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Gout - MMS? 07 Oct 2023 01:03 #80109

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Hello everyone, does anyone know if MMS works for gout?  I noticed on the MMS Testimonials website that there were positive reviews of clearing up gout, however I am hoping the veterans on the forum here have more comprehensive info on protocol etc.  I'm really suffering, it's a terrible pain and I don't believe being on steroids (which does work for a while) long term is the right thing to do. 

The frustrating thing about gout is that no one really seems to know what the exact route cause is...perhaps it is inflammatory foods and fructose, who knows.  I was drinking a lot of booze and had been taking a beef organs supplement for a while.

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Gout - MMS? 07 Oct 2023 10:10 #80114

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Gout has been around "forever".
And we do know pretty much what causes it, more or less.
It's Wikipedia, but still a decent intro and quick reference: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gout

It was very often a "wealthy man's disease", from people eating "too high off the hog", as it were.
Mostly from eating too much meats, fats, cheeses, dairy, etc., and not enough vegetables and the like.
"Peasants" and "Common Folk" would rarely get gout.
So diet usually plays a large part.
Imo, taking a "beef organs supplement" is strongly contraindicated if you have gout.
But there could be other factors, as well, causal and exacerbatory, like genetics and such.

I would bet, if you ate a McVegan diet for a month or so, +/-, that alone would probably easily cure it.
(see my website, link below) — [ you can always go back to eating poorly again later –
if you want to clear yourself out 'real quick', go on a Potato Mono-Diet for a couple of weeks or so ]

But (and), a good DETOX with MMS would most likely get rid of it fairly quickly, as well.
3 weeks of Protocol 1000 as per Jim Humble's "MMS Health Recovery Guidebook".
Since it tends to be inflammation-based, some more time with Protocol 1000+ is probably called for,
which incorporates DMSO, which is a really good anti-inflammatory, and if the
P1000 doesn't do it, the P1000+ most likely will.
I would do a Bentonite Clay Protocol, too, just to make sure a Mold/Fungal infection isn't an issue.

I would be very surprised if that didn't help you achieve Health Restoration fairly quickly.
And fairly cheaply, too, which is always a plus. (and no bad side effects, etc.)

If you decide to do it, and then do it, and get good results, PLEASE come back and
let us know what you did so that other people can learn from your experience.
 
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Gout - MMS? 07 Oct 2023 18:08 #80123

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First, I’m very sorry. It is an evil affliction.

Second, never ever listen to anyone who is not a sufferer…they are clueless and will regurgitate absolute garbage. That includes almost every doctor.

Many vegans have gout, so do vegetarians. I am vehemently against a long term vegan diet because that is what had me hobbling around the very first time. The high carb low fat heart healthy diet exacerbates gout, at least it does for me, and it’s what the professionals prescribe. The best place to start is to cut all alcohol, organ meats/supplements, sugars (especially fructose), vegetable oils, commercially grown grains, and drink lots of water. I know, getting to the bathroom is murder but you need to hydrate. A2 raw milk will help your body get your uric acid down. Hippocrates wrote about raw milk being a remedy for acute gout attacks over 2,400 years ago!

Others things that may or may not help are dark cherries (also possibly juice or extract), baking soda, ACV, organic lemon juice (fresh squeezed), quercetin, bromelain, or turmeric. There are lots of other things to try but that’s a good start. Most of those do nothing for me but A2 raw milk gets my uric acid under 6 in 2-3 days.

Order a uric acid meter, UA Sure II, and start testing every day. Start a food log and monitor your UA reactions. It can take up to 4 days for a spike in UA from a particular food. That will help you figure out your triggers.

Multiple rounds of MMS did not help me but it has others. I know of people that have put their gout in remission with a carnivore diet, doesn’t work for me. I can eat red meat without issues unless it’s the only thing I eat. With an Asian heritage, it seems I have a protein limit and if I pass it my UA starts to increase. Left unchecked, it compounds then BAM…you understand that all to well.

Getting your UA under 6 is paramount.  If you cannot get A2 raw milk you can try pasteurized milk but it’s a dead food and can lead to other problems long term. I would never fault you for using it in the interim to alleviate the pain. 

I’d be happy to discuss more but let’s first get you over this current flare. 

Yours in the struggle.
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Gout - MMS? 07 Oct 2023 23:34 #80129

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WADR, you are COMPLETELY talking out of your ass.

You ABSOLUTELY DO NOT know what you are talking about.

The information you are spewing is going to end up hurting someone if they listen to you.

It is actually VERY dangerous.

I hope no one takes your crap seriously.
 
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Gout - MMS? 08 Oct 2023 15:47 #80134

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See what I mean, those who don’t suffer from it just regurgitate what they’ve read with zero experience…this is true about everything today, unfortunately.

I’m sure William thinks raw milk is dangerous even though humans have been consuming it for thousands of years. My statement about Hippocrates can be easily confirmed but, of course, most won’t even bother because they have to keep their confirmation bias in tact. The Masai, Mongolians, other traditional people must be dying in droves…wait, aren’t they continually studied for their remarkable health? They are all raw milk drinkers. Don’t worry the FDA that lies about MMS must be telling the truth about raw milk, ridiculous.

You see Billy boy, not only have I done multiple raw milk only diets (fasts as people call them today), I also have travelled extensively to many remote regions of the world. I know that the vegan diet isn’t even possible for the vast majority of the world’s population and I have witnessed what is. Without animals, most will starve to death. Take your mask off and get out of your bubble, you might actually learn something.
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Gout - MMS? 08 Oct 2023 16:14 #80135

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You can try taking Mucinex or any OTC product containing Guaifenesin. It's a cough expectorant but it has "off label" use of draining down fluids of the lymph system similar to diuretics. There is even a patent and studies for the claim. It is said to cause people to lose alot of fluid weight. Guaifenesin is actually natural coming from the Guaf tree.
Your post caught my attention because something strange happened to me about 15 yrs ago.I had terrible gout in my big toe to the point I was limping around almost crippled. The strange part is i got a bad chest cold and purchased the high dose Mucinex (or something similar) to allow me to cough up and clear out my lungs,and without realizing it, my gout dissapeared. Ironically around the same time I was drinking a TON of Gatorade which I stopped drinking around the same time I had the chest cold. Have had ZERO gout in 15 yrs since. A connection? Coincidence? Was it the medicine? Was it stopping the gatorade? Both? Give it a shot!
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