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05 Dec 2011 05:09
Bill	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 05:04
Bill	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Kalcker alone have proved that 50% citric acid is NOT the correct ratio now. It's actually around 33%. Maybe, who am I to say BUT I am pretty sure Kalcker did an equal 50/50 split when he mixed sodium chlorite and the citic acid together but if you say 33% then it must be true somewhere in some video -- how enlightening of you. Even Jim did a 50/50 split -- anyway it seems like everyone wants to follow there own path and that is fine. BUT remember -- I was just trying to keep it simple for the masses -- not for all you smart people. Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 05:04

Bill

CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team

Kalcker alone have proved that 50% citric acid is NOT the correct ratio now. It's actually around 33%.

Maybe, who am I to say BUT I am pretty sure Kalcker did an equal 50/50 split when he mixed sodium chlorite and the citic acid together but if you say 33% then it must be true somewhere in some video -- how enlightening of you.

Even Jim did a 50/50 split -- anyway it seems like everyone wants to follow there own path and that is fine.

BUT remember -- I was just trying to keep it simple for the masses -- not for all you smart people.

Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 04:49
Truthquester	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Hi Bill, Your posts are appreciated but you might want to look up the definition of "forum". I think that should clear things up quite a bit and you'll see that your comments about keeping silent and only listening to one person don't really fit the definition of what a forum is, and especially don't fit the definition of an "open forum", which this is. You're right, this can make things confusing but at least things are written down, pictured and even recorded in video so that we all can re-read, re-look and re-watch if there is any confusion in our minds. May you be well, Scott Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 04:49

Truthquester

CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team

Hi Bill,

Your posts are appreciated but you might want to look up the definition of "forum". I think that should clear things up quite a bit and you'll see that your comments about keeping silent and only listening to one person don't really fit the definition of what a forum is, and especially don't fit the definition of an "open forum", which this is. You're right, this can make things confusing but at least things are written down, pictured and even recorded in video so that we all can re-read, re-look and re-watch if there is any confusion in our minds.

May you be well,
Scott

Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 04:43
orv	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Pam did you find a store that has the 2 oz GLASS bottles ? I've been to wallmart and they don't and Fred Myers and safeway and many others. I just watched Jim's video again and he says not to use any thing larger than 2 oz for the mms and acid bottle. Thanks Orv in Portland or. Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 04:31
kwag	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Bill wrote: Kalcker is not leading this movement Jim Humble is and it is certainly not you. BEEEEP! WRONG! Kalcker is REFINING the process, for the better, and not for the worse. Go and look at some of his recent research on Chlorine Dioxide, and you'll see some changes specially on the % of Citric Acid, where his research (actually their studies, because it's more people involved than Kalcker alone) have proved that 50% citric acid is NOT the correct ratio now. It's actually around 33%. Can't point to the correct video now, but look for it on youtube, so there's some recent new data on this. I'm fine with Jim's protocols, but I'm also open to refinements, and I see that Kalckers refinements are correct and positive. I'm not going to follow any "Movement". I'm going to follow the "Correct" and logical path to experimentation and refinements on these methods. I will not stay "stuck" on a protocol, if it can be further improved, as this is the case with the CDS developed BY Andreas Kalcker and two other scientists. Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 04:31

kwag

CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team

Bill wrote:
Kalcker is not leading this movement Jim Humble is and it is certainly not you.

BEEEEP! WRONG!

Kalcker is REFINING the process, for the better, and not for the worse.
Go and look at some of his recent research on Chlorine Dioxide, and you'll see some changes specially on the % of Citric Acid, where his research (actually their studies, because it's more people involved than Kalcker alone) have proved that 50% citric acid is NOT the correct ratio now. It's actually around 33%. Can't point to the correct video now, but look for it on youtube, so there's some recent new data on this.
I'm fine with Jim's protocols, but I'm also open to refinements, and I see that Kalckers refinements are correct and positive.
I'm not going to follow any "Movement". I'm going to follow the "Correct" and logical path to experimentation and refinements on these methods. I will not stay "stuck" on a protocol, if it can be further improved, as this is the case with the CDS developed BY Andreas Kalcker and two other scientists.

Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 03:08
pam	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team I have now gone back and reviewed Jim Humble's video. He stated he liked to use the 4 oz bottles because they fit well in the fridge. He said to use any bottle that has a good tight fitting lid on top. I could not tell that his lids on his bottles were dropper lids. He never at any point indicated a dosing equivalent, just that he wanted, through that video, for us to see how HE did it, and the reasons why (such as using the small 2 oz bottle). He did indicate, earlier in the video, that people would be best starting with his way, and then they could find better ways, if they wished. The thing I liked about his way is that he is using ounces vs mLs or cc's which does make it simpler. Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 03:08

CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team

I have now gone back and reviewed Jim Humble's video. He stated he liked to use the 4 oz bottles because they fit well in the fridge. He said to use any bottle that has a good tight fitting lid on top. I could not tell that his lids on his bottles were dropper lids.

He never at any point indicated a dosing equivalent, just that he wanted, through that video, for us to see how HE did it, and the reasons why (such as using the small 2 oz bottle).

He did indicate, earlier in the video, that people would be best starting with his way, and then they could find better ways, if they wished. The thing I liked about his way is that he is using ounces vs mLs or cc's which does make it simpler.

Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 02:37
Bill	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team PAM You have been on this forum for 17 days as of today and you already have about 78 posts that is averaging 5 posts a day. Why is it that there are some people that feel the need to get involved and comment on eveyone elses threads all the time? I was trying to keep it all simple as is Jim Humble but you can't see that simple fact and that is exactly why it has to be kept simple. Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 02:37

Bill

CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team

PAM

You have been on this forum for 17 days as of today and you already have about 78 posts that is averaging 5 posts a day.

Why is it that there are some people that feel the need to get involved and comment on eveyone elses threads all the time?

I was trying to keep it all simple as is Jim Humble but you can't see that simple fact and that is exactly why it has to be kept simple.

Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 02:26
pam	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Oh, Bill, I have absolutely no intention of staying silent, but I also am not going to fight with you. And I am not at all upset or worried that you are ticked. Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 02:16
Bill	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team PAM ! QUOTE: You can do it as you wish, but do us all a favor and please don't try to force the rest of the forum to follow your beliefs. This talk is absolutely uncalled for and don't speak as if you are talking for anyone other then yourself! !! I am only repeating what Jim Humbles has said to do. Kalcker is not leading this movement Jim Humble is the Bishop. Follow who you wish to follow but there should only be one voice so to eliminate the confusion. People with deeper understanding can change things as it pleases them but I know Jim is trying to keep things safe. There is a lot at stake if someone gets hurt as will cause a lot of bad press and it would give the FDA the fuel that it has been looking for. Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 02:16

Bill

CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team

PAM !
QUOTE: You can do it as you wish, but do us all a favor and please don't try to force the rest of the forum to follow your beliefs.

This talk is absolutely uncalled for and don't speak as if you are talking for anyone other then yourself! !!

I am only repeating what Jim Humbles has said to do. Kalcker is not leading this movement Jim Humble is the Bishop.

Follow who you wish to follow but there should only be one voice so to eliminate the confusion.

People with deeper understanding can change things as it pleases them but I know Jim is trying to keep things safe. There is a lot at stake if someone gets hurt as will cause a lot of bad press and it would give the FDA the fuel that it has been looking for.

Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 01:18
pam	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Go back and review the Kalcker video. He did not. He said cc - 1 cc equals 3 drops of MMS - at 8:23 on the video. What he did not say was how many drops from HIS dropper bottle were a cc. And since dropper bottles can all have different sizes of orifices, using a cc measure makes more sense to me. Jim put the solution into 4oz bottles - he likes the 4 oz bottles, he said, and I can understand why. If you've got the CDS separated, you expose a portion of it to air less by using each bottle separately. But I'm not going to read his mind on why HE likes the 4 oz bottles. You can do it as you wish, but do us all a favor and please don't try to force the rest of the forum to follow your beliefs. <G> Bill wrote: I believe Andreas Kalcker mentioned 3 drops of MMS equal 6 drops of CDS per his method and his measurements, but again, Jim never mentioned this. Why, because Jim had it measured out with his 1oz of sodiuom chlorite and 1oz citric acid going into an 8oz bottle over two hours. This was then transfered into two 4oz dropper bottles. I say we do it Jim's way and treat the CDS the same as MMS drop wise. Never mind about ml, go back to using the drops and KEEP IT SIMPLE. Follow Jim and his team -- we need one voice and one leader. Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 01:18

CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team

Go back and review the Kalcker video. He did not. He said cc - 1 cc equals 3 drops of MMS - at 8:23 on the video. What he did not say was how many drops from HIS dropper bottle were a cc. And since dropper bottles can all have different sizes of orifices, using a cc measure makes more sense to me.

Jim put the solution into 4oz bottles - he likes the 4 oz bottles, he said, and I can understand why. If you've got the CDS separated, you expose a portion of it to air less by using each bottle separately. But I'm not going to read his mind on why HE likes the 4 oz bottles.

You can do it as you wish, but do us all a favor and please don't try to force the rest of the forum to follow your beliefs. <G>

Bill wrote:
I believe Andreas Kalcker mentioned 3 drops of MMS equal 6 drops of CDS per his method and his measurements, but again, Jim never mentioned this. Why, because Jim had it measured out with his 1oz of sodiuom chlorite and 1oz citric acid going into an 8oz bottle over two hours. This was then transfered into two 4oz dropper bottles. I say we do it Jim's way and treat the CDS the same as MMS drop wise. Never mind about ml, go back to using the drops and KEEP IT SIMPLE.

Follow Jim and his team -- we need one voice and one leader.

Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 00:35
Bill	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Jim had it measured out with his 1oz of sodiuom chlorite and 1oz citric acid going into an 8oz bottle over two hours. This was then transfered into two 4oz dropper bottles. IMO we should do it Jim's way and treat the CDS the same as MMS drop wise. Never mind about ml, go back to using the drops and KEEP IT SIMPLE. For most people we should follow Jim and his team -- we do need one voice and one leader. Category: Technical talk: CDS

05 Dec 2011 00:35

Bill

CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team

Jim had it measured out with his 1oz of sodiuom chlorite and 1oz citric acid going into an 8oz bottle over two hours. This was then transfered into two 4oz dropper bottles. IMO we should do it Jim's way and treat the CDS the same as MMS drop wise. Never mind about ml, go back to using the drops and KEEP IT SIMPLE. :woohoo:

For most people we should follow Jim and his team -- we do need one voice and one leader.

Category: Technical talk: CDS

04 Dec 2011 23:19
pam	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Bill wrote: Pam, Jim never mentioned this in his video. Therefore, we need clarification from Jim. There were several things Jim didn't mention - and I'm sure that if someone had been there to nudge his elbow, he would have. He obviously was not working from a script, and when you do that, you tend to forget to mention things. Both Andreas and Mark have mentioned mLs. Andreas' video was posted on Jim's YouTube channel, I'm pretty sure it would not have been, had Jim been in disagreement with what he was saying. Mark's is on his FB channel www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150991514880160 - and he is a prominent member of "jim's team" Category: Technical talk: CDS

04 Dec 2011 23:19

CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team

Bill wrote:
Pam, Jim never mentioned this in his video. Therefore, we need clarification from Jim.

There were several things Jim didn't mention - and I'm sure that if someone had been there to nudge his elbow, he would have. He obviously was not working from a script, and when you do that, you tend to forget to mention things. Both Andreas and Mark have mentioned mLs. Andreas' video was posted on Jim's YouTube channel, I'm pretty sure it would not have been, had Jim been in disagreement with what he was saying. Mark's is on his FB channel www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10150991514880160 - and he is a prominent member of "jim's team"

Category: Technical talk: CDS

04 Dec 2011 22:55
kwag	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Bill wrote: Pam, Jim never mentioned this in his video. Therefore, we need clarification from Jim. Andreas Kalcker clearly mentions it on the original video. Category: Technical talk: CDS

04 Dec 2011 22:14
Bill	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Pam, Jim never mentioned this in his video. Therefore, we need clarification from Jim. Category: Technical talk: CDS

04 Dec 2011 21:57
pam	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Calgaryjml wrote: The only question I have about CDS, is how to use the newly created product? Is it intended to be used as with familiar protocols? The 2 4oz bottles that are created....are we assuming this just becomes the new source for the drops we typically use...example protocol 1000, 3 drops per hour...Im assuming thats 3 drops of the CDS we just learned to make...is that the idea? 3 drops that we mix with water or juice and drink? Just that the taste now wont be as bad? No, Calgaryjml - the new CDS is measured in mLs - typically it has been 1 mL is equal to 3 or 4 drops of MMS, activated. Here you just take 1mL of CDS, put it in some water, and you're good to go. I use a 3mL syringe that I have removed and discarded the needle. I pull up 1mL and drop it into a shotglass full of water. Category: Technical talk: CDS

04 Dec 2011 21:57

CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team

Calgaryjml wrote:
The only question I have about CDS, is how to use the newly created product? Is it intended to be used as with familiar protocols? The 2 4oz bottles that are created....are we assuming this just becomes the new source for the drops we typically use...example protocol 1000, 3 drops per hour...Im assuming thats 3 drops of the CDS we just learned to make...is that the idea? 3 drops that we mix with water or juice and drink? Just that the taste now wont be as bad?

No, Calgaryjml - the new CDS is measured in mLs - typically it has been 1 mL is equal to 3 or 4 drops of MMS, activated.

Here you just take 1mL of CDS, put it in some water, and you're good to go. I use a 3mL syringe that I have removed and discarded the needle. I pull up 1mL and drop it into a shotglass full of water.

Category: Technical talk: CDS

04 Dec 2011 21:25
orv	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Thanks Bill for the simple list. I saw Jims new video and it also was simple. We have different types of people here. Some are much more educated than others, and some need only simple instructions. IN fact more need the simple instructions. Everyone just think about it. Thanks Bill Category: Technical talk: CDS

04 Dec 2011 20:36
Bill	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team yes -- that is what I understand to be correct Category: Technical talk: CDS

04 Dec 2011 20:29
Moyra T	CDS Quality Control-Slow Down Folks-Lets work together with Jim's Team Hi Bill Thank you, this simple information is appreciated. Moyra T Category: Technical talk: CDS

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