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Hello all,

I have been doing quite a bit of research on mms online, especially looking for success stories of HIV/AIDS and cancer patients, since Jim says that these 2 terrible diseases can be cured (or at least appear to be cured) in his experience. Jim said in his latest book that HIV/AIDS can be cured in about 3 weeks as if it were a bad flu. So far though, after putting in about 30 hours solid, of searching online, I have not found a single testimonial of a person who claims to cured of HIV/AIDS and very little on cancer. How could this be??? If mms really does cure these diseases I'm sure there would a lot of very happy people out there who would love to share their story so as to help others. I even shared my story of using mms as an underarm deoderant for crying out loud. So what's going on?

I would really appreciate someone's feedback on this very important issue as.

Thanks,

Scott

Hi Scott,

This is pure speculation on my part. I think most of Jim's cures for example in Africa and Mexico and elsewhere are people who probably do not have internet access. The bulk of the HIV cases are probably in Africa. I believe our member David Kiango is having the same success with HIV that Jim had, and he is just getting started.

The people with net access are from industrialized countries where there is a huge amount of disinfo to scare them away from MMS and especially from intense protocols that it takes for Cancer especially and also for HIV in that that they have to be diligent for at least 3 weeks. It seems to me the people in poorer countries are more willing to use MMS and do it diligently.

People in the West usually have many options available to them and they are more accustomed to relying on doctors to do all the work, while they just fork over payment. So they are not generally experienced in taking responsibility for their health and paying the price with healing reactions. Maybe this causes more of a tendency to give up and look for something easier. People with fewer options, with more of a tradition of self help and with less exposure to disinfo, may be more willing to stick with the MMS regimen.

Also I wonder if people that have been living in industrialized conditions for several generations generally have bodies that are more loaded with toxic residues than people in village conditions. Maybe richer diets contribute also. I wonder if these factors may create greater obstacles of nausea and diarrhea than are typical of the people Jim has been working with.

Also, I have been watching at least some of the online MMS and alternative medicine groups and any time someone takes a stand for MMS, they get nailed by trolls. People learn real fast not to take a stand for MMS. From what I have noticed there is a more concerted attack on MMS than on other alternative therapies. I have another friend who has a PhD in neuropsychiatry and used to do research for big pharma and she also has quite a bit of experience with online health groups. She also sees a great deal of troll activity against people standing up with testimonials for MMS and other alternatives, anything that presents a real threat to pharma profits.

Trolls are hired by public relations firms with huge budgets from big pharma to sway public opinion. Imagine the advertising budgets the drug companies have. Paying a few trolls is a drop in the bucket and yet it has a huge impact on what gets posted on the net. Same thing goes for anyone who puts up a blog in favor of MMS. If you watch this kind of thing like I have been for a while now, it is really blatant. We are being manipulated in hidden ways no one realizes and it impacts greatly what gets posted by the people with internet access.

If enough people wake up to what is happening behind the scenes and we all work hard enough, we can make a difference. The thing is we are all volunteers and pharma has the bottomless war chest. So that is what we are up against, just like Jim has been up against ever since he started trying to share the knowledge of MMS with the world. The powers that be have been opposing him at every step. The internet is not quite as free as we think. Money and power still carry a great deal of influence even on the net.

At least we are all doing our part. If the masses ever wake up, the elite won't be able to maintain control like we are witnessing right now.

These are the things that I think may explain your observations.

All the best,

Michael

Hi Scott.

I have helped teach people to heal themselves of HIV/AIDS here in Tanzania and have already put up a few testimonials and will be putting new ones up shortly with medical records from the hospital with black and white proof.

I think apart from most people being shy about openly sharing their status online is very difficult, it takes quite a bit of guts to announce to the world you are HIV/AIDS positive.

In Africa people accept MMS easier as it is already in our culture to use traditional medicine, in Tanzania people easily accept alternative medicine, we embrace it and prefer it to western medicine and I will certainly be putting up a lot of HIV/Aids testimonials for all to see very shortly as I have handled atleast half a dozen cases and it goes on.

Others I have treated do not tell me it is HIV/AIDS, they tell me it is Diabetes, or stomach ulcers or whatever but to say they are HIV/AIDS is difficult, others who are HIV/AIDS even do not face me direct but send friends to get training and collect MMS for them, it is quite taboo I guess and some even go underground, but we shall change this perspective and I can vouch for Jim, HIV/AIDS is just like a flu it is cleared and healed within a month, will certainly be posting as much HIV/AIDS testimonials as possible with hospital proof of it and just for starters call my friend Naseem who I healed a friend of hers through me, my first HIV/AIDS treatment about 2 years ago and see what she says +254786142327, she is in Nairobi currently and can be reached on that number otherwise her usual tel number is +255 713412000

Give me to the end of this month and I will give you all the proof you need that what Jim says is 100% true.

Actually i do read once from someone in yahoo group about his HIV being cured.. he explain quite in details... i think i still got his email to the group... but will need time to find and post it copy....

Thank you for this information Michael. It at least helps with answering my question somewhat. Given the huge numbers of people affected by these diseases though, and how dramatic it would be to be cured, I would think that there would be more people sharing their success, even if naysayers were trying to shoot them down. I signed up on the curezone forum and there they have created an mms survey which is pretty revealing and in favor of mms working to help people with their diseases. I think about 130 people took the survey and out of those, about 80% found mms to be helpful in some way and 20% not. I skimmed through the things that people were helped with and as far as I could see, nobody mentioned HIV/AIDS or cancer success. Also, on curezone, everyone is anonymous and just go by user names, so if a person was cured of HIV/AIDS by mms, they shouldn't be afraid of sharing it with the world for fear of being "found out". And of course, there shouldn't be any stigma associated with having cancer, even if their names were revealed.

I think what you are saying about people in modern societies being somewhat lazy when it comes to taking care of their own health is somewhat true, but at the same time I do know an awful lot of people who really do take responsibility, and those same people would also be the ones who would be bold enough and have the gumption to shove their success results in the face of all the naysayers, if not just to say, "see, I told you so".

Anyway, it is a puzzle to me. Hopefully the man from Tanzania will post his success stories soon, and in "black and white", as he said.

Thank you for responding to my concern.

May you be well,

Scott

Hi ZnzMagic,

Thank you for your reply. Could you please tell me where you posted those testimonials that you mentioned, so I could take a look at them and add them to a list of testimonials that I'm trying to create? I would really appreciate it. Also, I'm really looking forward to the up and coming ones that you'll be posting soon, especially the "black and white". I really think we need more of the scanned in (or photographed) documentation. It's the next best thing to clinical trials. Actually, if we could get enough of them, I think they would be as good as clinical trials, at least as far as I'm concerned. I think it would be great if a website could be created dedicated to testimonials with supporting documentation. People would really take mms seriously if that could be done.

May you be well,

Scott

Hi Scott.

Thanks and here are some links as requested,

65 Healings from MMS!!! (Malaria, HIV, High Blood Pressure, Bed ridden invalids, Colds and Flus, Impotence, etc.)

Here is a list of people I have already healed, if you require telephone numbers and contacts let me know please..... Have already reached over 100 Healings from MMS in the mean time since the 65 Healings were shared beginning of May 2011 and many of those healed and already healing others and teaching them the knowledge.

1, 2, 3). Baba Bakari- an elderly man who was our house help in Dar es Salaam as I was growing up as a young boy was bed ridden due to his legs failing him, suffered from high blood pressure too and he started small doses of MMS and complained that the MMS really made his legs burn in pain and did not want to use it any more, but into the third day this pain disappeared and he could start getting up and walked with out any help and has progressed and is begging me for more MMS to cure his nephew of HIV, in his family several others were also completely treated of Malaria and other diseases, my story can be verified by calling the family who only speak Kiswahili unfortunately on tel no +255683716762 4, 5). Richard Mandara- a family friend we know through the Bahais in Dar es Salaam who has a chemists background. He started using MMS on himself for starters just to cure a common cold that was bothering him and remarked that it was like taking his body for a service in comparison to taking your car for a service and getting old oil and filters replaced. He has helped and cured several people the most amusing story from him was about his elderly mother who lived a few kilometers from his home. His mother was bed ridden as her legs had failed her and had not left her house for years. One day Richard comes out of his house and walks onto the street just a few days after having started his mother on MMS and sees her walking energetically without any help down the street towards him. He asks her what is going on and she replies she felt like going for a walk today and has come to pay him a visit- +2552278271230 is Richards tel no contact to verify my story and many more directly from him, he came for many more bottles from me and is more than likely sourcing his own supply this days, Richard also pointed out that the Masai use a natural volcanic salt in a goat soup once a year in one of their festivals around Lake Natron which they call KLORITI (CHLORITE and KLORITI - is this a coincidence) in their Masai language, more of that to follow in another amusing tale I shall be posting soon..... 6). Raymond Kiango- My brother, gave him and his wife a bottle of MMS and he reported many improvements in both of their health, can be contacted on +255754341681 7). My brother Aquilin Kiango is another person familiar with MMS been using it for the last 2 to 3 years, please do feel free to contact him for further verification and get any testimonial direct from him on +255773807991, +255754583979 8, 9, 10, 11). On Zanzibar Island, 3 of my watchman can be contacted who all had different ailments including their family members got relief from using MMS, as pointed out not everyone shares directly what disease they suffer from but all reported from getting great relief from the first nights sleep they had after using MMS, some had back pains which were gone immediately others their family jewels were not performing well but all were cure: Mwinchande +255762337139, Bushiri +255765491872, Saleh + 255772749877 , they all speak Kiswahili though and all beg me for more MMS. 12). A friend of mine called Naseem Bokhari +255 (0) 713 412000 had a friend on antiviral drugs due to having tested HIV +. The friend decided to try MMS and did the 15 drop cure 2 years ago and within 6 weeks went back to the clinic to test and the result came back negative. The clinic where she was attending wanted to know what she was using that as cured her as all others on antiviral drugs had remained positive, she was to scared to tell them that she had used MMS, the clinic asked her to come back in 3 months to retest, I am currently trying to locate Naseem and her friend to get an update and will post further regarding this case. Naseem has bought further bottles of MMS to help further friends since this first friend of hers indicating that MMS is working. Currently I know of 2 further people on MMS fighting their HIV + results, both in their 2nd weeks of treatment and I will be updating this forum with info. Naseem is out of the country currently but can be contacted on the above tel number for further verification and I shall certainly be bringing a great testimonial regarding HIV shortly right here as I said I am close to 2 different patients using MMS currently to cure themselves of HIV and I am a true believer that MMS works and does heal HIV. Can happily report that Naseem is back in the country and has confirmed her friend is still negative and as fit as a fiddle after being cured of her HIV and has even put on a lot of weight. 13, 14, 15). I live in Tanzania and have come across several people with malaria who have been cured within 3 to 4 hours of their malaria by using MMS. The first person was a young girl of 23 years old called Rukia Seif who after testing positive for malaria decided not to take hospital drugs but to use MMS. She took 15 drops in the evening went to sleep woke up 4 hours later due to neighbors firework display at midnight the same night and she felt completely free from malaria and has never looked back since just after this one dose without even repeating it, you can verify this by checking out here profile on Facebook and asking her directly:www.facebook.com/people/Rukia-Ally-Seif/1750571717 Rukias friend and mother where also treated forhealed of malaria. 16). Second testimonial regarding Malaria can be verified by contacting my mate Nishal Van Loon again on FB en-gb.facebook.com/people/Nishal-van-Loon/1272747711 He was a guest in my house and came down with malaria and we decided to do it scientifically this time by going to a hospital in Kinondoni area of Dar es Salaam and checking in their lab for malaria, surely the lab result came out as positive for malaria, we returned home, prepared a dose of 15 drops MMS, he drunk this, went to bed for 3 hours, the full time he sweated alot like he has never done so in his whole life, after 3 to 4 hours he repeated a second dose of 15 drops MMS and we drove back to the same hospital and lab where again he underwent a malaria test this time the result came out negative. We produced the lab result to the la technician from 4 hours previous showing he was positive with malaria how is it possible to be negative and we had checked this at the same lab, we asked the lab technician to double check that he was really negative and e said yes the result is negative, we simply left te clinic hit the Mango Village Garden in Kinondoni for a big bowl of goat soup and Nishal came back who and wrote a testimonial to be sent to Jim Humble which I never got around to doing, but this is the truth and Nishal can be contacted through his FB profile for further verification. 17). Thirdly my own son Nabil has also contacted malaria in the past and used MMS, was cured immediately as the 2 persons above and anyone do ubting my narratives about is free to contact me for further verification. 18). I was personally diagnosed to be HIV + on the 19th of February 2011, I did on the same day a CD4 test which read 200, refused all hospital drugs against HIV and told the doctor I want to try my own method as I trust MMS 100% and started on Protocol 1000 the following day, as the symptoms broke out I took 6 drops as I had no idea I was HIV + as a do an AIDS test almost every 3 months and did not suspect anything of the sort, on the day of being diagnozed I took 15 drops as I knew I could handle these and I had not caught up in new protocols, had an opportunistic disease of fresh scabs from the top of my head running down my neck and onto my right shoulder, had neck pains and awful ear ache that came and went, took some panadols as pain killers and the doctors also gave me anti biotics to take for 2 weeks to control the opportunistic disease which I did use. After 10 days of being on protocol 100 I had a very bad diarrhea, the following day I was sick over the toilet and greenish and yellowish mucus of sorts were ejected. On day 14 I repeated a CD4 test which read 275, which was a good indication to me that I was healing, had given up going up and concentrated on diet and exercise mainly running my guts out on the beach to help clear out my lungs and to stop smoking, I was a 40 cigarettes a day smoker, started enjoying a more easy lifestyle, I did go and show my doctor the new CD4 results and asked him how is it possible that my CD4 count had gone up yet I was not on any of the anti viral drugs. Soon after this my body was feeling weak and I lost the motivation of going running, after three weeks I still felt weak and carried on the protocol 1000, on day 25 since been diagnosed I woke up and decided to start the protocol 1000 later on in the day to give my body time to recover from all the detoxing, I walked to town and felt very fit inside and outside, I knew I was cured, this feeling goes on to today, my appetite is back and I am eating bigger portions of meals which I have not done for months, I am still carrying on with protocol 1000, today is day 30 since being diagnosed HIV +, but I am feeling great and even had a long night out with the boys last Saturday, I am as strong and feeling completely healed and happy. I had intended to carry on for 6 weeks the protocol 1000, just top make sure that the virus has gone as my experience from treating others it took the 6 weeks to completely detox, but I believe and know I am already cured and pa to go and get another CD4 test this coming Sunday to prove to the doctors that MMS works, after that I will see how I can arrange a test to confirm fully I am negative, as my past patients with HIV+ have all proved negative. I have kept and photocopied all medical records in the hope that I will post them on the forum as proof, have not decided yet if I will have the courage to do so, but I probably will just top show the word that HIV is just like any other disease and one does not have to go underground and hide the truth by denying ones condition. 19). Sophie Abdullah HIV 20). Anita Inshegoma HIV, used also herbal traditional medicine as a supplement. 21). Clara did not disclose what condition but heard from close friends it was HIV 22). John who is Claras boyfriend also cured of same ailments as Clara above. 23). Happiness Patrick younger sister with HIV in Oregon USA, treated her over the internet, sent here MMS instructions. 24). Happiness Patricks 2nd younger sister in Tanzania healed her of Asthma. 0754261704 25, 26). Sia a friend brought me her relatives one with repeating Malaria the other with stomach complaints, both healed 27). Masharubu Taxi Driver at Kisutu Round about in Dar HIV 28). Ambros Taxi Driver Courtyard Hotel Undisclosed condition 29). Saidi Taxi Driver Courtyard Hotel Undisclosed condition. 30, 31, 32). Mohd\'s daughter with asthma, Mohd and his wife did not disclose their conditions 33, 34). Ali Salehe Makwimbi (undisclosed condition) 0784150350, 0714882004, 0714 882004, and his wife Mrs. Makwimbi 075383905 had walking problems, something to do with her knees after a car accident of sorts quite a while back 35, 36, 37). Jennifer Gower (undisclosed general detox), and her daughter who had fever before an exam gave her 6 drops and she repeated 6 drops before taking exams, said she was on a natural high throughout the exams. A cousin of Jen also treated who was HIV/AIDS. 37, 38, 39). Zaynab Mafia Street, 0686171310 Mother with high blood pressure, younger sister diabetic, herself a head case so she claimed. 40, 41). Tess, student with common cold and flu, mother with back pains. 42, 43). Clark Arrington, 0789782260, general detox and his 13 year old adopted daughter HIV from birth. 44, 45, 46). Tea Room, Internet Cafe, Kisutu, undisclosed general detox, Msafiri and mates 47, 48, 49, 50). Ernest and Ally Kea, and their wives, Botanic, Tunguu, Zanzibar general detox, skin diseases and mental illness 0652333604 51). Anna- Animals on Zanzibar, has a donkey and dog sanctuary introduced her to MMS and we treating all kinds of animals. 52, 53, 54). Richard Kilonzo, World Tours and Safaris, Arusha, healed his mother with asthma, his relative with HIV and a blood transfusion gone wrong, himself of undisclosed conditions and I have taught him so that he is also treating further Masai\'s and others in critical conditions and otherwise. 55, 56, 57, 58). Mariam Mrema, malaria, her grand mother cannot walk, healed her knees, a relative with diabetes and another relative paralyzed from the waist down. 59, 60). Margrate Kiango and family, leg and skin diseases, unknow conditions. 61, 62). Aunt Heides kids in Morogoro, skin and boil conditions, one had a black patch on her face check and on her back, after using MMS it opened up on her face and a kind of dried cotton looking black dried substance was released and her back boil secreted worms of some type. 63, 64). Hussein, a chemist near the general hospital in Dar es Salaam, his wife had HIV, lots of skin scabs..... 65). Mama Bakari, malaria. Will send you more as I carry on healing. Looking forward to hearing from you soon and I thank you all in advance, Love and Peace, Thanks, Daud John Kiango (David) Hotlines: +255 (0) 777 844417, +255 (0) 789 780 404 This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it.


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The pleasure of it all is that you teach people to heal themselves and they learn very fast with such amazing success and they teach others and they also start researching further and all come to a conclusion that the medical pharma world is really messed up, they obviously also use traditional medicine, we call it ""MTI SHAMBA"" meaning TREE FARM, basically medicine from the bush or medical plants, barks, roots and herbs, locals originally come from the village and medicine from hospitals is not always available nor affordable so alternative medicine is nothing new but engraved in society, teenagers especially in the bush already know so many ways of healing using basic home remedies past down generations, especially in remote villages and ion the countryside still roomed by Masai and bushman living only on wild fruits and hunting, old man still have 3 odd wives and manage to change huts every night and are as strong as any young man, no hospitals out here.

HIV is curable using MMS

A friend of mine called Naseem Bokhari +255 (0) 713 412000 also currently reachable on +254786142327 had a friend on antiviral drugs due to having tested HIV +.

The friend decided to try MMS and did the 15 drop cure 2 years ago and within 6 weeks went back to the clinic to test and the result came back negative. The clinic where she was attending wanted to know what she was using that as cured her as all others on antiviral drugs had remained positive, she was to scared to tell them that she had used MMS, the clinic asked her to come back in 3 months to retest, I am currently trying to locate Naseem and her friend to get an update and will post further regarding this case.

Naseem has bought further bottles of MMS to help further friends since this first friend of hers indicating that MMS is working.

Currently I know of 2 further people on MMS fighting their HIV + results, both in their 2nd weeks of treatment and I will be updating this forum with info.

Naseem is out of the country currently but can be contacted on the above tel number for further verification and I shall certainly be bringing a great testimonial regarding HIV shortly right here as I said I am close to 2 different patients using MMS currently to cure themselves of HIV and I am a true believer that MMS works and does cure HIV.

Can happily report that Naseem is back in the country and has confirmed her friend is still negative and as fit as a fiddle after being cured of her HIV and has even put on a lot of weight.

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Scanned copies of hospital medical records shall of course be posted right here on this forum shortly, perhaps one day I do join www.curezone.com and other places to post my testimonials, but so far I feel right at home on this forum and will be updating testimonials here and concentrate on teaching people to heal.........

Perhaps the best idea would be for the Genesis 2 Church of Health and Healing to start a TV pilot documentary series of healings by MMS and other alternative methods to be broadcast on Discovery Channel and other distributors throughout the world than only will the skeptics be satisfied.... Perhaps the strategy is low key as it is, I always tell the people I heal to research the subject thouroughly and even the naturals can tell who is telling the truth.... Testimonials are all over the place and hard copy is on its way, be prepared...............

The truth is that for every disease a cure is available in the forest..... that is the way the Most High God created the universe I believe and trust..................

People are healing themselves here of HIV/AIDS just with MTI SHAMBA, that is the truth my friend.

Hello David,
A good friend of mine who has been hiv positive for the past 15 years has been taking the Protocol 1000 for a week now. Prior to taking the mms, he had t-cell and viral load, as well as liver enzyme check...complete blood count. Can you tell me what sort of testing will you have done to show the virus eliminated.
I'm excited that he will be free of hiv in 2-3 weeks! I have other friends that are also hiv positive and plan to discreetly share the exciting news.
Thank you for all you are doing to help save mankind!
Greg
Gainesville, Florida

Hi Greg.

The best test is what the person feels, and eventually the normal HIV/AIDS test done to show you are positive or negative. CD 4 count also gives you an indication where you are later on.

The viral load, CD 4 count and all that is not that important as you probably know, as the virus is flushed into the blood stream to get destroyed an increased viral load will show whilst actually it is decreasing, as Jim suggests forget the tests and concerntrate on healing, testing can be done months later the important thing is how the person feels inside and outside strength wise, spirit and physically, all the MMS does is get rid of clogs and blockages in your system here and there, restores or reboots the immune system and you still have to work to recover quickly, no smoking, plenty exercise and fresh air, good diet good lifestyle basically and diet.

Fifteen years is a long time, would suggest MMS baths to be added to protocol 1000, even go to 10 hours a day instead of 8, drop in some MMS2 later on for good measure, supposed to work good with MMS1 and its a great viral killer and you still have DMSO to add if need be, so to heal you will do no doubt about that and probably test negative too using the same test that tested you positive in the long run.

At the end of the day it is about using your sense on how best to heal. Always think and try and heal each individual situation to the best of your ability, the straight protocol 1000 taken slowly, no hurry is ok, but think and try and get better at it.

Testing done is the same testing performed at hospitals all over the country and in HIV/AIDS help and advice centers, tests are free of charge and given almost immediately on the spot in TZ.

My first HIV/AIDS patient had tested positive at one of these centers/clinic and was on their recommended ARVs or whatever they are called. She tested negative at the same center and the officer in charge asked her how come she had tested negative when she was positive and was on the same program as the others and no one else had tested negative. The lady was to scared to tell them the truth she had healed herself with MMS, at the time with the old protocol of 15 drops 3 times a day, she is well and healthy since, put on weight and is after more MMS.

After the 3 to 4 weeks when like other such conditions antigens or antibodies could still be left in your blood which are left behind to protect you from getting infected again, just like in malaria, you are healed but some small antibody remains and you will test positive and perhaps larger doses of MMS could be used to flush the blood later on, or other complimentary ways of cleansing the blood off all remaining antigen and anti bodies could be used such as B-12, Ocean Plasma, clean plain tasty salty water in English, I also recommend Kalonji oil and even liver cleansing with lemon and virgin olive oil, virgin coconut oil and fresh coconuts also are all supposed to have good cleansing and immune system building properties.

So eventually even though you test the same test which is only for testing positive (no one has so far come up with a test to test negative after all these years it seems) you will test negative eventually but as Jim says could take a year or never, but I know at least 2 persons I helped so far with a negative test within 3 to 4 months and more are to follow with the proof from the hospital records.

Thanks