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Are you adding vit C to your STS? I think C could replace MMS for as long you're on the STS. One could still do MMS enemas. Anyway this is what I plan to do.
Bladder (and prostate) issues should gradually improve if bowels health is being restored. Toxic, inflamed bowels infect surrounding organs.
Good to hear you're making progress.

Oral STS is said to mostly break down in the digestive system. IV STS should be systemic.
One could use oral EDTA and/or DMSA for systemic heavy metal chelation.
It may be possible to somehow combine but all in all there would not be much need for MMS while on STS, C, D, EDTA/DMSA, DMSO, Turp, Iodine, Zinc, Copper etc.

Last night I continued to be really messed up, it was a two day crisis. I was still taking 2 drops MSM and 2 drops DMSO (half of my previous days doses) all day yesterday. It caught up with me! I tried some STS, just a little (1/8 tsp) late and it made it worse. It just added up to too much inner cellular methylated sulfur in my system.

I suffered all night last night and could not get the leg pain, and restless leg to stop. I was: cold, hurting, my gut and center back was hurting (small intestine). I took Taurine, Turmeric and Chlorella (all which have sulfate) a few other things and nothing worked. I knew this was a toxic load being moved into my gut that my body was unable to deal with but I could not figure out that solution.

I was recirculating toxins I believe. The DMSO, and STS had caught up with me. I got this same crisis taking MSM with other sulfur contaitning supplements a few weeks ago. I knew what was happening, just couldn't figure out what to do about it

Finally this morning I rolled the dice and took a: P5P (like B5), a gram of Turmeric, and 1/2 tsp of Epsom, and within 30 min I knew it was working. I got comfortable and was able to sleep this morning and Im still fine. It was the Mag and Sulfate in the Epsom that allowed my gut to detox. The DMSO I had been taking was pushing so much junk to my gut that it would not bind properly and it was causing a great deal or toxic load, or re-circulation, or something that was not supposed to be happening. I dont think the MMS/CDH had any impact on this crisis, because I had the exact same thing happen a few weeks ago, before I ever took MMS.

This is what Ive learned: DMSO, STS, MSM all are very systemic. Take one and you and you are basically injecting Sulfate into your cells, maybe getting it into your really sick over-loaded cells. Normal cells really like sulfate, but nothing about me is normal, my toxic load is high, and I likely have a sulfate shortage (evidence: DMSO skin test burning & pain, dry mouth, High oxalate levels, low Calcium levels, gallbladder-ectomy, bile problems, at times hypoglycemia, etc. etc..) .

So Epsom might stay in your gut, or at the very least it does not add to a healing crisis within your cells that follows taking: DMSO, MSM, STS. It sure saved me! Everyone needs to never forget this, it could save you a lot of agony! I expect to maybe get loose bowls and an empty colon today, but I'll take that all day compared to a healing crisis that is unbearable and seems unsolvable. Usually a really loose colon follows me taking 3-4 tsp or more Epsom, because I absorb more sulfate than most people. A person with a normal sulfate level might have a bowl movement within a few hours of taking 1-2 tsp or so, (way less than me).

I just took another 1/2 tsp Epsom by itself and Im doing fine. What a relief that was! Epsom USP (USP means its orally approved, and costs a little more) , make sure you have some handy!

mart1n. I did add 1/2 tsp Ascorbic acid to my 1/2 tsp STS, over the first two days, I omitted it for my 1/8 tsp STS yesterday, It made no difference to the crisis.

Ive got a new theory.

The theory is that when we start these oxygenation (MS|M/CD. etc) protocols (so we can get less toxic) as soon as we add in the methylated sulfur/sulfate protocols (DMSO, STS, MSM, N-acetal choline , etc..) our need for sulfate to be present in our guts in quantities sufficient to stop and bind the circulating toxic load, goes up dramatically (DRAMATICALLY!) That overtaxing of your available sulfate level is the definition of a healing crisis.

Now if we were super healthy people and only using Jim Hubble's info to stop an acute bug or positioning, we would have sufficient levels of sulfate already within our bodies to service our temporarily increased sulfation requirement. Us really chronically sick people have already used most or all of our stores of sulfate while our bodies were trying to detox whatever chronic infections we have suffered from for years, and we need to load our sulfate.

DMSO burns me, becasue its a massive rapid absorption into tissue that have little to no sulfate within it, and its causes trauma.

The lack of sulfate is how you get: diabetes, pancreatic problems, liver dysfunction, etc.. etc.. (Its probably a huge component for the reasons GMO foods are killing us).

I would like everyone who is taking CD in any way, to consider adding in 1 tsp of Epson salts USP per day, and this can be in divided doses. You can go higher in dose, in fact go as high as you need or want to try, but go slowly, the sulfate levels in your body should accumulate and get to a good healthy level and thats when you might notice your bowls getting more loose, just back it down a little and keep going, there is no medical term for too much sulfate within your body. Sulfate is the 4th most prevalent substance in you and according to the medical info, you can not over do it. Too muck magnesium might cause your bowls to loosen (its called bowl tolerance level) long before the sulfate does anything noticeable, so its got to be extremely safe. Please dont change anything else that you are doing right now, (unless you want to cut out DMSO, MSM, N-ac, etc. the "methylated sulfurs") but try adding the Epsom. See if any of your: discomfort, restless legs, sore knees, gut bloating, dry mouth, indigestion, weird symptoms, healing crisis, etc, subsides. Its important not to change anything and make sure you've been stable for a while at the CD level you are at right now so you can gauge your results.

I am not going to take any methylated sulfur/sulfate compounds: (DMSO, STS, MSM, N-acetal choline , etc..), while loading my sulfate for a couple of weeks. DMSO is nasty stuff when your sulfate levels are suppressed and you are increasing them, I proved that over the last 48 miserable hours!

I need as much help on this as possible. Please consider this, especially all of you who have had any reaction to DMSO or other methylated sulfur compounds, you are reacting to methylated sulfur/sulfate compounds, not sulfur/sulfate, there's a big difference. You aren't allergic to sulfur/sulfate, you are sulfur/sulfate deficient, and getting your gut sulfur/sulfate levels up should be the quickest way to start to heal and get not chronically ill and to detox.

Now some people can eat 1 tsp of Epsom and have a bowl mvmt that day, within a few hours. Some people can consume 3 tsp of Epsom USP per day or more for weeks and never get any reaction, those people are low on sulfate and really need to load their sulfate levels before they get started with DMSO or any of any of the other methylated sulfur compounds supplements or it might just put you into a real horrible healing crisis. If you get a healing crisis, drink some Epsom USP to load your guts sulfate levels quickly, that will prevent the re-circulation by giving your toxic load a sulfate level to bond to, so it can leave your body and not be recirculated back into your body fat and tissues.

Id did this "Epsom rescue" this morning, and I tried it on my wife also this morning, who has been experiencing a healing crisis after every hot bath she takes. She took a hot bath last night and suffered all night. It worked on us both. We are both chronically ill from 20 years living in a moldy old house.

Sorry Chris I can hardly keep track of your posts. After Jims 3 x 15 drops a day you're the best guinea pig ever.
There is sulfur in epsom salts. And I did post info on cutting back on STS when using DMSO.
Too fast with too much..
In addition we lost your country today. I herx just because of that!

Yep theres sulfur in Epsom, but its not methylated, It makes a huge difference.

The methylated sulfurs: DMOS, MSM, STS, n-acetal cistine, all easily cause a healing crisis in me (Im sulfate low). Epsom stops a healing crisis by giving the circulating trash (that the methylated sulfurs get all stired up!) something to bind too within your gut. All the stored and liberated Toxic load has to have something to bind to while passing into the methylation cycles or its get recirculated and re-circulation is the worst possible scenario. That re-circultion leads to Kidney stress, liver stress, then SIBO, Cancer, tumors, etc. thats why your body goes to such extreme measures to stop re-circulation. Our bodies will foster the growth of Hydrogen Sulfite producing bacteria (which it normally fights against), Fungus, oxalate production within your liver, etc..etc.. all to stop re-circulation, to protect your vital organs. Its your bodies last trick used to keep you alive.

You do also need vegetable fiber in your gut to bind the sulfur too also, thats why the old timers always told us to "eat our vegetables" .

Here is a good video on some of this:

I read MMS also can redistribute heavy metals. I wouldn't know. Thanks for the update on the methyl part. May be that what Jim Humble said about some people not tolerating DMSO.

holisticprimarycare.net/topics/nutrition-a-lifestyle/sulfate-the-most-common-nutritional-deficiency-you-ve-never-heard-of/