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Gallstones.Surgery recommended.But dont want it.Can MMS cure me instead? 12 Dec 2011 18:05 #9169

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My son's specialist has categorically stated that his gallbladder is completely full of gallstones and that there is no liquid present and the organ has to be removed.

Given the no liquid state and taking MMS Protokoll 1000 can the stones/rubbish be removed safely from the body? Anyone know what the process is
Ive read that he must first do a gallbladder flush beforce starting protocol 1000, but my concern is that this could end up causing
the bile ducts to become blocked and inflamed causing infection and a much more serious situation.

Thank you for any advise you can give now, as we have to make a decision in the next few days if he must go for surgery or should we try the MMS route.

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Re: Gallstones.Surgery recommended.But dont want it.Can MMS cure me instead? 13 Dec 2011 08:56 #9199

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Hi homefrog,

Sounds like the specialist has a one tract mind bent on surgery as the only option. You have to remember doctors are trained to be extremely narrow minded and not look at all the options, only the ones approved by their profession.

There are many simple ways to cure gallstones without surgery. I have not heard any reports of anyone harming themselves doing liver flushes or natural remedies. Although, if you ask a doctor, they'll probably try to scare you, because they don't know about it and assume their profession knows everything of importance.

On the protocol list (genesis2church.is/mms-protocol-list.html) it says to use protocol 1000 for gallstones, so that is what I would do. Also for more info on flushes and other natural remedies I would look here at earthclinic (www.earthclinic.com/CURES/gallstones.html).

To give you an example of how powerful protocol 1000 can be in removing something like gallstones, take a look at these 9 kidney stones (genesis2forum.org/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=11&id=2602&limit=6&limitstart=42&Itemid=66#3361) passed by BlueGuardian as a result if his starting protocol 1000. His whole story is on that thread. He was not even sick and started protocol 1000 just for general detox, but eventually wound up passing all those stones in the next weeks.

I'll bet protocol 1000 can do the same with gallstones, and you can add in some of the other natural remedy advice from earthclinic. I would certainly give these things a try before something as risky and invasive as surgery, despite whatever pressure the doctor may bring to bear for his myopic solution.

Let us know how it goes,

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Re: Gallstones.Surgery recommended.But dont want it.Can MMS cure me instead? 13 Dec 2011 10:56 #9203

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Wow, thank you for such a thorough, kind and quick response!! And yes, I agree wholeheartedly on the aspect of doctors;-) However, one nagging worry remains in the mind and that revolves around the removal issue...could it inflame or block the duc? That is the main worry for my son or would the crystal simply be oxidised as I am assuming?
A final reassurance would be most helpful. Many many thanks:-) Thank you too for the excellent health link!
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Re: Gallstones.Surgery recommended.But dont want it.Can MMS cure me instead? 13 Dec 2011 16:53 #9215

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Hi homefrog,

I don't have direct experience with this and I've only got the info that I have read in places like earthclinic and on the yahoo health groups where I participate.

I have not seen anyone reporting that they hurt themselves by using natural remedies for the gallbladder problems the doctors tell them MUST be operated on immediately. The doctors are selling their services.

My experience has been that when you support the body, with MMS and other nontoxic supportive therapies, then the body finds a way to deal with the problem, a way that even the doctors don't know about because they have never investigated nontoxic, supportive therapies.

Support the body and it will heal itself. I have seen it a thousand times in myself, my family and my friends, despite all the dire warnings by the doctors, who are well intentioned, but just don't know it all. Simply support the body and give it a little time and I'll bet this problem will resolve without the need for surgery. MMS will take care of any infection possibilities.

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Re: Gallstones.Surgery recommended.But dont want it.Can MMS cure me instead? 14 Dec 2011 10:04 #9236

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Hi,
I've done the Liver Flush close to ten times and sure can recommend it.
Andreas Moritz has written a book called Amazing liver and gallbladder flush that has trough out information about it.
Though, if the mms works why not, since the flush is a lot to get into.

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Re: Gallstones.Surgery recommended.But dont want it.Can MMS cure me instead? 14 Dec 2011 11:02 #9242

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Thank you:-) The info is all very thorough but very overwhelming on flushes and no doubt if thr ight is found is works. But I would like to stick to MMS but need the extra info on how the gobbling up action would handle the stones/crystals and the bile duc....any knowledge or experience in this regard very appreciated.

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Re: Gallstones.Surgery recommended.But dont want it.Can MMS cure me instead? 14 Dec 2011 13:30 #9249

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I have two patients with suspected gallbladder stone... one taking mms1 and the other taking MMS2.... both now said is healed.... it takes about a month more......
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Re: Gallstones.Surgery recommended.But dont want it.Can MMS cure me instead? 15 Dec 2011 14:12 #9279

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:( I can imagine this is getting to be boring, but my son remains concerned about the implication of stones getting stuck in the bile duc and causing huge problems/complications when taking MMS (or anything else for that matter).
If I may, I would like to draw the following picture.
The MMS molecule(s) in the gas produced by MMS comes along and eats up the MOLECULE (s) in the stone (s) thus over time the stone disinterates, disapears into thin air, so to speak.
The molecule and all its companions that cobbled up the stone is excreted via bile duc or blood stream.

Could you confirm if this is a correct, if simplistic, view or?? If correct than the question or concern on blockage becomes null and void.
Many thanks!!

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Re: Gallstones.Surgery recommended.But dont want it.Can MMS cure me instead? 15 Dec 2011 16:45 #9282

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Gallstones are usually (copped from a Google search)
Stones made of cholesterol, which are by far the most common type. Cholesterol gallstones have nothing to do with cholesterol levels in the blood.

Stones made of bilirubin, which can occur when red blood cells are being destroyed (hemolysis). This leads to too much bilirubin in the bile. These stones are called pigment stones.

Jim's latest book does not address gallstones directly, but he does talk about cholesterol. he wrote:

"There are many causes for hardening and clogging of the arteries, but cholesterol seems to be the best known. To date, several people have reported that taking MMS reduced the clogging of their arteries due to cholesterol.

One lady called to say that she was in very bad shape. She had been told that her veins were at least 80% clogged. The doctors couldn’t say if it was worse because they couldn’t measure more than that. She took large, 15-drop doses three times a day for 30 days, and when they measured again, the clogging was less than 50%. That is a tremendous change in just 30 days."


I do not know anyone who has used MMS on their gallstones, BUT, Edwin has a much wider group of people he has been working with, and he says they have been successful - so there you go. It has worked in those cases - even if we don't know the exact mechanism.
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