lmao @ "as seen on tv "

and perhaps a pump may in order, since the heat produces more gas
than perhaps I could keep up with by puffing....

kw

But which is stronger MMS or CDS

I usually suggest that if people can do MMS1, that they do it and save CDS for those who have exteme aversions or allergies to citric acid. We are still learning the uses of CDS - MMS includes some other things, such as hypochlorus acid, and they MAY have some additional healing efficacy - remember, we did MMS for more than 10 years before CDS came along -

People have been successful with CDS, don't get me wrong, cancers have been healed, and yes herpes2 has been healed - but CDS is just the chlorine dioxide - doesn't have any of the other stuff.

Plus, if one is sexually active, the chance of reinfection is high, since so many in the population have HSV and don't know they have it (i.e., carriers, only).

I don't know what the dosing is that your son was doing at the higher doses - I'm assuming that the 1200 is actually 12000.

I don't recognize "MMSforHealth" as a supplier. It's not on the approved OR unapproved supplier list. The website is interesting, because it says CDS has no smell - ummmmm - NOT, LOL.

I read on www.mmsdrops.com/cds/ that 1 ml of CDS (3000ppm) = 3 drops MMS. Does this mean that MMS is stronger than CDS? My son used MMS for 1 month then switched to CDS in February. In April he switched to CDS 6000 and in September CDS 1200.

He used these CDS products (3000; 6000; and 1200) 12 to 18 hours per day including MMS2 (protocol 2000) as well as protocol 3000. Improvement has been seen however after more than 10 months the HSV is still active.

My son thought CDS was stronger but I always said MMS is stronger. Could that be the reason he has not won his battle with HSV2? Is CDS not as strong as MMS? We also eliminated sugar and refined flour from his diet. His carbs come in the form of vegetables and beans primarily. Please advise.

KennethWalter wrote:

kwag,

Loved the video.

I had no idea there was powder out there!

Thanks Kenneth
The Sodium Chlorite comes in two forms. Powdered and in flakes. The one I have is the flakes.
The citric acid I use is powdered. I think it's the only way it's produced.

I too would like to know the ppm on that....and it sure looked like Pam said, enuf left for another bottle....or possibly 2.

Yep. As I said before, there is some left, but we use it in the bathroom

I have a similar setup, but no aquarium pump.

Get one!
It speeds your process from 20 minutes to 3 "As seen on TV (tm)"

I have a large mug I'll pre-heat then add hot water, then insert glass baby bottle with mms/citric acid, and the poly receiver bottle, fiji water, will come right out of the fridge, which I'll have to poke a relief hole, I was gonna use a small microfiber to slow the release of gas, but not stop the release of gas. I suppose same difference.

Poke the tiny hole on the cap. It's also cheaper that sticking a needle on the cap
And the hot water helps a lot forcing the gas out. I just stick that Pyrex measuring cup with water in the microwave for 30 to 45 seconds, and that's it.

And to all, remember to ventilate your area!!!
Specially when you are done and you open the baby bottle!
Make sure it's in the open, or you'll get a chlorine dioxide gas slap on your face and nose that you'll never forget ( or you'll remember for a couple of days! )

pam wrote:

A question, Karl - by my estimation, you might be able to get another bottle, since you still have all that dark brown stuff in the mixing bottle. Have you tried for a second bottle? Just move the cap with hose over to a new bottle,

Hi Pam,

Yes, I have done it in the past, but now I just take what's left in the baby bottle and put it in a 32oz glass bottle and fill it up with tap water.
We put that in the bathroom and use it as mouthwash.
When I make a gallon, there's not enough left to make any more, so I also take what's left and use it in the bathroom.

and

Also, what is the ppm in your first receiving bottle?

One thing I've learned making up to 12,500ppm, is that "fully saturated" is a relative term <G>.

Thanks for this - good show!

Can't tell, but I guarantee that it's fully saturated.
However, one thing I mentioned (can't recall now if it was here or on my forum) is that apparently the saturation of chlorine dioxide in water depends on atmospheric pressure. So I'm at sea level, and probably I get a different saturation than people at higher altitudes. I can't confirm this. Maybe someone at a high altitude (Denver, Colorado. Anyone?) could try this and measure the PPM, and then someone at sea level can measure and post the readings? I don't have any test strips on hand now, so I can't meassure it.

There are some errors and a lack of precision in the language of that newsletter, but I would say MMS1 and MMS Classic are the same thing, just different terms for the same thing. Second paragraph in the newsletter has this quote, "He was self-treating himself with MMS classic, (MMS1), after a good friend of his sent him MMS."

The newsletter is from Mark Grenon, not Jim. When they say "MMS1 or MMS Classic" they are not signifying two different things but only two different terms for the same substance.

I think "MMS Classic" is used to distinguish it from MMS2 or CDS or MMS with Baking soda, if Mark uses MMS with baking soda, and I don't know if he does.

Michael

CLO2 wrote:

Thanks Karl.

For those who want to download the video from YouTube, the English on-screen text may not be included with your downloaded video. It was absent from my download.

So, I did a screen audio-video capture and re-posted the video here:

mmsinfo.org/videos/cds_in_three_minutes.mp4

Thanks for that!

Karl, what was the concentration in PPM of the CDS in the video? Looks like the receiver might be a 500 ml bottle?

--Charlotte

Dont have any idea, as I don't have test strips. It's fully saturated, though.

Martin, I don't. Unless MMS Classic is with baking soda, but that was MMS Basic. Haven't the faintest idea what JH is talking about here.

Barbara wrote:

my son is in a college dorm. says that the water taste bad. he has a hard time taking mms due to the bad taste. we are looking at water purification devices for him at college. does mms purify the water at low doses so u dont get that awful taste. does it remove inpurities including flouride? any help anyone could give us would be great. thanks barbara

Barbara,

Have him switch to CDS, and the taste issue will be over with.

And as far as I know, you need a special filter to remove fluoride...the mms will not do that, not that I know of.

You should be able to find a triple filter online, at amazon, that will improve taste and leave minerals and cut fluoride too....about 300.00

kwag,

Loved the video.

I had no idea there was powder out there!

I too would like to know the ppm on that....and it sure looked like Pam said, enuf left for another bottle....or possibly 2.

I have a similar setup, but no aquarium pump.

I have a large mug I'll pre-heat then add hot water, then insert glass baby bottle with mms/citric acid, and the poly receiver bottle, fiji water, will come right out of the fridge, which I'll have to poke a relief hole, I was gonna use a small microfiber to slow the release of gas, but not stop the release of gas. I suppose same difference.

Pam: A poser for you (in your spare time )

I followed your link to Micheal's site. He quotes the newsletter (which I had read skimmingly).

mmsnews.is/all-newsletters/136-mms-cds-and-hiv-update-10-21-2012.html

"1st Week Aug.9th, 2012
MMS1 or MMS Classic 3 drops per hour every two hours 14 hrs a day"

There appears to be a "MMS1" and a "MMS Classic" (which I would have thought were the same) Other wise the instructions of " 3 drops per hour every two hours " don't make any sense.

Do you know the difference between MMS1 and MMS Classic?

my son is in a college dorm. says that the water taste bad. he has a hard time taking mms due to the bad taste. we are looking at water purification devices for him at college. does mms purify the water at low doses so u dont get that awful taste. does it remove inpurities including flouride? any help anyone could give us would be great. thanks barbara

Why not wait until the book comes out with the directions, MMSUser?

That said, I've not seen the answer to your question published, that will be a Andreas question, I'm guessing. All the information on CDI that we've been able to glean from the various things published can be found on Michael Harrah's page:
www.michaelharrah.us/index.php/Table/CDS-Technologies/CDI-Chlorine-Dioxide-Injectable/

Michael has been very thorough at gathering what's currently available.
Pam

A question, Karl - by my estimation, you might be able to get another bottle, since you still have all that dark brown stuff in the mixing bottle. Have you tried for a second bottle? Just move the cap with hose over to a new bottle, and

Also, what is the ppm in your first receiving bottle?

One thing I've learned making up to 12,500ppm, is that "fully saturated" is a relative term <G>.

Thanks for this - good show!

Dear , thanks so much . u do not know , how it is diffical to perches mms online for me

but now with ur great job , i do not need to buy , it is so easy to make at home .

PARVIN

when using CDS intravenouly can I use distilled water or do I mix it with saline solution like mms

The video is in Spanish, but has English text notes during the complete session. It's 6 minutes long.



Enjoy!


EDIT: For some reason, I can't put the link in correctly. So change the dot for a .

Mods. Please correct the link to the video.

Here's the link on my site: forum.mmspr.net/index.php?t=msg&th=476&start=0&