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inefficient CDS 22 Aug 2021 17:17 #70594

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Hi CLO2

"8.0mg X 37.5% activation = 3.0mg of CLO2 - The other 62.5% of the CLO2 is lost in the process of making the CDS."

An update on the conversion efficiency when making CDS. The method Andreas Kalcker showed in his recent video, which I developed, (2 infusions and a total activation time of about 24 hours) has an efficiency of 45%.

In recent tests I am consistently seeing 50% and higher. One test resulted in 84% conversion efficiency and activation was completed in 3 hours. Still testing...

 
Using equal amounts of NaClO₂ and HCl of these concentrations is not the most efficient way of making CDS. Just by doubling the amount of acid, you can use twice the amount of water for a similar (actually slightly greater) concentration!
 
My testing of resultant CDS (using reagent test strips) shows very good conformity to the expected concentrations from the CDS wizard . Simplicity of recipe is good but because people can only obtain certain concentrations of reagents, it is important to be able to adjust the recipes to what is available.
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Recipe for a single-day dose of CDS 30 Aug 2021 03:50 #70742

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Sodium chlorite has a purity of 78%
How to calculate the amount of sodium chlorite to make 100ml of mms solution?

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dissolving NaClO₂ 30 Aug 2021 21:07 #70757

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Hi Caneki

The standard 'technical grade' NaClO₂ powder is 80% NaClO₂ and 20% other chemicals, mainly NaCl.
Standard MMS is a 28% solution of NaClO₂ technical grade powder or flakes to produce 22.4% of NaClO₂.
A simple way of preparing this is to dissolve 280g of the powder in 720g (or ml) of water to produce 1kg of stock solution.
If your powder is slightly lower purity (78% rather than 80%), you can use slightly more powder and less water. 287g of powder and 713g of water will produce a similar final concentration of NaClO₂. Having said that, it is not worth getting too hung up about the exact measurements and percentages because all of these figures have an inaccuracy associated; your 78% purity is probably a guaranteed minimum and the actual content may well be closer to 80% anyway.

Stir the solution until the powder/flakes fully dissolve(s). 

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Recipe for a single-day dose of CDS 31 Aug 2021 01:49 #70760

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Andy , when i looked at your spread sheet the naclo2 was measured in grams i am more familiar with measuring ml. Am i doing something wrong?

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dissolving NaClO₂ 31 Aug 2021 04:24 #70762

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grammes or millilitres 31 Aug 2021 08:11 #70764

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Hi Davis
If the concentration of the stock is set at greater than 50%, the equations alter to calculate grammes rather than ml on the assumption that you are using undissolved powder rather than a solution. (The maximum concentration of NaClO₂ in water is dependent upon temperature of course but is around 28%.)

NB concentration is not the same as purity. The purity of the powder that is used to make the solution indicates how much of the target component there is as against other compounds that are byproducts or impurities—typically 80% for NaClO₂. The concentration of a liquid is how much of the target is in a given amount of the solution—typically up to 36% for these reagents.

When I looked at the CDS spreadsheet, I noticed a couple of blue warning triangles on cells A7 & B7. It seemed to be complaining about the NaClO₂ solution concentration and I reset that to 22,4% and it removed the warning triangles.

I also discovered a bug on the recipe checker, which I have now corrected. Thanks

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Recipe for a single-day dose of CDS 03 Sep 2021 07:53 #70876

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Hello Andy, I'm a new member who is familiar with MMS since 2011.
When I read your August 31 post with that spreadsheet, I felt that you're quite knowledgable about the subject. Although I have no knowledge of the 3-capital letter terms in it, except MMS. I'm not a pharmacist or scientist, used to those terms/formulas.

I've ordered 2 bottles  from Jim Humble at the time, just to have a good remedy in the house. I've never had a condition in need of ingesting MMS as a cure, and I'm fortunate to be a holistic nutritionist and health-coach, choosing organic food since 1973. Just to explain a bit about myself and my background. I've ordered 2 bottles again last year March, when the pandemic was announced, and after reading Jim Humble's recommendation to ingest MMS as a preventive measure, I've prepared it for a few weeks, and took a once-a-daily dose of 5 drops activated MMS. I'm no believer in infectious diseases flying around and catching all living human bodies without exception. I believe that a strong and balanced immune system, without ailments, can withstand infection. In fact, to me it's the nr. 1 condition to be alive and kicking.
I'm a strong believer in letting the physical body with all its natural functions be the commander on the bridge of my sailing ship on my life's ocean.

This leads to my request about how to prepare the same remedy without the nauseous effect. When I took MMS on a daily basis, my physical resistance grew so strong, due to the effect of nausea afterwards, that I was even nauseous by thinking about taking it. I decided to stop ingesting it, and now have NAC, Quercetin, and Moringa tea in the house. (not using all at the same time). My request is, and I hope you'll be able to give advice, could you make a list of those 3 capital-letter-terms, and explain in simple words what they are and what they stand for? There are other posts here where members use those terms, and I can't make chocolate of what one member explains about preparing a remedy in such a way, that nausea isn't occurring as much as in the "traditional" way. For I'm looking for such a recipe, see what I mean?

The second request I've got, is how to use MMS for water purification. The initial purpose of this remedy during the time Jim Humble travelled in Africa. As far as the use of MMS is reported, I've looked around a bit, online, and found that the first time MMS was applied as a remedy, was in a Belgian coastal resort, where eczema and psoriasis patients visited the spa, receiving treatment with MMS. Any other reader of this post is welcome to answer my requests, but please, use terms that I'm able to understand?
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MMS acronyms & easier to stomach solutions 03 Sep 2021 14:12 #70884

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Hi Devon

I'm a relative newbie but I'm a researcher and have quickly dug into the whole ClO₂ field, which seems to complement the functional medicine & naturopathic approaches very well.

Attached is a nice list of MMS acronyms. The term MMS itself stands (originally) for 'Miracle Mineral Supplement'. I gather (from a piece towards the end of one of the videos that I came across) that Jim Humble deliberately chose this somewhat off-putting name so that it would get quickly ridiculed and dismissed rather than deliberately attacked in a serious way. The 'supplement' was changed to 'solution' due to a challenge about the technical term 'supplement' and some people use a different value for the first 'M' to avoid being too wacky. I tend to use the proper chemical nomenclature of NaClO₂ when referring to the stock form and always used HCl to activate it although any acid can be used and some instructions identify citric acid as an activator. I prefer hydrochloric acid because it's present in the stomach, because the chemical reaction is more straightforward and because the co-products are simple and non-toxic.

I understand what you mean about the unpalatable nature of MMS1 (activated NaClO₂) and the standard answer is to dilute it further. The other route is to prepare a pure solution of the ClO₂ gas (CDS), which has a neutral pH and no residues and cross-products. This is my preferred method and has become our standard way of taking ClO₂. You need a little bit of kit to make it but it is not difficult and although it is not instantaneous, it can be produced within the day or overnight as we prefer to do.

The methodology that I use is that developed by CLO2 and demonstrated by Andreas Kalcker in this video  but I fully activate the NaClO₂ and only use a single activation. I react it at room temperature and in the morning put it in the fridge for an hour or so before opening it up to remove the shot glass of reacted chemicals and decanting the [CDS] solution into dark coloured glass bottles. This reduces the amount of ClO₂ gas that escapes because above about 10°C the ClO₂ gas comes out of solution more readily. I also tend to aim at 4000ppm rather than 3000ppm, which is classic CDS because this seems to be a good balance between being sufficiently concentrated that a single (350ml) amount lasts more than a week but not too concentrated that dosing requires anything other than a measuring spoon.

In terms of ClO₂ being used for water purification, you can do this on a small scale by activating a few drops of NaClO₂ with HCl and then adding it to a container of water. Industrially (in swimming pools and municipal water treatment works) they have automated equipment to dosed the solutions into the water. Scotmas is a world leading manufacturer of such technology and happens to have their main base close to where I live.

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MMS acronyms & easier to stomach solutions 03 Sep 2021 17:27 #70885

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Thanks a bunch, Andy, for your explanations and the document with MMS acronyms. What a relief! Although it's a new exercise for my brain to delve into scientific subjects and terms/acronyms. Since the start of 2020, I've made myself familiar in fast forward mode, by studying scientific reports on the subject of SARS-Cov-2 and the vaccines coming on the market treating it. Judy Mikovits, who uses many medical terms, as easy as if talking about food ingredients, was my best teacher, presenting her story in her book Plague of Corruption. (a free PDF download online).

I'm a person who loves to understand what I'm dealing with and using, while making remedies or when informing others. MMS or Chlorine Dioxide is receiving quite an uprising now, and I've found Adreas Kalcker's video, the one you've included in your post as a link, at the information source Prepare for Change, where I'm sharing quite a bit of posts myself, about remedies, and MMS in particular. And so, I understood what you meant by "gas".

After watching Quantum Leap with Mark Grenon, I entered the link in the end, about the Genesis2Church, and found a page on that site with protocols. 
Read or Download Jim Humble Genesis 2 Church MMS Protocols (g2church239.org)  In it there's a helpful suggestion regarding the taste, which is gruesome to me:

Taste Management:  If you put a pinch or smaller of baking soda in MMS solution it becomes odourless and somewhat tasteless. A splash of pure cranberry juice or organic apple juice, with no vitamin C added is always a good choice. The cranberry juice I use is sweetened with stevia. cranberry juice as the mix fluid means the MMS levels can get quite high before you even notice. Any of the above additives can be adjusted to your own taste without diluting potency of the MMS (activated sodium chlorite)".

Regarding this part of your post "I gather (from a piece towards the end of one of the  videos  that I came across) that Jim Humble deliberately chose this somewhat off-putting name so that it would get quickly ridiculed and dismissed rather than deliberately attacked in a serious way",  I tend to believe that he was attacked in a serious way. It's also possible that Jim Humble called it "Mineral Miracle Solution" after discovering that his expedition-team-members recovered from malaria, when Jim chose to use an experiment, offering the waterpurifier as a remedy to those floored with the fever. This was a surprise to say the least, to Jim himself also, hence: Miracle. Maybe?

An example of serious attack is here:
Jim Humble's impact in Uganda, offering MMS to villages suffering from malaria, here are a few videos, present on Jim Humble's site:
Videos - Jim Humble | MMS | Master Mineral Solution | Miracle Mineral Solution | JIMHUMBLE.CO
ignited fierce attempts by Big Pharma, to dismiss MMS as a useful remedy. The Red Cross, present in these videos, as co-ordinator of this experiment, providing the remedy and materials, even nurses, and assistants, wearing Red Cross t-shirts, was later forced to deny participation in these "experiments" where an entire village was taking part in drinking MMS once, after being diagnosed with malaria. Within 24 hours, malaria fever and the malaria parasites disappeared entirely, and it's this what has caused the improvement of health for thousands of Africans, since the time Jim Humble has spent time in Africa (the 70's) and in the year 2012, when this treatment in an Ugandese village was filmed. (presented on the page in the link above as "leaked".

Another example of serious attacks to debunk MMS is here: (there are more, with attempts to poison assistants of Jim Humble, within the Genesis2Church community)
MMS on Trial : Grand Jury to Determine the Fate of Daniel Smith - Jim Humble | MMS | Master Mineral Solution | Miracle Mineral Solution | JIMHUMBLE.CO
So far my defence of Jim Humble's lifework 

And now, turning practical, finally... ahem, the (German) descriptions on my 2 bottles are: CLO2 Natriumchlorit 25% and CLO2 Zitronensaure Losung 50%
These are the bottles I ordered at Vitalundfitmit100 (Vital and fit at the age of 100). It's officially sold as waterpurifier, which is a rule forced upon this company,
which is part of the suppression attempt by Big Pharma. I guess you're aware of the numerous shouts, online and offline, that Chlorine Dioxide is bleach water.

Am I right, that apart from using a pinch of baking soda, or pure apple juice, I can dilute the activated drops of MMS so that the taste is diluted too? Is there no limit to the amount? Since I'm not a person swallowing large amounts of drinking water, I think I'll use baking soda and try this out soon. I prefer a simple method, without too much pomp and circumstance. I do know that any juice containing Vit. C isn't used to make the remedy. I guess, although one bottle reads "Zitronensaure losung" that this is lemon juice that has lost the vit. C due to heating it up for over 76 degrees Celsius?

Well, I've got to spend some time studying, learning about the use of MMS protocols. The last part in your post about the methodology you use, is hard to follow, due to my lack of knowledge about what the difference is between a single activation and a double or triple activation. Plus the acronyms you use in it, abstract terms. But that's because it'll take time to make myself familiar with what these acronyms stand for. Thank you for your assistance, and your suggestion about water purification, I think that's about the use of common sense, isn't it?

Thank you for the link to Scotmas, for further investigation. It's not that I've got a swimming pool at home (I wish I had one) but it's for water purification when I'm hiking in the wilderness, in a remote area. In general, it's useful to know how to make water in nature drinkable, just in case it's needed.

 
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