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I recently in the past year was diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis (RA). I had been managing it with a complete dietary change of eliminating all processed foods, wheat, corn, dairy, sugar, coffee and alcohol. I see an acupuncturist who has helped me immensly in my disease process managing pain and in combination with dietary changes achieved much success. i did start methotrexate and it has helped manage it as well kind of "turning off" my immune system overdrive. I have tried going off of it but sx's return within 1 week. At my acupuncturis suggestion he has talked about use of MMS in my treatment plan. I believe this is the route I want to go, but how do I go about it while on the methotrexate. Do I stop taking it once I start the MMS or do a weaning process. Not sure how to go about this in the right way. He was not sure either on what the protocol may be. I don't know if any other members have had this same problem and what their stories and successes may be. Thanks so much for any input you may be able to provide. i am very excited about starting and toward a life without the use of western medicene!!! Thanks so much!!!!

Hi M. It sounds like methotrexate is poison. Unless you're trying to induce an abortion, I would try to quit.
You don't say what you have for MMS, or how you plan to use it. Have you looked here: genesis2church.is/mms-protocol-1000.html
Please give us more details.

brtanner wrote:
MMS1 has been found effective with both Rheumatoid and Osteo- Arthritis.
One thing that I've found very effective for joint pain is DMSO. It can be applied topically mixed with 30% water without causing skin irritation. I keep it in a spray bottle for that.

kahlon wrote:
I split it with 3 other family members. One is doing protocol 1000 for arthritis and she is very pleased with the results. She took it just over a week now. At first she was doubtful because there was alot of pain, more than usual, but now the pain is subsiding and she can move about way more than she used to.

the MD or pharmacist can help you with a protocol for reducing or stopping a pharma drug. There probably is also information on the net as to how to do it but alternative doctors or other health care professionals other than MD or pharamascsts cannot legally discuss that with you. ~Dr. Cary

Ive been taking methotrexate, Prednisone And mms for ra. I was taking arava. Had to get off of it. That is when is started mms. Also I was taking vicodin for pain. I no longer need the vicodin and have cut my prednisone in half. (2.5). As soon as I can get consistant with mms im sure I will be able to cut the prednisone out completly.(well see). Then I will start weening off of the meth. That s my plan any way.
Phyllis

I agree with Paul there rnforkids1002

If you can manage it - get off the drugs and continue with your clean diet, but get on with P1000 seriously.

I have had amazing results with my ra - but I was not taking any drugs for it. I am lucky being a vegetarian so my diet required small adjustments. I take as little processed foods as possible to avoid fungi and absolutely no sugar. I buy fresh stone ground flour and bake my own bread.

Doing ok - and all my ra has subsided completely.

I looked up prednisone and this is what it said

Prednisone
Prednisone is a corticosteroid. In contrast to anabolic steroids (used by “bodybuilders”), corticosteroids are used in inflammatory conditions for their anti–inflammatory effects. They have a rapid onset of action, and profoundly affect many parts of the immune system as well as most other body systems. Corticosteroids are a cornerstone of treating most types of vasculitis, and are often used in combination with other immunosuppressive medications.
Side Effects
Many of the side–effects of steroids are predictable. All are related to: 1) the amount of steroid a patient takes in his/her daily dose, and 2) the length of time the patient remains on the medication.

I think another person was on steriods in another part of this forums and the mms wasnt working on her.

Kahlon

Methotrexate

Methotrexate may cause very serious side effects.

Some side effects of methotrexate may cause death. You should only take methotrexate to treat life-threatening cancer, or certain other conditions that are very severe and that cannot be treated with other medications. Talk to your doctor about the risks of taking methotrexate for your condition.

Tell your doctor if you have or have ever had excess fluid in your stomach area or in the space around your lungs and if you have or have ever had kidney disease. Also tell your doctor if you are taking nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAID) such as aspirin, choline magnesium trisalicylate (Tricosal, Trilisate), ibuprofen (Advil, Motrin), magnesium salicylate (Doan's), naproxen (Aleve, Naprosyn), or salsalate. These conditions and medications may increase the risk that you will develop serious side effects of methotrexate. Your doctor will monitor you more carefully and may need to give you a lower dose of methotrexate or stop your treatment with methotrexate.

Methotrexate may cause a decrease in the number of blood cells made by your bone marrow. Tell your doctor if you have or have ever had a low number of any type of blood cells or any other problem with your blood cells. Your doctor may tell you not to take methotrexate unless you have life-threatening cancer. Call your doctor immediately if you experience any of the following symptoms: sore throat, chills, fever, or other signs of infection; unusual bruising or bleeding; excessive tiredness; pale skin; or shortness of breath.

Methotrexate may cause liver damage, especially when it is taken for a long period of time. If you drink or have ever drunk large amounts of alcohol or if you have or have ever had liver disease, your doctor may tell you not to take methotrexate unless you have a life-threatening form of cancer because there is a higher risk that you will develop liver damage. The risk that you will develop liver damage may also be higher if you are elderly, obese, or have diabetes. Tell your doctor if you are taking any of the following medications: acitretin (Soriatane), azathioprine (Imuran), isotretinoin (Accutane), sulfasalazine (Azulfidine), or tretinoin (Vesanoid). To decrease the risk of developing liver damage, do not drink alcohol while you are taking methotrexate. Call your doctor immediately if you experience any of the following symptoms: nausea, extreme tiredness, lack of energy, loss of appetite, pain in the upper right part of the stomach, yellowing of the skin or eyes, or flu-like symptoms. Your doctor may order liver biopsies (removal of a small piece of liver tissue to be examined in a laboratory) before and during your treatment with methotrexate.

Methotrexate may cause lung damage. Tell your doctor if you have or have ever had lung disease. Call your doctor immediately if you experience any of the following symptoms: dry cough, fever, or shortness of breath.

Methotrexate may cause damage to the lining of your mouth, stomach or intestines. Tell your doctor if you have or have ever had stomach ulcers or ulcerative colitis (condition in which part or all of the lining of the intestine is swollen or worn away). If you experience any of the following symptoms, stop taking methotrexate and call your doctor right away: mouth sores, diarrhea, black, tarry, or bloody stools, or vomit that is bloody or looks like coffee grounds.

Taking methotrexate may increase the risk that you will develop lymphoma (cancer that begins in the cells of the immune system). If you do develop lymphoma, it might go away without treatment when you stop taking methotrexate, or it might need to be treated with chemotherapy.

If you are taking methotrexate to treat cancer, you may develop certain complications as methotrexate works to destroy the cancer cells. Your doctor will monitor you carefully and treat these complications if they occur.

Methotrexate may cause serious or life-threatening skin reactions. If you experience any of the following symptoms, call your doctor immediately: fever, rash, blisters, or peeling skin.

Methotrexate may decrease the activity of your immune system, and you may develop serious infections. Tell your doctor if you have any type of infection and if you have or have ever had any condition that affects your immune system. Your doctor may tell you that you should not take methotrexate unless you have life-threatening cancer. If you experience signs of infection such as a sore throat, cough, fever, or chills, call your doctor immediately.

If you take methotrexate while you are being treated with radiation therapy for cancer, methotrexate may increase the risk that the radiation therapy will cause damage to your skin, bones, or other parts of your body.

Keep all appointments with your doctor and the laboratory. Your doctor will order certain lab tests before, during, and after your treatment to check your body's response to methotrexate and to treat side effects before they become severe.

Tell your doctor if you or your partner is pregnant or plan to become pregnant. If you are female, you will need to take a pregnancy test before you begin taking methotrexate. Use a reliable method of birth control so that you or your partner will not become pregnant during or shortly after your treatment. If you are male, you and your female partner should continue to use birth control for 3 months after you stop taking methotrexate. If you are female, you should continue to use birth control until you have had one menstrual period that began after you stopped taking methotrexate. If you or your partner become pregnant, call your doctor immediately. Methotrexate may harm the fetus.