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Is anyone else disillusioned with the complicated MMS process? 03 Feb 2022 06:30 #73737

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I really don't mean to make this a negative post, but I have to tell my thoughts about the entire MMS process. And these are not only my thoughts, but includes actual rules from Jim Humble's "MMS Health Recovery Guidebook" as the source of my perceived negativity.

I fairly recently found out about MMS / chlorine dioxide and the many things it can help the body heal from. After hearing Lindsay Wagner's testimony of how it helped her and reading many other testimonies from other people, it seemed a no-brainer to find out how to get some MMS for myself for those times I am sick or for even something worse. But I have become disappointed after finding out taking MMS isn't as simple as I thought it was. The impression I got from all the testimonies was that all it took was to just take 1 dose of MMS (or maybe a few doses) and you would be healed. Though, I don't remember anyone specifically saying they just took 1 dose - or even a few doses - it certainly didn't come across to me that they were taking 1 dose every hour, for 8 hours a day, every day until healed (and that they had to make a fresh batch each and every time also). In fact, instead of just simply taking 1 dose (or a few doses) and then at that point you are healed, the truth is the entire MMS process is a very complicated process, as I found out from Jim Humble's book. Here is what I mean:

1. You have to make a fresh batch each time you take it (You cannot make a batch then store it away to use the rest of the day or for the next few weeks). As I point out later in this list, this would have to be done 8 times a day, possibly for up to 21 days.
2. There are certain foods and drinks not allowed while taking MMS or otherwise they could cancel out the effectiveness of MMS (though, Jim Humble says you can have those restricted food and drinks 2 hrs before or after you begin your daily MMS protocol ... which is still somewhat of a hassle)
3. You have to take the dose 20-30 minutes before each meal. Each meal should be no more than 10 minutes long, so you can have a 30 minute window to take your next dose of MMS after you finish your meal (for example, take the MMS at 8:00am, eat breakfast between 8:20 - 8:30am, take your next hourly dose at 9:00am ... and the same procedure with lunch and dinner).
4. During the hours you are actually taking your MMS doses, you should not eat big “feast” types of meals, but rather eat smaller meals and/or snacks
5. If taking supplements, Humble says it is very important to space them out from the times you are taking your MMS doses by at least two hours, or even more if you can. Never take supplements at the same time you take your MMS dose.
6. You have to learn about DMSO and the rules and safety precautions that come with it
7. You have to do the Starting Procedure for 4 days - and take it hourly for 8 hrs each day - before getting to the main procedure (the Protocol 1000 procedure)
8. At this point you have finally gotten to the Protocol 1000 procedure, only to find out you have to take the MMS hourly for 8 hrs each day (just like with the Starting Procedure), until you get well. If you are doing the detoxification process, then you do the hourly doses for 8 hrs each day for 21 days.
9. You have to brush your teeth with the MMS each day during the entire time you are taking the MMS
10. On top of all the above - from what I've seen people say about the taste - MMS tastes extremely bad, and that is something else that has to be dealt with.

Is anyone following all these rules? Has all these rules made it very difficult for you to follow through with taking the MMS "the right way" ... especially if you have to go to a job each day and cannot follow the "make a fresh batch hourly for 8 hrs each day" requirement? Was it a big disappointment and a turn off when you found out it wasn't simply a matter of purchasing MMS and taking a dose (or a few doses) then healed of whatever problem you had?

As I wrote earlier, I don't remember any of the testimonials pointing out the complicated process of taking MMS. They instead made it sound as if they just simply took a few doses of MMS and they were healed of whatever problem they had. It makes me wonder if they actually followed all of Jim Humble's procedures or if they just simply took the MMS until they were healed and basically skipped all his other rules. Do you think this is what they did? Are other people here, when sick, taking the MMS but skipping most of the rules in Jim Humble's book?

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Is anyone else disillusioned with the complicated MMS process? 03 Feb 2022 10:33 #73738

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I'm sorry, I usually don't have a go at people and try and be nice, especially to new comers, but this takes the cake.

You have been introduced to one of the most important healing medicines in the history of mankind that can cure everything from cancer to malaria and many many other ailments, and instead of embracing it you make up a long list of things that are required for chlorine dioxide to be used successfully.

Seriously, what do you want, just to swallow a pill and it will make everything alright.

So you have to adapt your diet.
So you can't eat/drink things high in antioxidants.
So you have to do it for 8 hours a day.

So what! It heals you! And it's not a permanent thing you have to do. Usually 3 weeks and it's over. That's not exactly a lifetime.

- Oh and you can make an all-day bottle of MMS1 if you want to, you don't have to make a fresh batch if you can't, just keep it out of the sun in a dark place.
- And you don't have to brush your teeth with MMS1 while taking MMS1 orally, I don't know where you got that from!
In fact from what we have learnt since, MMS1 is too acidic and it can remove the enamel from your teeth while brushing so it is NOT recommended to brush you teeth with MMS1 UNLESS you add baking soda or something to make it more alkaline.

I don't think you quite comprehend just what you have discovered in chlorine dioxide. Use it, don't use it, it is up to you.
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Is anyone else disillusioned with the complicated MMS process? 03 Feb 2022 22:51 #73741

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Wow complain much? I'm with stu77000 reply to your post. I've done the MMS protocol 2 times in the last year just as a detox to see how to do it and how I reacted. I did the Jim Humbles 3 drop dose method the 1st time and Andreas Kalcker's method the 2nd time. Andreas method was much easier to do and I'll continue to detox 2-3 times a year with it. You should be grateful for having this information that could be lifesaving. You actually have choices and if you just want the easy way out you can choose Big Pharma, although you won't get well going that route.
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Is anyone else disillusioned with the complicated MMS process? 04 Feb 2022 00:40 #73742

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Ive had success simply doing 4 drops an hour away from other supplements and meals. The protocols are the best way, but you can still make it work in a more flexible way too.
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Is anyone else disillusioned with the complicated MMS process? 04 Feb 2022 11:29 #73751

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Is anyone else disillusioned with the complicated MMS process? 04 Feb 2022 12:22 #73754

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You know, I just get the sense that you are not really here for help with the protocols, but rather, looking to find something negative to write about.  Your title gives it away then your first sentence followed by a lengthy detailed post with an itemized list of your "complaints."  Then the questions in the second to last paragraph seal the deal--all an attempt to pull out negative experiences.  People who are truly looking for assistance are not going to write a post in the way in which yours is constructed.  Nothing about your post seems genuine to me and that is why you got the feedback you did.   If I am wrong then I apologize in advance. 

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Is anyone else disillusioned with the complicated MMS process? 04 Feb 2022 13:55 #73756

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Yeah look, I didn't mean to come across as nasty. But that is one lengthy post of negatives for such an amazing medicine.

If you are looking to discuss CD and find ways around the negative aspects then post away.

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Is anyone else disillusioned with the complicated MMS process? 04 Feb 2022 21:40 #73761

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So you have to adapt your diet.
So you can't eat/drink things high in antioxidants.
So you have to do it for 8 hours a day.

So what! It heals you! And it's not a permanent thing you have to do. Usually 3 weeks and it's over. That's not exactly a lifetime.

 

I basically agree with your statement and I think you made a good point, in that we only have to put up with doing those things for a fairly short time and then it's over. That is true. Go back and read my original post and you will see that at no point did I say it is not worth the trouble of following all the rules if you are seriously sick. For those of you that think I was complaining too much in that post, you failed to understand why I compiled that lengthy list of rules in Jim Humble's book. It wasn't so much to complain, but instead it was to point out the difference between the perception of taking MMS when someone first hears about this great medicine vs the reality of the steps that have to be taken when digging deeper into using MMS. My biggest point I was making in my original post was that the process of taking MMS wasn't at all as simple as all the testimonials make it out to be. All the testimonials (that I've seen, at least, from various sources) come across as if they just took one - or a few doses of MMS - and they were then healed of their problem. I was expressing my disappointment that it wasn't as simple as the testimonials come across to be. And I'm sure that the majority of people that first heard about MMS and seen the testimonials, felt the same way I did - at least originally - when they eventually found out that it wasn't a case of just simply taking a few doses and you're healed. I am just speaking for what I believe is the majority of the people's thoughts about MMS vs the reality of it, when they began their journey to using MMS.

Another big reason for my original post I made, was to find out if there is any significant number of people taking MMS without following most of the rules in Jim Humble book. As I said earlier, I don't remember any of the testimonials saying they took all kinds of step before - or during - their intake of MMS. Steps such as:

* They didn't say they made a fresh batch each time thy took MMS.
* They didn't say there was a Starting Procedure of 4 days and that the MMS had to be taken hourly for 8 hours a day.
* They didn't say the main protocol (Protocol 1000) also had to be taken hourly for 8 hours a day, (at least until healthy, and maybe up to 21 days). 
* They didn't say you have to take the dose 20-30 minutes before each meal, and that each meal should be no more than 10 minutes long, so you can have a 30 minute window to take your next dose of MMS after you finish your meal.
* They didn't say that during the hours you are actually taking your MMS doses, you should not eat big “feast” types of meals, but rather eat smaller meals and/or snacks.
* They didn't say they were brushing there teeth with MMS during the entire time while taking the treatment.

I didn't point out the above rules again to make it look like I am once again "complaining". I actually left out some of the other rules. The other rules are easier to deal with. These rules I posted above are what I am focused more on. The big thing I want to know here is: are the vast majority of the people in the testimonials following those specific rules I posted above? (Again, I'm not talking about the other rules in my original post, but only the ones above). Or, are they not following those rules and instead just simply taking the MMS until healed (and this includes if they are skipping the "Starting Procedure" and going straight to taking regular doses of MMS, as well as skipping most other rules)? These questions are not only for stu77000, but for anyone else as well. There are testimonials from all over the world. What I wonder is... has the majority of people from all the other countries outside the United States actually read any of Jim Humble's books about MMS? I'm not saying they didn't, but I think it is a legitimate question. That is why I wonder how many people in the various MMS testimonials have actually read his book and therefore followed his rules. 

Whatever the case, I am very surprised that apparently nobody else here has at no point had the same thoughts and feelings that I've posted in my original post and this post.

stu77000, you wrote: "You don't have to brush your teeth with MMS1 while taking MMS1 orally, I don't know where you got that from!
In fact from what we have learnt since, MMS1 is too acidic and it can remove the enamel from your teeth while brushing so it is NOT recommended to brush you teeth with MMS1 UNLESS you add baking soda or something to make it more alkaline."

I had assumed you have read Jim Humble's book "MMS Health Recovery Guidebook", but I guess you have not? There is a section in the book - Chapter 5, pages 73-75 - in which he talks extensively about the importance of brushing your teeth with MMS during the time you are being treated with MMS. As for your belief MMS is "too acidic" our teeth, I will copy and paste below what Jim Humble says about that:

You don’t have to worry about the alkalinity of the sodium chlorite nor the acidity of MMS1 leaching mercury out of your teeth. This is because the acidity in the MMS activator when mixed drop for drop with the MMS (sodium chlorite) which is alkaline, is calculated to mostly cancel one another out, leaving the MMS1 solution much closer to neutral. The acidity is then much less than most fruits and cannot hurt your teeth or leach mercury from your fillings. Keep in mind that fruits and vegetables are acidic in nature more so than MMS1 doses. 

I will finish this message by saying I hope now, after reading this post, that everyone now has a better understanding of why I made my original post - that I had the same thoughts and feelings tht I'm sure many people have had when learning about MMS - and that I did not make it for the purpose of "complaining" or being "negative".
 
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Is anyone else disillusioned with the complicated MMS process? 04 Feb 2022 22:07 #73763

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CowdogUp,

You said that you use Andreas Kalcker's method. Where can I see this specific method? Is it in a certain book he wrote? Is it in a video I can find?

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