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I started on the 1000 protocol and was going fine. However, when I told a friend, she said she was in Africa years ago and they used chlorine dioxide for local water purification and since then her microbiome has been ruined and she is now needing faecal transplants to survive.  She said the chlorine dioxide was in tablet form added to the water.
She also said her gut specialist said it would destroy your gut microbiome.
I am suspecting her illness may be more to do with picking up a parasite, or other underlying conditions, and didn't think you could get chlorine dioxide in tablet form as an equivalent to MMS, but it has made me do a bit more investigation, particularly as I have recently done a series of colonics so would need to be gentle on the gut flora until rebuilt and thriving again.
Can anyone assist? Thanks

andreaskalcker.com/en/cds-clo2/faq-cds.html
"HOW DOES CDS AFFECT THE INTESTINAL FLORA?"

Page 15 in  MMS Health Recovery Guidebook :
"Beneficial bacteria are highly resistant to oxidation and thus are not harmed by chlorine dioxide." 

''Most bacteria that colonize the human gut are anaerobic; they are 100–1000 times more numerous than aerobic bacteria (Loesche, 1969; Finegold, 1995). Anaerobic bacteria vary according to their sensitivity to oxygen and are often unable to survive in its presence (Rolfe et al., 1978).''

I'm not sure whether the above statement is referring to good or bad bacteria though...

If that is the case, then I question Jim Humble's statements. Unless the chlorine dioxide is used up by killing all of the pathogens before it is able to do any damage. Or perhaps it's more complicated than that.

After having watched and read a lot of content regarding MMS and CDS, and having recently started the beginners protocol myself, I must say that this important question seems under addressed.

It seems like, if you're going to take MMS or CDS, you've basically got to resort to having faith that it won't harm your gut biome, due to the lack of information regarding the subject.

Her GUESS that it was the ClO2, IF that is even what it was, is completely specious, random, and arbitrary.

MANY years of research, investigation, and study have shown Beyond A Reasonable Doubt
that ClO2 does not negatively affect gut bacteria and biome.
If that were the case, there would be MANY, MANY people hurt by the use of ClO2 rather than
the widespread Health Restoration that has been observed and reported.

Most likely, MMS would have helped her with whatever problem she is experiencing.

BillPopMMS wrote:

MANY years of research, investigation, and study have shown Beyond A Reasonable Doubt
that ClO2 does not negatively affect gut bacteria and biome.
 

It would be a benefit to the forum if you would cite some sources.

The most informative statement I have seen regarding this is from "Curious Outlier," the creator of "The Universal Antidote" documentary and related website:

"There are several reasons why the majority of gut bacteria are unharmed by chlorine dioxide (CLO2)
which is a reactive oxygen species. First, much of the gut microbiome itself secrets small quantities of
reactive oxygen species (also called ROS) such as hydrogen peroxide and superoxide. For this reason,
gut bacteria can resist other reactive oxygen species in small quantities. Lactobacilli for example
produce ROS, and this gives them an advantage over pathogens because they can withstand higher
exposures to ROS like hydrogen peroxide and superoxide that are produced by the body as part of the
immune system to destroy pathogens. Let me use a simple illustration.
Think of ROS secreting bacteria like electric eels. The electricity from one electric eel does not disturb
another.
So it is with gut bacteria and reactive oxygen species. Gut bacteria that secrete ROS are not affected
by ROS from other sources. That includes chlorine dioxide unless delivered at overwhelming industrial
strength. In the same way, an electric eel could not withstand a lightning strike.
At the current time, just how much chlorine dioxide is needed to kill gut bacteria is not known. There
must be some lethal dose point at which lactobacilli would not be able to resist the oxidative effects,
but I have not found any literature that has established this threshold. I have seen plenty of positive
testimonials of people with disorders like irritable bowel syndrome and Crohn's disease. However,
these people have received significant benefit from the consumption of chlorine dioxide by mouth
with no apparent negative effects and significant positive effects on the gut."
Under the FAQ at theuniversalantidote.com/the-universal-antidote-course/

And beyond that, Andreas Kalcker's statement:

HOW DOES CDS (CLO2) AFFECT THE INTESTINAL FLORA?
"We have no evidence that it adversely affects the intestinal flora. CDS is absorbed from the stomach
as it is a gas dissolved in water. CDS works by pH, and harmful pathogens typically have a more acidic
pH than the rest of the body and bacteria that are in symbiosis with it. On the other hand, even if it
eliminates bacteria, it does not cause imbalance or toxicity like antibiotics."
andreaskalcker.com/en/cds-clo2/faq-cds.html

From those statements I gather that it may kill anaerobic bacteria but not more aerobic types, so while it may effect the gut biome to some degree, it doesn't totally destroy it like antibiotics.

Those two and Jim Humble's "MMS Health Recovery Guidebook".

But, again, a couple of decades of anecdotal and semi-empirical reporting from
fairly extensive study, investigation, and research isn't something to sneeze at.

I feel perfectly comfortable with my comments and use of ClO2.

Your comments are conjecture and add nothing of substance to the conversation, but at least you feel comfortable about it.

Jim's "MMS Health Recovery Guidebook" offers the following sentence on the subject:
"Beneficial bacteria are highly resistant to oxidation and thus are not harmed by chlorine dioxide."

 

That's a pretty negative and unnecessary attitude.

There is as much information and knowledge about whether ClO2 affects "good bacteria"
and what it does to your "gut biome" as anything else about the subject.

You are fooling yourself if you think you are going to get "100% accurate answers"
about anything in regard to ClO2 and its use.

You should have figured that out by now.