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TOPIC: CDS

CDS 02 Sep 2012 00:04 #22383

Hello,

JIM HUMBLE is talking in the last edition of his interesting book "The Master Mineral Solution of the Third Millenium" about CDS. Please help me with a few information because are not included in the book:

1. From where is the best to buy CDS online (I'm asking because are so many frauds online and is risky to Google for such information);

2. Is CDS more efficient than MMS for skin applications and tub baths? What quantities have to be used and at what time intervals?

3. If is needed an internal protociol too, similar to 100 or 2000 when using skin applications and tub baths for skin problems.

4. How long is taking to start having some results and for how long must use CDS for skin problems?

5. Are there any web sites or any books offering information about CDS?

It will be great if JIM will take time and write a little book about CDS, probably will help many people - I'll buy such book as soon as will be available.

Thank you all for helping and sharing your experience about CDS
Warmest regards.

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Last edit: by GG2012. Reason: more posting

Re: CDS 02 Sep 2012 16:15 #22407

CDS has only been out since last October or November - and we are still learning about it. When JH writes his books, they're usually written over a couple of years - so it's newer than his latest book. We are still finding things it's good for and things it is not as good for - and in the process finding WHY it's not as good for those things. So,, as I say, it's a moving target. I THINK (my opinion) that we're going to find that it's good to have a stronger dose of CDS than we would of MMS. But that's not actually been published yet.

Don't know where you are, but CDS is actually illegal to ship in the US - you may find vendors who will sell it, and I can't speak to the quality of their product. Jim Humble has an approved vendor list at www.waterpurificationsuppliers.is You may find the answers to your questions there. It is actually quite easy to make.

CDS does seem to have good efficacy with skin issues. And you can make it extra strong, if you're making it yourself. I, personally, tend to use CDS undiluted with skin issues. Just put it in a capped spray or dropper bottle. Keep the bottle cool (I keep my CDS spray in the fridge) - and watch for the color to change - It will lighten up over time as the CD gas escapes. At some point you'll need to make a fresh batch.

I would use CDS in the bath in at least the MMS drop equivalents. So, you'd do a bath with 20 drops of activated MMS - use the equivalent amount of CDS. How much will depend on the strength of your CDS. Most CDS, if shipped, is shipped at 3,000 ppm/L - for that 1mL or 1cc is the equivalent to 3 drops of MMS. So for a bath you would use 7mL or 7ccs of CDS. If you've got a stronger batch, you can adjust the dose for that ppm.

We are all individual - you would need to watch for your own results. It should be easy to see on the skin. I've read about CDS working in as little as a week, or sometimes it takes much longer. It will depend on your own body. JH says to dose until you're well. Sometimes you might need to add other things - like baths or enemas or douches. It all depends on what you're treating. I tried to cut my left thumb knuckle off (an accident with a cooking knife), sprayed it immediately with CDS, 12,500ppm/L, it stopped bleeding very quickly (there was butter on the knife, it was not clean), never infected, healed in good time, and I have no noticeable scar - and I keloid, normally.

I'm sure, at some point, CDS will be published. It's taught in the training now. They're still working on it - particularly some of the veterinary applications, and the injectable form.

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Re: CDS 02 Sep 2012 17:26 #22415

Pam, thanks for helping. I'm in US. Maybe CDS should be shipped as water disinfectant, same as MMS?

How you find out the PPM for CDS and how you increase it (to decrease is simple - add water)?.

What PPM is the best to use for spraying on the skin, what you use?

All the best.

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Re: CDS 02 Sep 2012 18:05 #22417

MMS ( Chlorite solution Class 8 Corrosive, UN#1908, PGII)
Sodium Chlorite (Sodium Chlorite, Class 5.1 oxidizer, UN#1496, PGII)
CDS (Chlorine Dioxide Hydrate, Class 5.1 (6.1), Oxidizer (poison), NA#9191, PGII)

You cant's ship CDS as a water disinfectant, there is no ORM exception.
Legally, you can't ship MMS via US mail. It has to ship as an ORM ground item.

There is a dry ice exception to Chlorine Dioxide Hydrate (CDS) but only on large bulk shipments.
UPS, Fed ex, and USPS all forbid it in any form, frozen or otherwise.

It is not possible to send overseas, it doesn't even have a UN number.
Take it from a guy who spent over 8 hours of the US DOT going over all my manifests,
and has hazmat shipping training and certification.

Mailing MMS via USPS is not allowed.
Mailing Sodium Chlorite flake and powder is not allowed.

Sodium Chlorite Flake and Powder must ship as dangerous goods.
MMS can ship as an ORM-D commodity (ground only) up to 1/3 gallon per container, 1000 lbs max shipment. over 1000 pounds requires hazmat shipping.

Shipping MMS by USPS is not allowed.

The CFR 49 is one of the most convoluted, hard to grasp pieces of writing in existence.
What I have written is correct, and Michael can back me up. We both checked the laws carefully after I got in dutch with the DOT.
There are some simple ways to make CDS yourself.
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Re: CDS 02 Sep 2012 23:04 #22431

Steve is absolutely correct about the CFR 49 USDOT law and the rules of the shippers: USPS, UPS, and FedEx.

If you flaunt the laws it eventually catches up with you. The FDA laws are a different situation than the shipping laws. We can get around the FDA though by selling products for legal purposes.

Also, I know Andreas is working on a small book about CDS. He wants help with testimonials section, so please folks, if you CDS testimonials post them and send them to me, especially if you have some pictures or medical reports. Send to me at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it..

Michael
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Re: CDS 03 Sep 2012 05:19 #22438

I am also trying to find out how to test the ppm of cds. I can see that people use test strips, but here in Australia, the best I have come up with is a strip which tests 1-500 ppm. I use it as a maintenance dose and take it the same as MMS (3 drops (1 mil) when I can feel a virus coming on and it seems to do the job just as well. But I would really like to know the strength of my concoction.

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Re: CDS 03 Sep 2012 11:21 #22447

You can use the 1-500 and get pretty close.
It's a matter of dilution. CDS at around 3000 ppm is very bright yellow/green (kind of like mountain dew)

At 6000 it gets a little browner and darker....... You can dilute with 9 parts water, 1 part of your CDS and get a ballpark idea.

There is no instrument I have found that measures the high concentrations.

You can also order the 1-10 ppm strips for finer work and a dilute the sample even further.

The truth is, that when you are diluting, and working with strips, you have some degree of variance.
Michael has a meter, but I believe he also has to dilute to get proper measure.

The good news is that with some practice, you can use the color of the CDS to get pretty close when you make it.
There are also some standard measurements the folks here use with fairly consistent results.

The Grainger 1-10 and 1-500 strips are here, and may be mailed overseas.
www.grainger.com/Grainger/wwg/search.shtml?searchQuery=chlorine+dioxide&op=search&Ntt=chlorine+dioxide&N=0&GlobalSearch=true&sst=subset
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Re: CDS 03 Sep 2012 14:45 #22455

1-500 chlorine dioxide testing strips are perfect. How are you trying to test?
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Re: CDS 03 Sep 2012 15:51 #22458

To test the strength of CDS if your test strips are only to 500 PPM take a measured sample say 1 cc and dilute 10 times and test. If still showing above 500 PPM dilute again 10 x and test. if it comes out say 100 PPM you can multiply back to see original strength..

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