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I'm having real problems with my stomach and I'm sure its the mms.I take glucophage for my diabetes,which gives me diarrhoea everyday and I have numerous health issues,but every time I drink my mms now,my stomach burns,I feel nauseous and I cant eat.My blood sugars are more eratic since starting mms,even though I eat very little,because I feel so ill and I cannot stomach mms anymore. My stomach burns,the more of it I drink.I drink 24 drops of mms in 32oz of water a day and drink 4oz every hour.It cant be herxheimers and it cant be that I need to reduce my dose,as I messed my dose up for nearly 2 weeks to begin with and was taking 8 drops an hour and I didnt feel this way.I've managed 1 dose today and cant drink anymore,my stomach hurts that much and feel so nauseous.Any suggestions?

best wishes sharon

add 1/8 a teaspoon of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) to your 32 oz. That should handle it, Sharon.

Really? How does that help? Is it anything to do with stomach acid,if it is,I do have low stomach acid and take 6 betaine HCL a day.Is mms alkalising,if it is,its destroying the stomach acid I'm trying to build up and then I have a problem:(

best wishes sharon

I don't know, Sharon. All I could do is guess. <G> Activated MMS is not alkalising - and neither is CDS. I think activated MMS is around 4.6, which is the same as many foods. That you don't have to worry about.

I would guess (GUESSING HERE!!) that the extra HCL you're taking might be making the MMS stronger in the stomach - but I don't know. The small amount of baking soda buffers the citric acid in the solution. Some people have problems with citric acid.

Do you remember what you were like before taking the HCL? Do you know what the HCL changed? If so, then I'd try the MMS with the baking soda (make up the 24 drops, activated, add it to the 32 oz of water, then add the 1/8 tsp of baking soda to the water and shake to mix all) - do it for a day - see if it makes a difference in how you stomach the MMS, and see how it affects the results you had before and after you started the HCL.

One (or two) days is probably going to be able to give you some idea of what is going on - and at the same time, if it does affect interfere with the HCL, 1 or 2 days will be just temporary.

Hi Pam,Before I took HCL I had the same symptoms as I do now with the mms,I cant eat as it makes me feel very nauseous,my stomach burns and I feel very fatigued.I take the HCL for low stomach acid,but I also have to take ox bile,as I dont have a gallbladder and have problems digesting fats,they help,but I still have symptoms and my stomach constantly hurts a lot.

I cant tell you how miserable and down I feel with all this,everything I try to feel better gives me even more issues! I am craving sooo badly and feel dreadful if I eat salads and vegetables,maybe because of these stomach issues.If I eat veg,boy do I feel ill! My stomach burns more,I'm almost vomiting for hours and I am so fatigued,I feel like I could pass out and veg is supposed to be good for you!Lol! I am at a loss at the moment as to know what to do with ALL my issues,I feel like my body is giving up and my cheeks,which are always flushed,are much worse lately and even look purple,I'm wondering if thats a sign of an unhealthy liver?

best wishes sharon

Sharon,
I dont know what betaine HCL is but for making H/acid use "ORGANIC apple cider vinergar". The other stuff is rubbish. I have used it for acid reflux and it is very quick to work. Maybe a table spoon full in a glass of water to your taste.
Apple Cider Vinegar has the benefit of Calcium,potassium iron,sodium and several other minerals. Everybody should have a little each day.
Here is a site, copy and paste this and you will the benefits of taking ACV... ORGANIC APPLE CIDER VINERGAR.
www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/apple-cider-vinegar.shtml

As for the liver>The liver is the power house to the your body and should be functioning properly.. If your Doc tells you you have a fatty liver, this means the bile ducts are clogged with LIver Stones.These stones must travel down the liver bile ducts to the gall bladder. When people have a gall bladder attack this means it is jammed up with stones that arrived from the liver. They call them gall stones but they are actually liver stones. Ultra sounds do not show up the stones in the liver, but they see them in the gall bladder.The Doc has not learnt that.
Its not a bad idea to find out basically what your problem may be and then it is a lot easier to work a plan of attack.
Flushed cheeks can be a sign of high blood pressure? or just cold air?
Take one good teaspoon of Cinnamon for your diabetes to balance your blood sugar. It is excellent for this and diabetes can be turned around with eating correct nutritious food. Andreas Moritz wrote a excellent book on Diabetes called "Diabetes - No More". For my breakfast I have porridge out of rolled oats, a table spoon of organic honey,2 t/spoons cinnamon and 2 t/spoons nutmeg. Mix it up. No milk. I have read where a good sized cooked steak, for the body to digest this ,the pancreas has to secreat the same amount of insulin as it would to process 1 pound of sugar, Frightening !.Strictly avoid sugar and starchy foods such as pasta and potatoes. Much worse than sugar are artificial sweeteners.
A good tea spoon of Baking Soda with water is known to "quickly alkaline" your stomach/body. See DR T. Simoncini book who uses Bk/soda to kill fungus in the stomach.
There you are . I hope you can get something out of this.

I thank both pam & sharon. 1st for sharing knowledge and 2nd for looking for knowledge to help herself. science, including our body, is always changing. that is the way possible to gain new improved results for any actions we take. So sharon do not give up. continue to question and try different and new ideas. each bit of knowledge you gain allows you to find improved results.
now to get off my soap box, here is where i come from and my question. My college knowledge is a major in agriculture chemistry with minors in animal nutrition, soils, and entomology. I have been interested in health advances since the 60's and shaklee products. Have worked 9 years plus in the nutrition and chemistry industries. 30 plus years as a practicing apiculturist.
I see misunderstanding in what amount of mms a person takes because if you ues 10% acid ve 50% you get different ration of mms in the finished product. any suggestions are appreciated. I will talk in actual drops of mms.
My current mixture , activated mms, gives one drop mms to 10 drops of activated. i mix this with howevewr much water or juice i want when i drink it.
Sharon my exerience might help. when i take the first mms drink , in the morning, i can stand 4-6 drops of mms(40 t0 60) drops of activated with little or mild stomach upset. the next hour dose Must be less or i can not stomach it. i assume that shows a build up in my system that controls how much i can stand. how many hourly drinks it takes to "fill" the system reserve probably varies ..

Now my question; any information, good or bad, on how pure prune juice effects mms results. I like prune juice, it is easy to get, and the label shows pure 100% with no added ascorbic acid. It helps my stomach accept the mms mix.

Side note; I believe anybody will benefit and have better health if they address their potassium sodium balance. I believe in listening to and using any and all resources i canfind to increase my knowledge. for expert info go to www.drpasswater.com. Use his search engine to find cellular potassium-sodium ratio. these newsletter interviews are very good. I use potassium salt with sea salt added to my reverse osmosis water to support my health.
like my email, i check this forum whenever so will be back whenever
No pun intended, but it is a "tounge in cheek" statement. So i will say it!
Take all my above info with "a grain of salt" so to speak. Do not accept it as "gospel" My wife reminds me , you have been wrong before.
So i appreciate any comments as continued searching for a better life.
thanks jim s.

Hi Woofy,thanks for your reply.I started to type my reply and almost finished and I deleted it somehow,how annoying!

Betaine HCL is betaine hydrochloride and Ive heard about apple cider vinegar and its benefits,but I didnt know it was that good,so I'll definately try it! I didnt know it contained so much and I have electrolyte imbalances and am anaemic too,so it should help a lot.

I had my gallbladder removed due to gallstones,found with a scan,but you're right,they never mentioned liver stones.I was told I had a fatty liver several years ago and even before that I done a liver cleanse,which involved me drinking epsom salts and a mixture of grapefruit juice and olive oil,yuck,it makes me feel sick thinking about it! Boy did it make me ill doing the cleanse,I thought my stomach was going to rip open as the cramps were sooo bad and I passed hundreds,if not thousands of "stones",ranging from pea green to beige in colour and about the size of peas or larger.

I do not have high blood pressure and its not the cold thats making my cheeks flushed.They seem to get worse as the day goes on and if I do the slightest bit of walking,I'm sure red cheeks,or even purplish as mine get,is a sign of a liver problem.

I've heard about cinnamon lowering blood sugars,but I cant exactly just take a spoonful of cinnamon and is it any old cinnamon like the stuff you cook with?

You say about turning round diabetes,but do you mean controlling or curing,as I am a memeber of an adrenal forum and the owner has diabetes,as does a lot of the forum dwellers and they ALL say there is no cure,absolutely none,just control and thats it.But I believe Jim Humble says that about half the people with diabetes that use mms are cured of diabetes,as its probably caused by inflammation,but the owner of the adrenal forum adamantly says that diabetes causes the inflammation,not the other way round,so I'm monumentally confused!

I will certainly look up Andreas Moritz book,but there are so many on diabetes,I have one by Richard K Bernstein called diabetes solution and its very interesting,but I have a hard time reading because being hypothyroid means I get very tired and cant absorb anything mentally!Lol!

I absolutely love porridge,but its a gluten and gluten isnt good for you and it raises my blood sugar as its high in carbs,as does honey.Also,meat keeps my blood sugar down,so I wonder how it takes as much to insulin to digest it as a pound of sugar,a high protein high fat diet is the best for a diabetic.

I dont know that baking soda would help me,as I have low stomach acid and alkalising it would drop my stomach acid more wouldnt it?

I appreciate your reply Woofy and thanks for the link,its very helpful,are you diabetic too?

best wishes sharon

Hi Jim,thanks for your reply,I really appreciate it.I really cant stand the issues mms causes with my stomach,its too much and doesnt wear off,it just gets worse and worse everyday.

I love prune juice,but it raises my blood sugar,just like everything accept water!Lol!

I do have electrolyte imbalances and will certainly look at the link you gave me.

Best wishes sharon