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if it kills all pathogens+bacteria, why not candida?

@rowbot, what are they using to activate? Jim, in his book, talks about not using vinegar to activate the mms1.

I have found that candida is pretty stubborn. I'm guessing it hangs out in the biofilm. Staying on the candida diet during the protocol helps a lot - but (individual cases may vary) 3 weeks may not be long enough to handle it - Jim stated in the training that it could take 6 weeks to handle it, because it goes deeper into the tissues. He also suggests a round of protocol 2000, if the 1000 does not work.

And others may have more/different suggestions.

Candida (yeast) are ancient complex organisms that can adapt to their environments. For example, MMS is a weak oxidizer. At first, the yeast will get killed by MMS but after a short time, the yeast will produce it own antioxidants to neutralize the oxidants effects of MMS.

My friend cured Candida which she had had for over 10 years simply by doing raw foods. She kept a very small amount of oily fish in her diet and small amounts of cooked grain but no bread or sugar. After that she just ate tons of raw food and veg. It worked within 6 weeks ... MMS kills pathogens but there needs to be some rebalancing in the acid-alkaline ratios of your body. You also have to supply the body with the right nutrition because this most likely is why the Candida came along in the first place: a lack of the full range of enzymes, minerals, vitamins and food groups in the body to prevent disease. One other thing. My friend used ecological products for cleaning her bathroom and the whole house. Unfortunately they don't fully kill the bacteria you can get down the toilet and in baths and basins. When she cleaned up her house with heavy duty chemicals her overall health also improved at the same time as the Candida vanishing.

my candida has progressed to leaky gut syndrome, which complicates things somewhat. the skin all around my stomach and groin is peppered with red, raised blotches and it itches. im pretty sure the acid in MMS does not help things. i never use vinegar to activate.
in all honesty, MMS has only cured my mouth from candida, but nothing else.
below are two great sites regarding these issues, which, it seems, more and more people are suffering from.
thanks for the tips. im currently fasting (day 6) and the blotches are still there. its all very frustrating.





www.foodmatters.tv/_webapp_348606/How_to_Overcome_Candida_Naturally
www.leakygut.co.uk/index.htm

www.parasitetesting.com
best in the world

sounds like u got parasites

go to you tube geet engine and mms

I addressed this issue in another section of this forum. If I am successful, a copy of my discussion will appear below. If not, just look for another topic about candida and MMS on this website.

Hi rowbot,

You raised a good question about candida and MMS. So lets discuss it further.

I beleive that I also have candida overgtowth but it is only my belief. I could not confirm it. I took a candida symptoms test on the internet and the result showed that there was a very high probability that I have candida. The saliva test showed the same result. So I went to my physician and asked him to test me for candida overgrowth. That what he said, basically: "I know that alternative medicine has this concept of candida overgrowth but we cannot test for it here".
That left me to seek the answers on my own. Thank God for the internet.

1. I tried the diet and verious herbal preparations (enzymes, caprilic acid, cloves, oregano oil, olive leaf extract, bentonite clay, no breads, sweets, alcohol, etc., etc.). This alleviated the condition somewhat. But it seems to me that the remedy is worse than the disease if one has to continue this way of life virtually indefinitely. This protocol should be followed for a long time, up to two years. I gave up after three weeks.

2. So I kept searching and trying verious regimens to no effect. Than I found about MMS. I read Jim's books and the website and started protocol 1000. Then I added DMSO. I tried hard to follow the protocol as closely as I could. I never could take more than 3 drops an hour (24 drops per day). And after a day or two on this dosage, I had to cut it back to one drop per hour and start progressing again. I continued this for almost two months but had to quit because I developed upset stomack. It hurt.

I have to say here that some of my worst symptoms disappeared while on Protocol 1000, such as persistent cough, bronchi congestion, headaches, some simptoms of arthritis. Also, my psoriasis, that I have had for almost 60 years alleviated somwhat as well. I am convinced that MMS is a great product. But it appears that I cannot tolerate citric acid. Luckily, Jim proposed CDS i/o MMS. I prepared 8oz of CDS following his video (which is excellent) and am waiting for the test strips to begin a course of CDS.

3. Again, the main problem with candida treatment is that it is not easy to understand or examine if the treatment is effective. So, if the treatment causes some side effects, like die-off effect, and you do not feel well, you start second-guessing yourself. Maybe it is a temporary worsening of your condition or may be you are damaging something inside your body. Maybe it will be a permanent damage. Who can say? You cannot go to a doctor and tell him that you are on Protocol 1000 and do not feel well and please test me. I do not know how to deal with this problem. Hopefully, CDS will be much easyer to take. (I found now that it is really much gentler on the stomack than MMS).

But there is another problem with candida as far as MMS/CDS is concerned. I read in many books that when candida overgrows it becomes a fungus, then grows through the intestinal walls and may get into any part of the body. If you read Item 10. Fungus Control on Jim's website you will see that MMS cannot touch the fungus (he is talking about a rare type of fungus on feet, but who knows. Maybe the same happens, or does not happen, to fungus inside our bodies). So, I kept searching for answers.

4. I found a very interesting site, ordered some products from it and began another treatment protocol which I will follow along with CDS Protocol 1000. I do not know if these products will help or not, but the site is different from many other "candida" sites. And the strict dieting is not required if these products are used. So I recommend that all interested members log on to the following website and read the information. If someone decides to try these products, please share your experience with this forum. I will do the same. (As a matter of fact I ordered and am using two products at this time: CandElim and CandiClear5. They are easy to take and seem to be helping. I still continue Protocol 1000 with CDS)

candida-yeast-infection-relief.com/index.html


Regards and good luck

Thanks for your reply, lots of speculation there. also, your link is the first one that appears on google, not really 'research'. we all know not to believe everything you read on the internet, (hence my reservations about MMS initially, having first found out about it on a well known government disinformation site).
Most sites are just trying to make money by selling expensive product and talking a lot of nonsense to confuse people, hence, the level of research needed is a lot more than the first link that appears on google.
i had already read that link and there are some dubious points regarding how he gauges the effectiveness of the products.
Without diet change, you WiLL NOT kill off candida, that is fact. MMS doesn't touch it, so forget using that for it.
i will stop using MMS until i feel its done anything for me for other stuff. so far it has failed in curing much aside from a gum disease, otherwise ive just felt sicker and have NO proof its doing anything good for me apart from making my stomach very acidic.

Even a cold i thought it cured me of, after 2 days of regular doses of MMS, i was still left with most symptoms for another 5 days after that, so it really didn't change enough to make me go WOW.
i only got it to deal with candida, and it hasn't sadly. the search goes on.