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Weird problems after 4 years of MMS 23 Feb 2012 20:15 #13050

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About 4 years ago I learned about MMS while down in South America. I went through the initial protocols from 1 up to 15 drops a day then fell back to maintenance dose of 6 drops a day ever since. At the age of 63 I have been happily without colds or flu ever since starting MMS. However, in December I began getting little bouts of diarrhea--not always but once to twice a week. After about a month or so it began getting towards every 3-5 days then almost every day. All of my experience with MMS has been without any nausea whatsoever.

To see what was happening I stopped my MMS. My diarrhea stopped after two days. I have now been without MMS for about 3 weeks and I have not had any unusual bowels problems. The worst part was I caught a chest cold six days ago!

Anyway, after all this discussion I'm wondering if anyone has had any similar reactions to MMS. Also, for those of you with in-depth practical knowledge of treating sick people with MMS, I'm wondering if the slow onset of diarrhea meant something in the way of a disease (eg: cancer, etc) had started on my body and the MMS was simply killing increased pathogens allowing my liver to dump all the bad stuff.

Any information is highly welcomed. I still feel MMS is truly named as a Miracle and I'm not about to totally drop it. As I mentioned--I got a chest cold--but reinitializing my MMS took care of that quickly.

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Re: Weird problems after 4 years of MMS 23 Feb 2012 21:03 #13056

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The maintenance protocol is 4-6 drops a day, if you are over the age of 50, I believe. And if you are under the age of 50, it is 4 drops 2x a week. - from Jim's book

• Maintenance -- Older people (over 60) use 4 to 6 drops a day. Younger people use 4 drops twice a week
I either emailed or PMd Mark when CDS came out, because I wondered if they would shift the maintenance protocol - to maybe 3 drops at 2 different intervals in the course of the day, since the 1000 protocol is for 3 drops at a whack - but he emailed me back and said, no,it was still 6 drops at one time.


I can think of several things - Has there been any shift in product? New vendor? Could the vendor have changed to a new or different form of CS, or if you're making it, a new distributor for a part of it - like the citric acid?

Some people can get sensitive to the citric acid. What are you using to activate your solution? There may be some other options available for you - if you purchase from Keavey's Corner, you can call and talk to Steve.

Andreas thinks that the diarrhea is caused by a residual sodium citrate.

So, I'm afraid no answer here, but some alternatives. I'm going to be playing around with Andreas' acidified citric acid at 33% with the longer activation period in the next week or so. And will see how that goes. You can PM me with private messages, if you wamt any additional information.
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Re: Weird problems after 4 years of MMS 23 Feb 2012 21:54 #13059

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Thanks--yep, I know about Clara's protocol.

Actually the original maintenance protocol for those over the age of 60 was 4-6 drops once to twice a day. That came from Jim's book and earlier websites. If you notice how small an amount that is, it is hard to believe it could cause diarrhea for several days since the CLO2 only stays in the system for a couple hours.

Later I may try a reduced dose and document my results--thanks for the help.
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Re: Weird problems after 4 years of MMS 23 Feb 2012 22:02 #13060

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Very good points to think about Pam. But no, as far as I can tell the guys I got the MMS from (MMS Supplier.com) have been very good for a long time--plus I bought large bottles than lasted over a year. Both the sodium chlorite and the citric acid were always kept refrigerated and regularly cleaned.

Your thought about residual sodium citrate makes a lot of sense too. Especially since I tried using fresh organic lime juice in water to battle my cold. No MMS and a total of 12-15 tablespoons of fresh lime juice in water daily also gave me diarrhea.

Since I maintain a big organic lime tree in our backyard, I may start using that vs. 50% citric acid to see if the problems come back. Maybe we can compare notes with your citric acid trial and my lime use.

Thanks again.
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Re: Weird problems after 4 years of MMS 24 Feb 2012 09:03 #13070

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Interesting experience jcbwrites - as I take 8 drops for maintenance with a 10% CA mix - so 1x5 regime. Two weeks ago I also came up with a bit of diarrhoea and it seems to be persisting since then. My take on is was sensitivity to the acidity, so I have been dosing with half a teaspoon of sodim bicarb an hour after my MMS and I got slight improvement. Now I am about to try mixing a tiny amount of bicarb into my MMS at the activation stage, to see what happens. I think there is a thread here where it was suggested as a pH leveler, but I have yet to read up on it.

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Re: Weird problems after 4 years of MMS 24 Feb 2012 16:00 #13087

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Thanks Sky--
Very interesting experiment levelling the pH--might even make it more palatable. I look forward to hearing how it goes.
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Re: Weird problems after 4 years of MMS 24 Feb 2012 16:01 #13088

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Yes, I'll tie the two threads together somewhat - Dr. Neer's protocol for using the sodium bicarbonate (called baking soda in the US, NOT baking powder) is to make your 32 oz dose for protocol 1000 as per usual and to add 1/8 of a teaspoon of the sodium bicarb to that, once it has activated and the water topped up to 32oz.

This would basically mean that for 3 drops of MMS, (activated), you would add 1/64th of a teaspoon of baking soda. (3 drops is 1/8th of 24, so 1/8th of 1/8th). You have a choice of taking a 1/8th spoon measure and cutting it into halves, and quarters and then into eighths, OR, you could purchase spoons at Amazon.com that actually HAVE a 1/64th measure which is the smallest spoon of this set. (Note: it doesn't say 1/64, but will have a funky name.

www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0009X1P9S/ref=oh_o00_s00_i00_details

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Re: Weird problems after 4 years of MMS 25 Feb 2012 11:55 #13112

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Wonderful reference Pam - thank you. I was going to look for the data you listed here, as it was posted elsewhere on the forum. My plan is to do a 50% solution of sodium bicarbonate and add it to a dropper bottle. Then I can basically add drops into my daily dosage of P1000 and try it out. I guess one can also do pH testing on the resultant mix before consumption - which I will do and report my findings with the resultant effects of any herx with high dosages.
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Re: Weird problems after 4 years of MMS 25 Feb 2012 13:23 #13113

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Yes, keep the ph between 5 and 5.5, according to Dr. Neer.

(he originally said 5.2, but later expanded it to between 5 and 5.5)

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