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Greetings! A very quick history:(I decided to make MMS from scratch and was successful!  I had no support, and it required some faith and trust to achieve it. I have the Health Recovery Book of Jim Humble. And you can get the recipe off his website: jimhumble.co/how-to-make-mms. I activate with Hydrochloric Acid 5% (which Jim himself verified as okay), since in the book it states to use 4 %. I am SO grateful to have had that verified as I can buy that.  And it works fine.  It is a food supplement, for digestion. Passing on the tip now. It was hard for me to get past all the scare mongering online - but when the world went mad in 2019 - I decided it would be great to have this empowerment - to heal myself in hand. I have not had a flu or cold since having MMS1 available to take if I feel anything coming on. That was in 2019 .. And now my Question about taking Calcium Hypochlorite: (MMS2) I was wondering about MMS2 - ( I have been afraid to try it as the packaging says "harmful if swallowed" ( even though its "Application" says it is for water purification ). See link to the product below.  So -- since I gather it burns skin - I'm wondering if it will burn my stomach -( I know we are to take a glass of water with it ) And I would start very small, a grain or two. I was wanting to add in some MMS2 as after day 12 of the Protocol 1000 (I think is the one) 3 drops every hour for 8 hours -Well, I find it hard to keep going - and I wonder if I'm losing nutrients, so I though maybe I could add in some MMS2 to keep things going when I want to stop. Can someone reassure me about the 'Harmful if Swallowed" Warning? (I have been reading the MMS2 category on this forum and saw that comment that said: I quote: " Do not take MMS2 because it is harmful."I  wonder if the Moderators might comment on that, as I do feel I can trust Jim Humble due to the detail and care and time he has taken to teach us all via his books and interviews and website ..  and due to the positive results from testimonials, so not sure who wrote that comment that goes against what he says is possible.  So -- some re assurance is requested. Thank you for reading and helping! Much appreciated. I will put the link to the product I bought, if someone could verify its right and okay to swallow :  apcpure.com/product/calcium-hypochlorite-65-granular/( I now see that I can attach a file - so I will attach a PDF of the product in question.)All the best. Skyblue 

It says Calcium Hypochlorite 65% - I'd want to know what the other 35% is! I don't see it listed on your link - does it say what the "inactive ingredients" are on your product insert? Could you write the supplier and ask?

My original question was to request some input about swallowing calcium hypoclorite (MMS2)  Since the packaging says: Harmful if swallowed. 
Thanks anyone who can speak to this!  
Following up on the 'inactive ingredients'... as queried by RFKennedyJrforPrez
I asked the supplier about the 35% (or 65%) What it means. Here is what she said: "The technical team advised the following:  "The 65% refers to amount of available chlorine rather than the purity of the product."
She said she could also supply a "certificate of analysis" - However, Jim did say, they couldn't leave harmful things in the product due to its human use purposes.

Anyway - given that this is the right product for MMS2 - can anyone assist with my concern about it coming with packaging that says: 'harmful if swallowed'.  Is that always on
Calcium Hypochlorite when you buy it?
( I know the whole internet had said wrong things about MMS1( chlorine dioxide) and Jim explains that even though the sellers of
Calcium Hypochlorite will say, 'available chlorine' - that it is not the chlorine everyone defaults to known as 'bleach'. 
Thanks!
 

Have you read Jim Humble's "MMS Health Recovery Guidebook" about
how and when and why to take MMS2? It explains it all in there.

You put it in gel caps and swallow it that way.
And not just "a few grains". (but typical "Low and Slow" with it, as well)
Then it dissolves in your stomach with water and your stomach acid
to create the Hypochlorous Acid from the Calcium Hypochlorite (Ca(ClO)2).

I forget what percentage he says to use. And it does need to be "food grade".

You don't want to "swallow it" in any other way. (even dissolved in water) (afaik)
The "Harmful If Swallowed" is "true" (-ish) and also to protect the seller.
They say the same thing about SCS and MMS1 / ClO2.
I forget what the LD-50 is for MMS2. My guess is that it is MUCH higher than what
JH suggests we take. (similar to MMS1)
But the primary problem might be the caustic nature if swallowed as powder.

I believe that Andreas Kaclker thinks MMS2 is "bad". but I don't know a lot
about what his thinking and reasons are, etc.

You DO NOT want to take it the same time as DMSO!!!
(they react with an exothermic reaction causing HEAT -- you NEVER want to mix
Calcium Hypochlorite with DMSO -- "in the air", they could burst into flame / explode,
so you don't want to store them near each other, and be very careful when using them,
of course, as always)

In the protocols, you take them 1/2 hour apart, as per JH. I would think the DMSO
dissipates near-immediately, so that's probably why it's okay that far apart.
We always try to 'error' in / toward Safety.

Some people have experienced "Swollen Glands" when they take it, and I did
experience that. I don't know if I was Herxing, and doing too much too fast,
or what. I'm getting ready to try it again, but am going "Lower and Slower"
this time to see what happens. I only got the negative reaction when I was
taking the higher levels, like 3/4 and full capsules. So I am going to take
the lower amounts (probably 1/8 full capsule) longer and build up slower.

You can see what products I use on my website, link below.
(vegan gel caps, etc.)

I think I adequately answered your questions and concerns.
 

Thank you BillPop,

Yes I am reading and re reading the book. And those passages on MMS2.  Nonetheless, I need and like to have some real live input about its dangers. And to make sure I am comprehending correctly. And make sure I'm doing it right.
Even knowing I am taking it in tightly sealed gel caps I was concerned about the 'burning' factor: Such as If the granule touched my internal skin, or dissolved too slowly for example
once inside of me. I still wonder about this. Wish I had some more info on this.

I have read and re read the book. Yes.  ( I did not see Jim Humble in the Health recover book say it needs to be 'food grade' as he says you can buy it in many places including at pool supply stores )  He says nothing harmful can be in it - ( though, ingesting something to me seems more sensitive that bathing in something ) -

Does any one have a source of Calcium Hypochlorite then, in UK, (or anywhere) (that is said to be food grade?) I will ask the place I got mine. Your advice is much appreciated.
I like the idea of the immunity action of Hypochlorous acid.  How can we get the info that it is food grade- If we are not supposed to be ingesting it?  I don't think it is wise to ask the supplier based on my ingesting it? so what application, other than ingesting it, would require it to be food grade? Any suggestions? For example, does use in swimming pool require it be food grade? If so, then it would already be food grade...

I did go ahead and try it .. I took One grain in a capsule. Lots of water. To be honest, I think by 10 to 12 grains, (which is much less that he suggests), may be my limit to date.
I burp a chlorine taste, which I kinda like. But I still wonder if it is safe, regarding the burning factor. . 
It relaxes me - also, at this very low dose. I tried it after food, at first.  Then I tried it on empty stomach too.  But I do feel a slight, very slight burn in my chest after - even though - I swallow it properly in the gel cap with loads of water... ( I know that MMS1 causes a burn if there is mold present, but this is different as it is not touching there) And I do not know if MMS2 has the same effect any way.? Please fill me in, if anyone knows. 

If i can find your website, I'll have a look.  Thank you.  Yes, I ask this question, not because I haven't read Jim's book on MMS2,  But because it helps me to broaden my comfort
in taking it based on others direct experience. And as you show, some people think it is bad..

I understand about the DMSO too. Thanks for re iterating this point.  It is important to be safe.

I do not know what LD-50 means. 

So I dove in and tried it before I got your message.  But I will check on the food grade part .. and I'm still concerned about this slight burning feeling in my chest after taking in. 
I am taking like only 10 grains. They are very small grains too. 

First I tried it in a bath, to get a sense of its potency.  And when I put 1 teaspoon in a bath, i could see how powerful this stuff is. It was more than enough for my skin.  Maybe just right for a bath at 1 teaspoon.  So that meant a tiny amount for a glass of water for me. . if you get my reasoning. 

I like how it feels energetically in my body.  And I'm seeing a result too.  I did not start with this - (btw for anyone new reading this.) I have been using MMS for a couple years, and  I recently did many days of MMS1 protocol. So I had no herxheimer at this tiny dose.  In fact it relaxes me.  Seems cleansing.  Still I continue to have some concern about its burn effect internally.  So - Please anyone else please share your knowledge and personal experience. 

I will post an additional question on a new thread so it is visible and easier to find the information once answered:  Doe Hypochlorous acid (MMS2) gets neutralized by caffeine (tea and coffee) - Like MMS1 ( chlorine dioxide) ?

Thanks so much.

 

I did occasionally get a chlorine-like burp.
And sometimes kind of an indigestion acidic feeling.
So I drank more water.

Maybe that's why Andreas Kalcker thinks it is bad. (? -- I need to read his book and stuff)
(someone mentioned it creates Chlorine in your stomach -- I don't know if that is true or not --
but I would think that wouldn't be a good thing --- unless the alternative is worse (extreme sickness, death))

I get weary of too much constant Studying, and Research, and Reading, and Revisiting, and Refreshing, & Reviewing.
My memory isn't what it used to be, either, so that sux.

I don't think there should be any concerns of "burning" or such at these
concentrations and amounts.

You have Hydrochloric Acid in your stomach for food digestion, and, afaik, Hypochlorous Acid,
especially at these concentrations and amounts, isn't even that strong. (?)
They (JH, et al.) supposedly did some good semi-scientific and anecdotal testing and research
for  safety and efficacy over many years.

LD-50 is a medical and pharmalogical and scientific and bio-research laboratory test
they do on non-human animals where they give them something until 50% of the animals die,
and then they extrapolate that out to try to figure what amount would be safe for human consumption.
Like all similar testing and research it is bogus, but that's what they do and have done for decades.

I get my Calcium Hypochlorite from a trusted seller of MMS and related products.
So I feel safe in using it.
 

Greetings BillPop,
Thanks. I appreciate hearing your experience and sense of things.  I will look for a link on your website, once I find your website to see your source of calcium hypochlorite.
So. Cool. I will check it out.  Or you can post a link for us.  ( Wish I hadn't asked about LD-50 - criminal in my book )
I noticed you did a post about HCL Hydrochloric Acid (making it, I think.) well, I want to say also to you here that I asked Jim, a couple years ago
if I could use HCL 5% - and back then, he was still able to answer! And I got lucky, coz I got an answer direct from him.
And he said it was fine to use 5%. I showed this exact product. And I have been using it ever since. And my MMS I make from scratch is good.
And it goes amber with this HCL. And the MMS1 works on me. Keeps away bugs and heals skin rashes.. ( those are obvious signs..)
And I made the eye drops too which is 1 drop MMS1 to 120 mls water. 
And it does not sting. ( Only mildly sometimes, if my eyes are needing it.) And I use it in the cats eyes too.
And so, If you want to tell people - please pass it on .. as I don't wanna suddenly say something against your saying it Must be 4% -
But yes, that is what the book says. But I'm letting you know, and everyone else, that the 5% is okay, and works.
Here in the UK I buy this: www.healthleadsuk.com/hydrochloric-acid-5-percent.html
Enjoy the night! or maybe it's day your way. Enjoy the day! Peace and calm is necessary for health too. Best wishes.

Yes, JH's book does still say only 4%.

I'm not sure where the 5% came from.

But I think it is generally agreed that 4% or 5% is fine.

The book could use an update.
 

I had the same issues taking it. I started with 1/16 to 1/8 capsule and the herxing was substantial. I have not increased the amount after a couple weeks using and it appears to be enough for now. Thank you for the great write up.

I also buy a pure source and don't trust the pool shock percentages.