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Sacrament/protocol 1000

I just saw this description for useing MMS written up this way by brtanner, our forum administrator. The perfect combination of words.... Sacrament/protocol 1000 . This would never rattle any feathers. Well done, very good.

What does the forum think?

Its good for the MMS movement and the Church. Who can argue? lol

John, MMS Green Life

How about "health sacrament"

Health Sacrament is good but I see their are alot of people trying to get the word out that MMS is the New Medicine that actually works. The Problem is that about 80% of the world is religious. The word Sacrament is actually dis-crediting MMS and making it look more like a "snake oil" because it seems were trying to make it look "divine" and alot of people are saying do a what "sacrement". Sacrament Protocol and Health Sacrament are great for the people involved in Genesis 2 church and for the people who have been cured by MMS using the Protocols in the past however the new people asking or finding out about MMS are getting offended just hearing such words to be related to medicine.

It is a great name for the people who know mms and realize it is not a religious church so really "who cares what's its called" and we understand why the church idea was invented or realized by Jim Humble but the new people are really saying dumb dumb. MMS could reach about 10 outta a hundred to begin with, now i'd say around 3 or 4 would try it.

Sorry if I sound bad, im not trying too at all, i am really for the MMS movement, but i guess im just telling you what ive heard from hundreds of people, my own family doesn't agree and 2 people got cured of cancer, they think its insulting to the lord.

john,
MMS Green Life

At the end of the day sacrament is just a word, another difficult word for some people to handle, just the word church is offensive to others, but Archbishop Jim has decided to go the church way and use the word sacrament and I feel he is right, as always and has done his legal homework and that is how it shall be known, sacrament, call it protocol or whatever you like but at the end of day it will remain a sacrament of the Genesis 2 Church of Health and Healing.

For those who are paranoid about the word sacrament here is a suggestion.

Get a balloon and blow it up and write the word sacrament on it with a large marker pen, than throw the balloon into the air and with a pin just burst the balloon with the word sacrament on it and this should bring an end to your paranoid situation with a word that can actually mean whatever you want it to mean.......

It has nothing to do with being paranoid at all. If you are all for the Genesis 2 church and Jim Humble then all effort should be obtained to see it grow, and grow strong. The Genesis 2 church was a brilliant idea, to get away with freedom of belief, belief in MMS if you will, everyone has their beliefs which is great. For Example ZnzMagic - you seem very upset that people dont like the word sacrement, it annoy's you, and you wonder why people are paranoid. People in the religious aspect feel the same way. For example :colloidal silver destroys pathogens and parasites just like mms, but noone calls it the holy colloidal silver because it will then simply make it look way inferior to a legitimate product. Their are very many smart and organized people in this world, not just Jim humble. So many are smarter, this is why Gov and it's agency's have control on any of us and mms as a whole. Their are other smart people that try to look at an investment and the future of their products to better them and be successful. My only point is this, If Genesis 2 Church wants to reach the Hundreds of Millions around the world and heal as you and all MMS people wish to do, then we need to be smart. And being smart includes involving as many people as possible and as quickly as possible so it can happen. To say that people are paranoid over a name is childish and ignorant, everything can be made from a name, such as Jesus, USA, Jim Humble, Wal Mart,- a name will bring it up or down. If you want MMS to go up then you and I and all must be smart. Being so dedicated is a great attribute to the MMS movement, and Im sure all MMS people are happy with ZnzMagic's work and help on so many interesting and educational topics he has provided. My only point is do we let goverment, and FDA, NWO, etc Win, or is their a way to Pull Everyone in on the MMS movement and other Rebel causes that will make us all flourish and smile one day. Once we get their then I suggest things can be called or named what ever anybody wants as a whole. But as of now to say, like it or not we dont care, is very foolish unless one wish's to stay small.

I hope this topic has not offended anyone, and I wish all the best to the Genesis 2 Church and members such as ZnzMagic. If we all were as dedicated then we all would be as well. Until then, God Bless and take Care,

And to all who do or do not feel sacrament is insulting, remember that taking a chance is one thing, taking a chance with a life, even your own is another.

A smart man once told me in church that he was an Athiest. I asked him why he was in church if he was an Athiest. He said because he was a businesss man. I could not figure that out. He told Me either I can not believe and live no eternal life and in darkness or I can believe and play the game and if their is a god then I'll be O.K.

So my point is - I dont care if you believe in god or not, I dont care if you call it sacrament or protocol, however if an individual is smart and looks to the future he will always think twice and not go with the flow because it seems right.

Take Care All, and remember everyone is entitled to their opinion and freedom of speech and this is mine! If you do not agree thats fine, if you do that fine, if we were all the same, we'd look alike and talk alike and be called alike. but were not, we are all individuals with different ways of thinking.

To good health and long years, MMSGL

Bottom line Jim's attorney's advised him to use these words for the day of battle in court is comming and Jim will be the one in court fighting by claiming this is a church Period . Its a very smart defence because in court there hasen't been any defence I've seen that wins against the FDA . Remember thay call it practicing medecine without a license. A church has many protections. Jim is just useing great wisdom. There are many people in prison rite now that didn't have a plan when they they came to there business took there products and computers then took them to jail and to court and then to prison. So some of the terminology might not gain the most sales of the product or might offend a few that don't like the idea of church affiliation or or or or BUT it just might be what it takes to keep a few people out of jail for now or for awile. Yes very smart, Good Idea Jim, hip hip hurrah

Wow....... Please see blue reply...... I think you are upset that the word sacrament is being used but you are free to use protocol I will still understand what you are talking about and will accept that, not a problem at all, I prefer sacrament to protocol no even at first I did not but I am flexible and if Jim says Sacrament it is than that is good enough for me, I accept..... what is so bad about sacrament, most people these days do not even know what religion is in the first place and just by using a word sacrament can not be the end of the world..... It is being used as this ill technically keep us out of trouble

It has nothing to do with being paranoid at all. If you are all for the Genesis 2 church and Jim Humble then all effort should be obtained to see it grow, and grow strong. The Genesis 2 church was a brilliant idea, to get away with freedom of belief, belief in MMS if you will, everyone has their beliefs which is great. For Example ZnzMagic - you seem very upset that people dont like the word sacrement, it annoy's you, and you wonder why people are paranoid.

Okay perhaps paranoid is not the word to be used would phobia be better.....

Does not annoy me one bit that people do not accept the word sacrament, why should it, the truth is the word church if anything is annoying as I am in Africa where a large population is not Christian and it is hard to sell, but if Jim thinks it is better to be a church for protection reasons so let it be, I have to explain to people now what exactly the word church means, it does not have to be religion, you may start and join a church of many different things, for example the church of cannabis, it could be a church but has nothing to do with religion, so it does not upset me if people accept or do not accept words whether church or sacrament.......

People in the religious aspect feel the same way. For example :colloidal silver destroys pathogens and parasites just like mms, but noone calls it the holy colloidal silver because it will then simply make it look way inferior to a legitimate product. Their are very many smart and organized people in this world, not just Jim humble. So many are smarter, this is why Gov and it's agency's have control on any of us and mms as a whole. Their are other smart people that try to look at an investment and the future of their products to better them and be successful. My only point is this, If Genesis 2 Church wants to reach the Hundreds of Millions around the world and heal as you and all MMS people wish to do, then we need to be smart. And being smart includes involving as many people as possible and as quickly as possible so it can happen. To say that people are paranoid over a name is childish and ignorant, everything can be made from a name, such as Jesus, USA, Jim Humble, Wal Mart,- a name will bring it up or down. If you want MMS to go up then you and I and all must be smart. Being so dedicated is a great attribute to the MMS movement, and Im sure all MMS people are happy with ZnzMagic's work and help on so many interesting and educational topics he has provided. My only point is do we let goverment, and FDA, NWO, etc Win, or is their a way to Pull Everyone in on the MMS movement and other Rebel causes that will make us all flourish and smile one day. Once we get their then I suggest things can be called or named what ever anybody wants as a whole. But as of now to say, like it or not we dont care, is very foolish unless one wish's to stay small.

There are other smart people promoting MMS as water purification, membership to health clubs and so forth, so there are individuals out there taking a different approach to Jims and they did not agree with Jims way of forming a church of health, they are doing okay and I am all for them and wish them luck, these are more businesses as you say, nothing against them, but I still believe Jims way by forming a church will in the long run give us all better protection if we stick together, no one is forced to join the Genesis 2 Church of Health mind you.

If you are talking about turning MMS for the masses than definitely you have to go black, the whole MMS movement like it or not is white, very American and European white..... white people with top medical services in their countries from this test to that test with the latest medical technology available to them, do they really need or even believe in MMS, no wonder no head way is being made in western countries promoting MMS, most people that need MMS and cannot afford or do not even have basic water and nutrition health are black people, my brothers and sisters here in Africa and other continents, what are they going to understand about a product called MMS- MASTER MINERAL SOLUTION, as it is known now, the word Master seems out of place to me, does not make me angry but to me it really means white......

Try selling a black man something called Master does not really seem ideal...... But I am not angry and I am not complaining, because I can re-package and call it what ever I want to suit my African brothers and sisters, so please let all the clever ones do and call sacraments whatever they like and perhaps think that have chosen the right path to beat the FDA and whoever else, all I am saying is that Jim knows what he is doing and if he has said it is better for legal reasons that we call a protocol a sacrament I will support that because I believe that is in the best interest of everyone, whether church member or not.

Jim is the main sacrament/protocol expert who all the clever ones you are talking about rely on and Jim says now a protocol is a sacrament, I do not like it myself, but accept it as I know it is all part of a plan that we win, Jim probably prefers protocol to sacrament himself but knows to have a better chance it has to be sacrament..


I hope this topic has not offended anyone, and I wish all the best to the Genesis 2 Church and members such as ZnzMagic. If we all were as dedicated then we all would be as well. Until then, God Bless and take Care,

Yes I certainly hope no does gets offended, for what should anyone be offended.

And to all who do or do not feel sacrament is insulting, remember that taking a chance is one thing, taking a chance with a life, even your own is another.

A smart man once told me in church that he was an Athiest. I asked him why he was in church if he was an Athiest. He said because he was a businesss man. I could not figure that out. He told Me either I can not believe and live no eternal life and in darkness or I can believe and play the game and if their is a god then I'll be O.K.

So my point is - I dont care if you believe in god or not, I dont care if you call it sacrament or protocol, however if an individual is smart and looks to the future he will always think twice and not go with the flow because it seems right.

Take Care All, and remember everyone is entitled to their opinion and freedom of speech and this is mine! If you do not agree thats fine, if you do that fine, if we were all the same, we'd look alike and talk alike and be called alike. but were not, we are all individuals with different ways of thinking.

To good health and long years, MMSGL

Yes MMS GreenLife well said freedom of speech/religion and all that, note I believe in the MOST HIGH GOD, but not churches full of gold while the poor are dying on the street, such churches are not for me, I do not pray but everyday I try and remember to thank the MOST HIGH GOD for giving me the strength to carry on and I also have an opinion and I think Jim is doing a good job to try and get as many people involved, he a good man that knows what he is doing, a wise old man ith perhaps 60 years or over of experience in alternative medicine, has done his research and his church is not a religious one but a church of health, healing and helping the poor and exposing the truth, how many churches actually do such good deeds, no one is going with the flow, we want to go with common sense and logic and use common law to win and if the courts language says it has to be sacrament instead of protocol, than I have no objection to that, I do not really care if people accept or not, why should I be angry.... it is just a word....they and you are free to call it protocol or whatever they want, religion is not involved here, it is about health and the freedom to practice health..... and whoever wants to practice the religious parts should do that in private a small distance aay from Genesis 2 Church of Health and Healing, it is your right to practice your religion but not around the health services and sacraments given by Genesis 2 Church is my understanding... THANK YOU......

if it can safe my ass call me the pope !!!!!!