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Hi CLO2

"8.0mg X 37.5% activation = 3.0mg of CLO2 - The other 62.5% of the CLO2 is lost in the process of making the CDS."

An update on the conversion efficiency when making CDS. The method Andreas Kalcker showed in his recent video, which I developed, (2 infusions and a total activation time of about 24 hours) has an efficiency of 45%.

In recent tests I am consistently seeing 50% and higher. One test resulted in 84% conversion efficiency and activation was completed in 3 hours. Still testing...

 
Using equal amounts of NaClO₂ and HCl of these concentrations is not the most efficient way of making CDS. Just by doubling the amount of acid, you can use twice the amount of water for a similar (actually slightly greater) concentration!
 
My testing of resultant CDS (using reagent test strips) shows very good conformity to the expected concentrations from the CDS wizard . Simplicity of recipe is good but because people can only obtain certain concentrations of reagents, it is important to be able to adjust the recipes to what is available.

Sodium chlorite has a purity of 78%
How to calculate the amount of sodium chlorite to make 100ml of mms solution?

Hi Caneki

The standard 'technical grade' NaClO₂ powder is 80% NaClO₂ and 20% other chemicals, mainly NaCl.
Standard MMS is a 28% solution of NaClO₂ technical grade powder or flakes to produce 22.4% of NaClO₂.
A simple way of preparing this is to dissolve 280g of the powder in 720g (or ml) of water to produce 1kg of stock solution.
If your powder is slightly lower purity (78% rather than 80%), you can use slightly more powder and less water. 287g of powder and 713g of water will produce a similar final concentration of NaClO₂. Having said that, it is not worth getting too hung up about the exact measurements and percentages because all of these figures have an inaccuracy associated; your 78% purity is probably a guaranteed minimum and the actual content may well be closer to 80% anyway.

Stir the solution until the powder/flakes fully dissolve(s). 

Andy , when i looked at your spread sheet the naclo2 was measured in grams i am more familiar with measuring ml. Am i doing something wrong?

Thank you~!

Hi Davis
If the concentration of the stock is set at greater than 50%, the equations alter to calculate grammes rather than ml on the assumption that you are using undissolved powder rather than a solution. (The maximum concentration of NaClO₂ in water is dependent upon temperature of course but is around 28%.)

NB concentration is not the same as purity. The purity of the powder that is used to make the solution indicates how much of the target component there is as against other compounds that are byproducts or impurities—typically 80% for NaClO₂. The concentration of a liquid is how much of the target is in a given amount of the solution—typically up to 36% for these reagents.

When I looked at the CDS spreadsheet, I noticed a couple of blue warning triangles on cells A7 & B7. It seemed to be complaining about the NaClO₂ solution concentration and I reset that to 22,4% and it removed the warning triangles.

I also discovered a bug on the recipe checker, which I have now corrected. Thanks

Hi Devon

I'm a relative newbie but I'm a researcher and have quickly dug into the whole ClO₂ field, which seems to complement the functional medicine & naturopathic approaches very well.

Attached is a nice list of MMS acronyms. The term MMS itself stands (originally) for 'Miracle Mineral Supplement'. I gather (from a piece towards the end of one of the videos that I came across) that Jim Humble deliberately chose this somewhat off-putting name so that it would get quickly ridiculed and dismissed rather than deliberately attacked in a serious way. The 'supplement' was changed to 'solution' due to a challenge about the technical term 'supplement' and some people use a different value for the first 'M' to avoid being too wacky. I tend to use the proper chemical nomenclature of NaClO₂ when referring to the stock form and always used HCl to activate it although any acid can be used and some instructions identify citric acid as an activator. I prefer hydrochloric acid because it's present in the stomach, because the chemical reaction is more straightforward and because the co-products are simple and non-toxic.

I understand what you mean about the unpalatable nature of MMS1 (activated NaClO₂) and the standard answer is to dilute it further. The other route is to prepare a pure solution of the ClO₂ gas (CDS), which has a neutral pH and no residues and cross-products. This is my preferred method and has become our standard way of taking ClO₂. You need a little bit of kit to make it but it is not difficult and although it is not instantaneous, it can be produced within the day or overnight as we prefer to do.

The methodology that I use is that developed by CLO2 and demonstrated by Andreas Kalcker in this video  but I fully activate the NaClO₂ and only use a single activation. I react it at room temperature and in the morning put it in the fridge for an hour or so before opening it up to remove the shot glass of reacted chemicals and decanting the [CDS] solution into dark coloured glass bottles. This reduces the amount of ClO₂ gas that escapes because above about 10°C the ClO₂ gas comes out of solution more readily. I also tend to aim at 4000ppm rather than 3000ppm, which is classic CDS because this seems to be a good balance between being sufficiently concentrated that a single (350ml) amount lasts more than a week but not too concentrated that dosing requires anything other than a measuring spoon.

In terms of ClO₂ being used for water purification, you can do this on a small scale by activating a few drops of NaClO₂ with HCl and then adding it to a container of water. Industrially (in swimming pools and municipal water treatment works) they have automated equipment to dosed the solutions into the water. Scotmas is a world leading manufacturer of such technology and happens to have their main base close to where I live.

Hi Devon

Thanks for your detailed reply; I will probably split my answer across the various themes that you touch on.

Yes, there has, inevitably, been suppression and attack on MMS, especially as some of the more spectacular results have hit the social media channels (like the Uganda Red Cross malaria trial that you quote) and all along there has been flack from people trying to discredit the use of ClO₂ as a medical treatment. Have you found the associated testimonials site ? It has oodles of reports about a wide range of conditions.

Despite the various attacks over time, Jim's deflection tactic seems to have worked inasmuch as there are now thousands of folk around the world who are trained up in the use of ClO₂ in scores of countries and it is now impossible for this chemical to be entirely suppressed. I hope that you are right about there being an uprising in its use. Perhaps the pandemic has helped to accelerate this. It is now our main prophylaxis against SARS-CoV-2 (although we have a dozen other agents that we occasionally use and have 'on standby'). By deliberately veering to the 'wacky' fringes, MMS has been able to remain below the radar (by and large) for decades while folk have spread around the world training others how to use it.

It would be great to see more widespread use of this treatment for all sorts of diseases including degenerative conditions and diagnoses that are deemed 'incurable' by western medicine. I remember seeing some interesting reaction against the idea that ClO₂ can be used to " eliminate the symptoms called autism " with people basically claiming that it was removing their or their children's identity if they were to be healed of their autism. See also  www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/the-chlorine-dioxide-controversy/ .

Hi Devon

The MMS kit that you have uses citric acid and although I have not tried activating MMS with citric acid, I gather that it does taste bad at least with respect to using hydrochloric acid. Yes, you can dilute it as much as you like but as you say, there is a limit to how much water you want to drink so a good rule of thumb is to take it ac concentrated as you can cope with. Well done on picking up the importance of avoiding vitamin C (and other antioxidants) with the ClO₂ because they neutralise each other. You also want to avoid taking the ClO₂ with food and most drinks. I try to wait for about two hours after food and take it about half an hour before drinking tea or coffee.

You will find the CDS (chlorine dioxide solution) easier to drink than MMS1 (=activated sodium chlorite=NaClO₂+HCl). It does take a bit of work to make the CDS but once you have the bottle in your fridge it is just a matter of pouring a spoonful into a glass of water or bottle to sip over time. I'll make another reply that details the method that we have now settled on; I make it about once a week.