I think there is no need to worry about the plastic unless the plastic cannot withstand CDS like cracking and ect... other than that... CDS can eliminate most toxic including plastic toxic....

CDS is toxic removal... so most material will not be bring harm and only need to avoid metal goods to be use for CDS....

Had a question about this new method. Is the activated MMS left in the bottle still have some uses or is it completely lost of all its chlorine dioxide after the gas had been pumped into the saline solution?

Hi Jegz,

In regard to your question about what happens with the chlorous acid part of an MMS1 dose once it gets inside the body, I don't have an answer. I don't recall seeing Jim address that. He has been more focused on the chlorine dioxide since that is the active ingredient.

I have heard that the chlorous acid is unstable and reacts quickly and some of it becomes chlorine dioxide, but I think it has not really been studied like chlorine dioxide has.

Michael

Hi rondellejones,

In response to your question about plastics, my two bottles are PET. See the pics of my 'quickie' set up (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=16&id=8260&limit=6&limitstart=6&Itemid=66#8282). Right after generating, the smaller bottle that had the MMS and HCl activator is yellow, but after exposure to the air for a few days it goes back to clear. I do not see any pitting in it at all, nor in the other clear PET bottle for receiving the gas.

The tubing I am using looks to me like it is HDPE it is a translucent whitish (just like 'natural' hdpe), and is quite stiff. I have not noticed any pitting with it. It is yellow right after generation but then after a few days in the air it clears up again. I think it is food grade because it is the same tubing they sell for installing icemakers. At home depot (lowes too I am sure) it comes in a 25' roll and is pretty cheap. The label says "Watts" is the maker: "polyethylene tubing 1/4" x .170" x 25 ft."

I have generated twice now, 800 ml and 1000 ml and have not noticed any pitting of the plastic, and in fact the plastic looks good.

I do want to work on a glass setup. If someone finds sourcing for this, please post some links.

Thanks,

Michael

Hi rondellejones,

I prefer glass bottles. For the tubbing, I guess plastic is ok, because once the gas goes through, you can wash it with running water, and also the corks.
See, I don't mind drinking some wine with some little scraps of cork in the bottle, but I would definitely mind drinking MMS with toxic rubber residue
Just a suggestion

Thanks to all of you for sharing your methods and ideas. I've used MMS for quite some time but I can not get my spouse to use it b/c she can not stand the smell or taste. Any time I make any she refers to it as "your poison". LOL

She HAS noticed that I have not been sick in 2 years so if I can get her to tolerate a form of the MMS then she can see what it feels like to have freedom from sickness.

In regards to making the CDS, since the chemicals seem to be very powerful, I am concerned about using plastic. I noticed a few of you on here have the same concerns. For example someone mentioned pitting of the plastic tubing.

I am excited to make my first batch of this but it will take me longer to source all glass materials, especially the glass tubing. I am considering using plastics for my first batch.

For those of you that are more experienced in working with MMS/CDS using plastic, which types of plastics are the best to use?

Just looking around the house, most of the plastic bottles I see are PET. Would that be ok? Some heavier plastic containers are made of HDPE...

Thanks!

pam wrote:

I thought about that, but also was concerned about metal lids. You can, however, get plastic lids for the canning jars.

I am using the stoppers from the wine making store, the ones with holes in them. (I had bought a bunch to use to make sauerkraut-making kits for friends for Christmas) - The holes exactly hold 3/8 inch tubing from the hardware store. So, it's either slip a venting needle (whatever is used) in with the 3/8 inch tubing, or drill a small hold in the stopper to hold the venting needle. I may well go the second route.

When I get my first batch done, will do photos and post here. We have some grand opportunities to share our ideas - I am hoping others will share their photos, like Michael did.
Pam

Just finished making mine with 1/4 inch black rigid tubbing from Home Depot (couldn't get clear, because they had only soft tubbing) and I used cork stoppers! Really cheap.
Here's the pic. Doesn't show the "Basketball Needle" for releasing pressure. I put that in after the picture was taken.

On my way to Home Depot NOW!

You undoubtedly are right. As I said, my response is totally emotional Next batch will be in distilled water.

pam wrote:

but my "emotional" reaction is that maybe with the saline in there, there's something for the CD to "hang onto."

Hi Pam,

I believe the Chlorine Dioxide gas will bind to the water molecules. So as long as it's tightly closed in a container and kept in a dark/cool place, it should last a long time.
I think I read that or saw a video. Can't recall if it was Jim Humble or Andreas who mentioned that.

Yeah, either/or works fine, you just HAVE to have saline for injections. I am so NOT a chemist, and I certainly don't understand the gas suspended in water (seems to me like the gas bubbles would go to the top of the liquid) - but my "emotional" reaction is that maybe with the saline in there, there's something for the CD to "hang onto." - I am NOT trying to encourage/discourage anyone from making their own decision - remember, I don't know. Just sharing my thoughts on it.

kwag wrote:

Why saline and not distilled water?
I understand the saline for IV use, but for drinking, couldn't we just use distilled water?

EDIT: Never mind. Just read Jim's post, where he prefers distilled water.
So I guess distilled water will be for me

Thanks

Why saline and not distilled water?
I understand the saline for IV use, but for drinking, couldn't we just use distilled water?

EDIT: Never mind. Just read Jim's post, where he prefers distilled water.
So I guess distilled water will be for me

Thanks

To all who have read this threads... i would appeal to all reader who's possibility could benefits from knowing this new development of CDS to at least contribute some kind of monetery fund to the Genesis II Church so that they will have enough funds to carry on their research findings for the benefits of all your family and friends... i believed any small amount will make a big difference... also a way to say thank you to Genesis II Church....

Genesis II Church trying to train many to help the world but for those who only wishes to learn for own benefits should at least contribute some donations so that everyone will benefits from Bishop Jim movements to save mankind...

Here is the donation link Genesis II Church of Health & Healing

* Please be inform that the donation link i have provided above is no longer active... i have tried in making my donation and is refunded by Genesis II Church.

Dr. Tullio Simoncini believed that most cancer have some related to Candida albicans.

Base on the report obtained from research team... CD can indeed stop this fungus from spreading.... This is a good news for using CDS... because we now have a pure CD with no unknown leftover... maybe it can also help in fungus problems compare to before where Bishop Jim always said MMS1 may not work well in fungus matter....

Here is the link report Plasma membrane damage to Candida albicans caused by chlorine dioxide (ClO2).

I begin to believed we can go at a very high dose of CDS.... so far my uric acid pain in the feet angkle was healed in only two days using CDS but no symptoms at all even though i can feel it is much stronger than MMS1...

I am going to go at higher dosage soon....

The only Fungus that CD may failed is Colonies of S. chartarum were still toxic after treatment. The rest of the fungus will have no problems from CD.

Here is the link report Effect of chlorine dioxide gas on fungi and mycotoxins associated with sick building syndrome.

I didnt know that. so how does the chlorous acid get out of your system. i know chlorine dioxide turns into oxygen and salt.

Hi Jegz,

Good observation. I think some of the nausea/diarrhea/bad feelings are caused by die off and healing and some of it is caused by the chlorous acid that is mixed in with the chlorine dioxide in your normal MMS1 dose. Probably some people will experience a certain amount of bad feelings with CDS.

Some people don't experience the bad feelings with MMS1, but then there are plenty out there like me who do. Each of us are individuals and the more tools we have at our disposal, the more effective we can be, and find something that works for each individual.

I could not even go over 1 drop an hour on MMS1 until we found out about adding DMSO to the doses. Once I added DMSO to the doses, then it completely eliminated the nausea for me. The CDS appears to be an even better tool for me and probably others; it is a much purer form of chlorine dioxide.

Jim has been saying all along that chlorine dioxide is the active ingredient in the MMS1, and I think he is right. But the normal MMS1 dose is a mix of chlorous acid and chlorine dioxide. That chlorous acid component appears to be the cause at least in part of at least some people's bad symptoms.

So far the limited reports on the CDS are from people who have already taken MMS1. We may find that new users who start taking CDS end up having more of the unpleasant reactions due to die-off/healing.

We have a lot to learn, but this is another great tool.

Michael

Michael wrote:

Thank you very much Edwin and Pam for the AWESOME reports and photos!!!

It is very helpful to have all the detail. Just goes to show anyone anywhere can do this if we just put a little effort into it.

I have been taking the CDS hourly for the last several days and it is working beautifully, no nausea and no diarrhea, even when I took about ten 1 tsp. doses in a day.

The world needs CDS! The more of us that can make it and distribute it, the better off everyone will be. Especially where we run into a lot of nausea and diarrhea problems, this is the solution.

Keep up the great work dear friends!

Michael

But i thought the nausea is as a result of toxins getting out of one's system. does this mean that cds is the solution to nausea and diarrhoea and all the bad feelings that prevent peeps from taking MMS in the first place?