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HELP (Age 30, blood test showed indication of familial hypercholesterolemia) 22 Jan 2023 22:14 #77514

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I'm about to turn 30 and went for a blood test recently. Background: Otherwise physically healthy 30-year-old male with no other known physical conditions (but with Autism Spectrum Disorder). I don't drink or smoke, and I'm about 6'1" at about 190 pounds. I'm not very physically active (especially during Winter).

I'm also not 100% certain on what to make of these blood tests. I know that some people in the community are skeptical of them. I'm trying my best to make the right decision here.

I had a bit of a scare as my cholesterol has never been tested (but my mom encouraged me to go do it because family issues and such).

This was a fasting blood test, and my results for cholesterol were:
Total Cholesterol: 4.97
Triglycerides: 1.30
HDL-Cholesterol: 1.34
LDL-Cholesterol: 3.04
Non-HDL-Cholesterol: 3.63

I received a message stating the results indicate familial hypercholesterolemia, which basically means a much higher risk of heart attacks at young ages (50's).

As for my blood pressure, it still seems to be okay, I've had it down to 124/80 if calm enough, and I also had other things analyzed in the blood test:
Sodium 138 (Normal 135-145)
Potassium 4.0 (Normal 3.5-5.1)
Creatinine 90 (Normal 40-95)

Now, I looked the Cholesterol results up and my levels don't seem particularly awful right now, but presumably this gets worse and with time causes blockages. As I'm sure many people here can appreciate, the last thing I would want to do is resort to Big Pharma medications. 

I haven't tried MMS yet, but I feel like this is the shove I need to go ahead with it. I'm already familiar with distilled water, as I bought a water distiller last month. I began drinking distilled water just last month, as it seemed like a good idea after a lot of research. I know that this is the best water to use for MMS.

My question is if anybody has experience with this issue in particular, or in general if they have used MMS to help them lower their cholesterol, particularly LDL? Or even with the treatment/removal of blockages? I did read through Jim Humble's book a long time ago to get an idea of everything, but I am curious if anybody has any testimonies and/or feels confident that MMS may be able to help me, especially with how early this has been found.

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HELP (Age 30, blood test showed indication of familial hypercholesterolemia) 23 Jan 2023 07:36 #77522

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I'm unsure about the ability of "MMS" to make a difference in genetic disorders.
I haven't read anything about that to date.

I think it might not be able to deal with something that is genetic-based.
That sounds kind of "common sense" to me, but I could be wrong.

Maybe others will have more info.

Although, I am fond of the "Can't Hurt, Might Help" aspects of MMS/CDS.

You might want to (should probably) make sure and eat a good diet.
I have information about the "McVegan Dietary Lifestyle" on my website, link below.

And some people have found some good relief from ASD issues using MMS, too.
(a la Kerri Rivera, et al.)

I thought I replied to you or someone about drinking distilled water, but now
I don't see that. Maybe something happened.

Anyway, I don't think drinking distilled water is a great idea.
It can be dehydrating and also leach vitamins and minerals from your body
due to its purity. So be careful with that.
I've never read anywhere where anyone suggested drinking distilled water.

Jim Humble suggests using STEAM Distilled Water for MMS. (ideally)
 
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HELP (Age 30, blood test showed indication of familial hypercholesterolemia) 12 Feb 2023 18:03 #77666

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Cholesterol is your friend, and not your enemy, it does not cause heart disease. Uffe Ravnskov & Malcolm Kendrick have written a lot about FH, look them up.
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HELP (Age 30, blood test showed indication of familial hypercholesterolemia) 12 Feb 2023 21:22 #77667

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Even by conventional standards, your #'s are not high & cholesterol is not something you want to reduce. I suggest reading this book, which will set your mind at ease.
www.amazon.com/Clot-Thickens-enduring-mystery-disease/dp/1907797769
 
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HELP (Age 30, blood test showed indication of familial hypercholesterolemia) 24 Feb 2023 03:16 #77740

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I actually checked with my mom who probably has FH (never officially stated, but her LDL was above 4 before she went on statins and the probability of inheriting this gene is 50%). Any "heart issues" come from her side of the family. And autism. I should also note that stress and obesity also ran rampant in her family, though..... I've come to the conclusion that having FH alone is pretty inconsequential.

Since 37 she was on statins, her LDL was kept at 2.4 or lower the entire time, and then less than 15 years later they found two blockages in her arteries (50% for one and 70% for the other). Now she's on even more statins and they want to keep her LDL at 1.8 or lower. I can pretty much confirm that, in her case as well, what caused her blockages could NOT have been the cholesterol.

After doing some research, and reading your replies, I am not concerned anymore about cholesterol.

Side-note: High blood pressure also "runs in her family" (her father died at 64, with insane blood pressure of like 200+/120+ for many years; consequently I never even knew my grandfather from her side)... yet she recently changed her diet and lost a ton of weight. Sure enough, her blood pressure improved significantly and now she wonders why she still needs her blood pressure medication. Because of all these things going on, she's starting to question Big Pharma as well.

As for myself, I've been testing my blood pressure more and getting excellent numbers (110s/70s, even 100s/60s sometimes).

I'm not on any meds and I don't intend to start, that's for sure. Well, except perhaps for MMS if we're counting that.

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HELP (Age 30, blood test showed indication of familial hypercholesterolemia) 24 Feb 2023 03:48 #77742

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I appears to me that you have little to worry about - your results are within normal range. The cholesterol may be a tad high but that can be easily remedied by eliminating as many carbs from your diet as you can. I had much higher readings than you and my doctor told me that I would die if I didn't take statins regularly. Well - I took his statins for 2 weeks and almost died of terrible cramps from hip to toe. I went on a (mostly) keto diet for 6 months and all readings were perfectly normal (with a different doctor). AND I did not give up my red wine.
You have to remember - doctors are basically agents of big pharma - dishing out allopathic medicines for real and in many cases imagined problems.
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HELP (Age 30, blood test showed indication of familial hypercholesterolemia) 27 Feb 2023 22:26 #77773

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You do not reduce cholesterol by eliminating carbs, you reduce cholesterol by increasing carbs (and fiber).

Cholesterol problems stem specifically from not enough carbs and high meat and fat diets.
Anything that claims otherwise is JUNK pseudo-science. (lies, BS, ignorance, etc.)

"Keto diets" are extremely dangerous and extremely unnecessary.
ALL of the "keto" and similar FAD diet PUSHERS died from heart disease, strokes, etc.

See my page on the McVegan Dietary Lifestyle on my website as suggested by John McDougall.
 
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HELP (Age 30, blood test showed indication of familial hypercholesterolemia) 28 Feb 2023 13:59 #77785

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A human has no daily carbohydrate requirement, we have a fat and protein requirement but we do not need to consume carbs. It has been in the medical literature for well over a century, IIRC...almost two. The advantage of being omnivores is that we can subsist on virtually anything, many people survived famines on carbohydrates but they became, of course, malnourished. The deadliest thing people consume are seed and vegetable oils, the hydrogenated and non-hydrogenated sugars/syrups are a close second. Every word on food packaging has an approved definition, enriched means the processing stripped so much nutrition out of the food that nutrients had to be added back. That is why most experts recommend shopping the periphery of the store... meaning meat, fruits, vegetables, and some dairy only. There are  several other items that are ok such as nuts, beans etc but sprouting or fermenting are necessary for proper digestion and nutrient absorption, what our ancestors figured out. Glyphosate is also a growing problem so organic is what should be consumed, albeit it can get cost prohibitive. Non-GMO doesn't mean pesticides and fertilizers weren't used so again, organic is best since something as simple as oats are loaded with Glyphosate...the Non-GMO testing higher amounts than the genetically engineered oats.

Personally I do not advocate a particular diet and most can be harmful if not implemented properly. However, I do advocate against being a devout vegan as that can permanently damage ones body especially when back filling with lots of soy etc. There is a really good book from a former devout vegan, The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith. She discusses how she destroyed her thyroid and the other ailments she developed, it is also extremely well referenced. Does that mean one cannot be a vegan for a period of time to help clear up some issues, of course not...I have a friend that did just that. I also have friends that too have permanent damage from being long term vegans, I fortunately switched to being a vegetarian in the 90s after being a vegan for only a couple of years. I later went on a whole grain low fat diet for many years, developing a couple medical conditions that should have not been possible based on my diet. Switching to mostly animal sources for fat and protein has enabled me to manage my conditions entirely with diet. I'm on a quest to remove them entirely, why I'm a member here.

I want to end with, if you must take supplements due to a particular diet, that way of eating is not natural. If ones diet does not provide all of the nutrients needed then I recommend a change. The closer to the source, plants and animals, the better the nourishment. If you have a need for carbs, eat vegetables over processed food. For those that can't live without bread, learn to make it yourself (a decent bread maker is worth it) and shop for organic grains that have undergone minimal processing. Red Wheat, White Wheat Berries etc can be bought whole, allowing them to be soaked and/or sprouted before being ground. A great source of information for the ancient, or proper, way of processing food is the Weston A. Price foundation. Getting back to a more whole foods diet will take more time but it'll also return the kitchen, instead of the TV, as the heart of the family.

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HELP (Age 30, blood test showed indication of familial hypercholesterolemia) 09 Mar 2023 11:05 #77854

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Human Beings are NOT "omnivores".
Except in the sense that we are "FORCED" omnivores.
(through misinformation, disinformation, advertising, marketing, peer pressure,
governmental propaganda, familial and societal brainwashing, schools "re-education", etc.....)

Human Beings are True Herbivores.
That is why consuming an omnivorous diet causes us to become sick and die,
from a variety of diseases and illnesses that are food-borne.

A TRUE Omnivore, like a dog or a bear, has FANGS that extend well above and below
the other teeth, and they can consume "as much" fat and animal flesh as they want
and they do not get sick with heart disease, strokes, osteoporosis, cancer, etc.
(like TRUE Carnivores)

Human teeth are more like a cow's or a horse's. They are made to cut vegetation
and grind it for consumption.

The human digestive system puts us in the extreme herbivore class.
(stomach acid, length of intestines compared to body size, etc.)
If you stop consuming animal flesh for a few months or so, and then try to
eat it again, you will get sick with diarrhea, stomach cramps, etc.,
because you are consuming an unnatural food that our digestive systems
are not made to consume. (this is why veg(etari)ans are so careful to not
eat meat or meat broth, etc.)

And there other biological and physiological differences that support this
basically obvious scientific fact.

And there ARE daily carbohydrate requirements for humans.
Merely ONE example is The Dietary Guidelines for Americans, which recommends that
carbohydrates make up 45% to 65% of total daily calories. (which is still "old school")
There are other similar suggestions.
And THAT is where you GET fiber, which everyone should know by this point is
EXTREMELY important in a well balanced diet. (animal flesh and fat has basically no fiber)

Any information you are using that is "well over a century or two old" is OLD "science", and
MUCH of it is incorrect. Most doctors get TWO weeks of dietary training in school.
And most Dieticians don't really get much more. They are ALL "Old School".

The so-called and self-proclaimed "experts" are BOUGHT and PAID for by the
National Cattlemen's, Pork, Dairy, and other Associations, Boards, and Councils,
basically "BIG Ag", that are strongly lobbyist organizations because they will tell you
ANYTHING to get you to buy their products so they can make money off of you.
Often with the Government's help.

"The Vegetarian Myth" has been THOROUGHLY debunked as BULLSHIT.
It's like some IDIOT taking too much ClO2, gets sick, and then writes a book about
how harmful ClO2 is, etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum.

The McVegan Dietary Lifestyle is the MOST healthful AND natural way of eating for a human animal.
 
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