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MMS1 or Activated MMS: chlorine dioxide (ClO2)
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Bad Batch of CD? 28 Dec 2023 03:19 #80883

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I recently purchased CD at Amazon from Crystal Clear Lab and I’m using it even though one of the bottles seems to have leaked.  The strange thing is:  when I opened the package to check that the bottles were okay, they were in two ziplock bags and looked okay.  A few weeks later when I went to use them, there was black liquid on the side of one of the bottles and it looked like the ink from the label had leaked on it.  The labels were cheap paper with no coating on them to protect if spilled on.

The first two times I tried to make MMS, I used one drop of each HC and SC.  They didn’t change color.  So I tried a third time and I finally got a bright yellow color, but not amber as Jim Humble recommends.  I don’t know if it’s too small of an amount to go amber.  It’s definitely not the color of a beer bottle as Humble suggests it should be.

The only reason I’m using it is that my cat,Trixie, was very sick and was vomiting and pooping blood and vets are closed during the holidays.  She’s had two energy healings, but I also wanted to be sure we take care of whatever is going on with her.

I’ve been giving the MMS to Trixie and 5 kittens.  I’ve also been taking it.  

I read Humble’s book through a few times and he says there will be fumes when mixing the drops.  There are absolutely no fumes!  So this made me wonder if I have a good batch of CD.

Also, I started taking 1 drop of MMS the first day and noticed absolutely no ill effects.  The dosage for the kittens is 1 drop of MMS and I figured I’d take the leftovers of theirs.  (I know this was not totally following directions).  However, I’ve been taking my own mix 2 days and I’m halfway into the third and I don’t notice anything changing.  I’ve had a cough that seems like it’s getting better, but that could just be because I’ve been getting 8 hours of sleep because I’m on vacation at home.  Humble said there aren’t too many things that can change from clear to another color when mixed.  But I’m surprised that I’ve started at a higher dose than the 1/4 drop recommended and I don’t really notice any improvement or feeling ill or anything. 

The kittens don’t seem any better either.  The black and white tuxedo boy had some nasty yellow discharge in his eyes when he started on MMS and that’s gone, but his eyes are still very red and puffy.  Leia no longer has discharge in her eyes and that’s a first since she was still nursing.  She is the only one who seems to have improved slightly.  Fifi still has brown discharge on his face that’s coming from his eyes or nose.  He’s not eating well at all.  I have to syringe feed him.  The other two have eye discharge still.

We are on our third day and it seems like the improvements are very minor, if anything.

I’ve moved the dosage up each day according to the chart.  Leia started at 4.5 drops, and the rest got 9 drops as they weigh more.  Trixie got 1 ml to start and is now taking 3 ml (the highest dose recommended).  Trixie has hardly touched her food.  I had to syringe-feed her today as she didn’t want her food.  I’ve taken her outside to do grounding and she loves it.  I ground with her.  Her energy is a lot better than it was, but she’s not eating and that really concerns me.

I’ve kept my dosage the same for the three days as I started it higher than recommended.  I also ordered DMSO as that is recommended in Humble’s Guide.  The next recommended protocol (3000) calls for DMSO which will arrive soon.

I’ve already ordered another brand of CD from Eden Way as recommended by CLO2.  I don’t know how long it will take to arrive, but it was less expensive than the brand I bought and it had free shipping.

 

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Bad Batch of CD? 28 Dec 2023 14:31 #80886

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Are you following Jim's animal protocols for your cats? 

Are you storing the bottles with regular caps or the dropper caps? 

A 1 drop dose of MMS1 at 30 seconds of activation may not show an amber color, but a 3 drop dose will. 

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Bad Batch of CD? 28 Dec 2023 19:44 #80895

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I store the bottles with the dropper caps.  Should I be storing with the bottle caps?

The only thing I’m doing differently for my cats is using the 1 cup of mixed MMS1 for all of them.  I give Trixie the first part, so she gets the exact right dosage.  She has started eating, but it’s not a lot.  Her energy looks good and she hasn’t vomited or pooped blood.  She’s only eaten a little yesterday.  Like maybe 1/3 -1/4 of what she normally eats.  For the rest of the kittens, I give them drops from the cup I prepared for Trixie, so I know the strength is different.  I’m not sure if it’s weaker or stronger.  I would be throwing out a lot of water if I were preparing a new cup for each of the 5 kittens.  Plus, it would take a long time to dose all of them as I would have to dry out the glass, the dosing dropper and syringe.  They get such small amounts that I have to use a dropper for some of them and a syringe for others.  The dropper is from a bottle I used to have homeopathic remedies in.

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Bad Batch of CD? 28 Dec 2023 21:24 #80897

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Trixie scarfed up her first meal today and I gave her more.  She ate most of that as well.  4 of the kittens are eating very well.  This is a change as Bean didn’t eat that much before the MMS.  Fifi still has to be syringe fed.  I’m open to him having a great change soon.  

I still plan to take 1 drop of MMS1 today as this is my 4th day of the Starting Procedure.  The DMSO arrived last night, but has no dropper.  I have old amber dropper bottles from a holistic vet and I plan to transfer some DMSO into a bottle.  I have to transfer it droppper-full by dropper-full.  I don’t think I can use a plastic funnel as it will contaminate the DMSO.  I plan to begin DMSO tomorrow.  I think that’s Protocol 1000.

There is so much to think about in using CD.  I really appreciate the help from members here, such as you, CLO2.  

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Bad Batch of CD? 29 Dec 2023 01:46 #80899

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The first picture is 1 drop.

The second picture is 3 drops.  You can see the sink’s drain in this picture.
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Bad Batch of CD? 29 Dec 2023 11:11 #80900

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They both look normal 
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Bad Batch of CD? 29 Dec 2023 19:07 #80902

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I store the bottles with the dropper caps.  Should I be storing with the bottle caps?


 


If you use the dropper caps when storing the two bottles, what will happen is that both of the natural black rubber squeeze bulbs will be attacked by both sodium chlorite solution fumes and HCL fumes. That will contaminate both solutions and possibly poison you. You must use the plain caps when storing the two bottles.

Personally, I would not use the dropper caps to dispense drops. Instead I would use a pipette. For best accuracy of drop size (0.05ml per drop) use a 1ml syringe to dispense drops. Drop size can vary by 100%, depending on the various droppers available. 


 
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Bad Batch of CD? 30 Dec 2023 03:17 #80908

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Okay, to me amber is a lot darker.

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Bad Batch of CD? 30 Dec 2023 12:09 #80911

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Okay, to me amber is a lot darker.


Looking again at the photos you posted, if the photos were taken at +30 seconds, an amber color should be visible. 

Did you order a set of two bottles from Eden Way

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