Lina,

CDS is chlorine dioxide solution...the result of the mms+activation, captured in cold water.

The mixture for this process, is put into a baby bottle which is sitting in hot water which creates a gas. The baby bottle has 2 holes, one for the pump and the other to go to the receiver bottle of cold water with one hole in the cap for the tube going to the bottom of the bottle and a tiny hole for venting. The pump speeds up the process of sending the gas into the receiver bottle and so does the heat.

Folks report being less nauseous or not nauseous at all using this....for a more pleasant experience.

kw

Petunia,

just a thought about your slow internet.

u may want to visit your library with a usb flash drive and utilize the speed at the library to download
those larger files that slow u down. Or pay at a fedex kinkos or whatever u folks down-under got that is similar to that to get your larger files. That's what I had to do.

best wishes

kw

fourfingerz wrote:

Just a post to bring the thread back to the recent activity list.

New users needing inspiration on the performance of CDS / CDI / MMS protocols (and heroic investment of a man's time , effort, and determination) with a very very sick calf (20 % chance of survival as assessed by the farmer) should follow this one.

Another month without drgreen and reports on Calvin. I hope he and Calvin are doing fine and not nefarious interference from TPTB.

Thanks for the replies. I was hoping to make 3000ppm CDS since that's what I've been buying and it's easy to put 8ml in an 8oz glass baby bottle for each of us to take throughout the day (1 oz each hour). With the suggested shot glass method, how much works out to this dosage (which I understand is equivalent to 3 drops MMS)?

I haven't tried to make it yet, as I'm still working on getting the things I'll need.

What about the method with the aquarium pump (which I do have)? Will that make a 3,000 ppm solution?

Thanks

I am new. What is CDS?

Petunia, 0-500 is all we use for testing. If you haven't figured out how to do it, let me know. How you test depends on what how you make your solution (now) -

Hi, I'm pretty new to MMS and CDS. With three of us taking the CDS I've been buying (MMS made us too nauseous), I need to learn how to make this soon, but I'm really confused as to the best/easiest approach.

First, regarding testing the strength, I ordered the Lamotte strips as suggested (the Australia supplier said it only measures up tp 500ppm), but I'm wondering how this is meant to test for 3,000ppm or higher.

I understand there are different methods, many shown on YouTube, but my internet's not fast or consistent enough to see these. Is there some other site which compares the methods and gives clear instructions (preferably with photos)?

The method described in Jim's book, requires items (glass baby bottles in particular sizes) that are going to be hard for me to find. And I'd prefer not to have to buy a hot plate (not even sure how this differs from a stovetop) or floor fan. I do have an aquarium pump, but am not sure what is meant by the references to the stones.

What would be the best method in terms of making a simple 3,000ppm solution (that I could test with Gatoraid assuming I can find it) that's relatively simple, safe (won't easily explode if "explored" by curious children), and requires a minimum of expensive or hard-to-find equipment?

Or perhaps I just haven't found the right place to look on this website. Thanks for any help provided.

Petunia

1/2 a size 0 capsule is the max size of dose, taken 4-5 x a day, every 2 hours. If you're doing CDS in the 12drop equivalent dose, you can certainly increase it. Andreas Kalcker is suggesting as much as 10mL doses - and I know someone who is that high. Again, increase gently, not all at once.

Thank you Pam.
One more question. As I'm taking 12 drops of MMS per day & am working my way up to 1/2 a capsule of MMS2, once I reach taking 1/2 a capsule of MMS2, should I then increase dosage of both or remain steady at both?

I read on this site that it does not destroy intestinal friendly flora, however they do recommend taking probiotics and other supplements, especially 1000 mg Vit. C 2 hrs. after the last treatment of the day. Antioxidants are helpful to avoid oxidative stress.

I don't know how much ppm your CDS is - that's the question. If it's 3000 ppm, then you're going to do 4mL of CDS to equal your 12 drops of MMS1.

Jim's video is to make a daily batch, 8 four-ounce servings. In this video he is using equal drops to the dosing - IOW, he's saying that if you were to do 3 drops an hour for 8 hours, it would be 24 drops of MMS and CA. If you're doing 12 drops an hour, you would need to do 12x8 = 96 drops of MMS and CA for the daily dose. You would be better off to measure it in MLs, that would be 4mL of MMS and 4mL of citric acid, (Use 2 syringes to measure - one for CA and one for MMS.) Then you put that in the baby bottle and blow it across. Then you have 8 four-ounce doses of CDS equal to your 12 drop MMS dose.

If you have already made up a batch using his 24 drop measurement, then you need to drink 16 oz of that CDS to equal your 12 drop MMS dose.

The most important thing you need to do is to stay on your protocol until you get your results.

One does not need to change to CDS unless you have problems with MMS protocol.

Dont make yourself confuse. Unless you just want to feel on each MMS or CDS protocol.

I’m currently on Protocol 2000. Am taking 12 drops a day of MMS. Also taking MMS2, still working up to maximum amount – tomorrow will be taking 5 capsules at 2 hour intervals which will be almost ¼ full. I’m doing fine with no side effects to date on MMS2
Re: CDS – made it according to the following Jim Humble You Tube video.

Is this the right formula for me?
I am also confused as to how much CDS equals one activated drop of MMS, or, to be more specific, how much CDS to do I take to replace my activated 12 drops of MMS that I am currently taking?
Thank you.

As I understand, MMS (or CDS) kills all pathogens, similar to oil of oregano only stronger. Oil of oregano does not kill Hep.C and it is claimed that MMS does. I would think it would also kill the friendly intestinal flora, as do antibiotics. I have tried Royal Rife treatments so I hope this works better.
I believe it is an oxygen reaction so taking antioxidants (like Vit. C which we are told to avoid) would interfere with the reaction.
I'm not sure how this could work for Type 1 diabetes as the pancreas is already damaged, but I am hoping the reports are true and not just referring to Type II.
We did do a batch with this method as it seemed the simplest and this lady seems to be on top of the latest advancements.

CLO2 wrote:

Karl, I am 2500' above sea level. I would like to know more about concentration vs altitude. Let me know if you find out more.

Great!
I'm only about 100 feet above sea level, but I don't have any test strips on hand right now.
It would be great if anyone (volunteers? ) here at close to sea level do a test, and someone say up at Denver, Colorado (5,280 feet above sea level) could do the same test.

Yes, heating the reactor makes a big difference in the time it takes to release CLO2 gas.

Just keep the water below boiling point!

By the way, I forgot to mention that your idea of a small vent hole in the receiver cap must help with the concentration by keeping the escaping gas to a minimum, yet without the bang factor!

Thanks.

--Charlotte

Yes. Just a hole small enough to release pressure, but to keep some pressure inside to avoid gas from escaping too quickly.
Just use a "Bobby Pin (tm)" to poke the hole

CLO2 wrote:

That is a good question. But, the dilution calculator gave the number I quoted. Tomorrow when I run the test again, I will add 700ml of distilled water to the 300ml of CDS and then measure the concentration. Will that work for you?

Ok, now it does!
It just didn't make sense that you would get a different reading with the same solution, just changing the quantity

Another way to look at this question is, if there was 1000ml of DW in the receiver, would the concentration be less than if there was 300ml? Seems like the amount of CLO2 gas generated depends on how much NaCLO2 & citric acid is in the reactor.

I am referencing concentrations of CLO2 to 1000ml for all my testing to eliminate one variable.

--Charlotte

It would just take more time to saturate, but in your case, you would still get your 2,700 PPM.
As I mentioned on the video, I get a full saturated gallon in 6 minutes.
I have tested up to 10 minutes, and there's just no change at all in color density beyond 6 minutes, with one full tablespoon of SC and CA.

BTW, what is your height above sea level? I am almost 100% positive that full saturation will be different to everyone, depending how high they are above sea level, due to atmospheric pressure.

And thanks for testing!

CLO2 wrote:

Measuring concentration with an eXact Chlorine photometer showed the 300 ml of CDS to be 2700 ppm. Using a dilution calculator, that would be 810 ppm in 1000 ml.

Excuse me, and correct me if I'm wrong!
But if you measured 2,700 PPM in your solution of 300 ml, it doesn't matter if you have 300 ml or 30 ml or 1 ml of this solution! You will still read 2,700 PPM, unless you dilute the solution with something else.
It will still be 2,700 PPM per volume, or did I misunderstand some procedure?

They are different. It's like asking me, which is stronger, apples or apple juice? It depends on what you're using them for. For some things apples would be better, because it contains pectin. For others just the juice is best. Some would say that MMS is stronger, or that CDS is a weaker version of it - but that would only be because CDS doesn't have everything that MMS has - the question is, what is needed?