wishes for your restored wellness,
Bruce