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I tried to get CDS via MMS and I can't get the bubbles as Andreas and Jim Humble are telling us on these youtube links.

My Saline Solution is turning light yellow only and not dark as they are showing in the video clip.

What I am doing wrong?

Do you have experience of to have taken CDS via IV ? And is it dangerous?

Thanks in advance for all your help.
JC

PS. Take very easy with the very strong CLO2 - gas because you will feel it in your lungs if you not are taking easy.

Hi jc... I am just signed up and can't really tell you why your solution mightn't look the same but I made mine yesterday and it is fine... not as dark either as Jim's but perfectly ok to use. The house had a good clean out from the exudation which has to come from the neck of the second bottle LOL!

We had an issue with small baby bottles or anything that would be of the 2oz size here in Australia, but my husband finally plumped on a Tommy Tippee (BPA free) drinking cup. He stopped up the part that would go in the baby's mouth and put the tube in the vent part instead. There is a lot more space left than in the small bottle, but in the absence of anything locally available like it this seems to work ok. The solution left after the mms stopped gassing out was a primrose colour and not a lot darker than the solution in the larger bottle (which was no problem to find - maybe Aussie babies are deemed great guzzlers and a 2oz bottle far too small for them ) The gassing was over in about 1/2 hour so not as long as Jim's took. Maybe there will be variables with the age of the mms too... the stuff i used was quite old. I put it on the small ring of the glass topped stove and that is absolutley fine.

Taking it is a dream............... am so so grateful to everyone involved in working this out for mms had me almost throwing up at the slightest hint of the smell of chlorine after years of trying on and off to keep it up. I truly can put this in water and take it easily and so WILL take it hourly as much as possible. Have been taking it at a 3 drop dose with no ill effects.

I am treating myself for a very large skin cancer found with thermal imaging and infection that shows up loud and clear around the ears and down to the lymph. I have the imaging pics and will be able to see progress with more in a few months time so will also be able to show what is happening if people are interested.

The skin cancer is where I have had a very slight blemish on the cheek over the cheekbone but I had trusted black salve to find out if it was ok or not a few times over the past couple of years and it failed to react which is not so good. With the imaging clear that there is trouble there, I sat with a pickling vinegar pad over the spot for 5 minutes and it blew up like crazy. I have done this all over the cheek for a couple of days and have a very swollen and very ugly cancer come to the surface exactly where the imaging showed big trouble in little Lulu lol! I guess this is a plug for thermal imaging too, for without it I would be blissfully unaware of the trouble I was in - and it is big trouble if I didn't know about mms.

Does anyone have any ideas of how to make a spray with CDS? Am thinking of using that on the lesions now rather than the vinegar - although I know it will drag it out would like to see if CDS can do it. Also, another question - was the use of saline for keeping quality? If Jim was using water I have pondered why the salt?

That's about my rant for the day - probably not much help to you JC but maybe you should just take the solution anyway and see what happens?

And thanks to all involved for the forum too............ the info that is coming now is wonderful.

JC, a couple of things - these are 2 different procedures - although they both create CDS, they create different strengths of doses.

Let's look at Jim's - because if you're doing it at home, I think that's the protocol you want to follow:

1. Is the "mix" bottle about the same amount/size as the MMS/citric acid combined? (If you've got an ounce of each, you need a 2 oz bottle)

2. Is the "mix" bottle kept at about 150 - 160 degrees Fahrenheit (or 65-71 Celsius)? For that you really need a warmer of some sort - and you should test it before you start - for the hot water bath, some can use a coffee cup warmer, but some coffee cup warmers do not get hot enough - some need a hot plate. You will need a candy thermometer to be sure the hot water stays this hot.

3. Is the "receiving bottle" kept at 40 degrees or less (in an ice bucket with ice and hot water around it)?

4. Are you using 50% citric acid formulation? (Not the 10%)

5. Did you allow the mms/citric acid to activate for 20 seconds before putting it in the hot water bath?

If all these things are "yes" then either your MMS is old, or the percentages in your citric acid are wrong. That's all I can think of. I had one batch fail in the same way - just threw it out and started over. (Actually, I made a whole fresh batch of MMS, just to be safe)

Hope this helps.

Hi Pam - your replies are wonderful and also helped me to check off what i did yesterday........ I think that no3 might mean cold water not hot around it though:)

I don't have the ability to make mms (maybe it's time for doing the training videos:)) so mine was a little on the old side, but it did react right and so must have been ok.

can i ask you if you know how to make the spray from the CDS please?
thanks a heap

Hi Pam,

here are mine answers to your questions.

1. Yes

2. Yes. I have done the CDS outside here in north of Europe there the temperature is around 2 degrees Celsius (so the Saline Solution can be cold) and there I pour around the bottle with the mixted MMS in a very hot water.

3. Yes, see my answer above.

4. Yes. 50% citric solution.

5. Yes. As usual. The gas in the activated MMS bottle is dark yellow so my problem is how to get the gas into the saline solution bottle? When I put boiled water, I can see small bubbles but only during short time.

So still....what I am doing wrong?

If I understood everything, can I use one drop of CDS with water and it will be equal to 3 activated drops of MMS as before?

Do anyone have experience of CDS via IV ?

And Lulu, for your skin cancer, try to take bitter apricot kernels at the same time you are taking CDS/MMS and you will be recovered at last.

Hi,

Regarding the CDS dosage, do we use the same dose as in MMS1 using 3 drops of CDS into the amount of water eg: using 1 litre bottle marked of in 8 increments & 24drops of CDS, is this correct or has it changed? could I get some clarification on the dose for CDS please?

Thank you for your assistance.

Regards

Ken.

JC, I think the problem is that you're doing things that you think are going to give you the same results as the instructions, but aren't really.

If you put it in just boiled water, you are not putting in something that will keep a constant temperature of 150-160 degrees - so the answer to that question is "no."

If you are trying to use the outside air to keep the saline solution "cold" - it may not work. That water must be kept very cold.

If you are making it outside, with 2 celsius temperature, you are not in control of the temperature of the mms/citric acid mixture.

If you keep the "mix" bottle a constant 150 to 160 degrees farenheit, it should work. The only way you can do that is to keep it in a pan of some sort where you can keep the water 150 degrees or so and measure it with a thermometer constantly-.

You may have to move back indoors and do it on a table with a bowl of ice and a hot plate or heater of some sort.

CDS, made according to Jim's method is not measured in drops, it is 1/2mL or 1/2cc = 3 drops MMS. There is no exact drop to drop correspondence.

Also, be sure your tube is all the way to the bottom of the saline bottle. (and if you would rather use distilled water than .9% saline solution, you may do that)

Good luck!!!!

Ken, It is a bit more complicated than that.

If you are making CDS yourself by the Humble procedure and letting it go the full 2 hours (not assuming that because the most of the bubbles go in the first 30 minutes, that it's done) - then your dose would be .5mL = 3 drops of MMS1.

If you are making CDS at home by the Andreas procedure, using only a 30 minute time, and not careful to see that the temperature in the mix bottle is a constant 150 degrees, and that the receiving bottle is iced down, all the up the sides of the bottle (iow, not just sitting in ice about 1 or 2 inches0 then your dose would be 1mL = 3 drops of MMS1

You also have to use the same measurements/proportions of MMS/CA to receiving fluid (water of saline) that Jim used or that Andreas used when making their CDS. In other words, if you are doing the Andreas protocol, follow it exactly. If you're doing the Humble protocol, follow it exactly.

If you are purchasing CDS from a trusted retailer, such as Steve at Keavy's Corner, they will have standardized their process and they will send you instructions on what the dosing for that bottle is.


So, if you are using the humble method, where it is .5mL for 3 drops, and you wanted a 3 drop dose for each hour, in a bottle marked off in 8 segments, you would need 8 x .5ml or 4mL of that CDS in the bottle, and then fill the rest with water.

And, obviously, if you were using the Andreas method of creating CDS, where 1mL - 3 drops, you would need twice as much, or 8mL to get your 24 drops.

I hope this helps.

keng11 wrote:

Hi,

Regarding the CDS dosage, do we use the same dose as in MMS1 using 3 drops of CDS into the amount of water eg: using 1 litre bottle marked of in 8 increments & 24drops of CDS, is this correct or has it changed? could I get some clarification on the dose for CDS please?

Thank you for your assistance.

Regards

Ken.

Lulu - two things - it's hard to know what your dose equivalent of your CDS actually is, if you didn't do the full 2 hours. With a larger mixing bottle more gas stays on the mixing side so some doesn't move over - these all affect the dosing equivalent - certainly not saying yours is bad, just that it may not be the .5mL=3drops of mms1. And that may not matter to you.

I was only able to find one make of 2oz baby bottles here - it is called a "premie bottle" and specific for premature babies.

I'm glad the thermal imaging caught your cancer - so much better to know what you're working with.

You could make a CDS skin spray (although, you really need to know what the drop equivalent of your mixture is) - but I'm not sure I would recommend it. Let me tell you why I think that. The "active" part of the CDS solution is the gas that forms from the mixture of MMS and citric acid and gets infused into the cold water or saline solution. As soon as the holding solution gets to 52 degrees F, it starts to off-gas from the water or saline, into the air.

The CDS skin spray would be more likely to have the CDS gas off, as soon as it hits the warm skin/air, and not be absorbed, IMHO, unless you "force" it down with something like DMSO - and even then I'm not sure how much would go. For a skin spray I used the old mms1 activated formula that Jim has on his website. Since it's more impervious to temperature changes, I can even keep it in the bathroom cabinet. If you want to get the gas into the skin (like they do with MRSA) you might try the cup method - I think that would be much more effective.

I"m not saying "don't do it" - just that I"m not sure it will be effective - you will need to make your own decisions, of course.

The saline in Andreas' video was because they were injecting it - you need to use saline to inject. Andreas was using it in a veterinary application, with cows that, because of their stomachs, cannot take regular mms1.

Good luck with your skin cancer -