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4 Ways of Creating and Ingesting MMS/CLO2 in a Nutshell, ver. 2.0 (based on 20 drops per ml) 30 Aug 2020 06:46 #65737

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Hello everyone, this is my, "in a Nutshell", version 2 of a write-up I did a long time ago to help people understand the different oral ways we've developed for getting MMS/CLO2 into the body. I hope it helps.

First we must start off with a standardized drop measurement so we can compare apples to apples when looking at the following 4 ways of making and ingesting MMS/CLO2.

In the past Jim Humble used a dropper that produced 24 drops per ml, but then decided to start using the more standard drop size of 20 drops per ml. So now based upon that, we know that 1/20th of a ml (1 drop) of MMS (22.4% Sodium Chlorite) will have the potential to produce 8.0mg of CLO2 (Chlorine Dioxide).

Following are the different methods that have been developed and used to produce CLO2 from MMS for the purpose of ingestion.

To make the following methods easier to understand and compare, only 1 drop of MMS is discussed within each method. In practice however, normally more than 1 drop is used.


**Method #1 (And I've named it Protocol 1) - Stabilized Oxygen - Coolest on the throat but the most harsh on the stomach (This is basically what Jim Humble did in the beginning without realizing it, and it cured Malaria) - 1 drop of MMS NOT activated and added to 100ml of water:

When we combine 1 drop of MMS with 100ml of water, we will not have any activation externally and so we will get the following:

- 8.0mg X 0% activation = 0.00mg of CLO2

- Ideally 100% of the CLO2 would be generated when the MMS (22.4% sodium chlorite) comes in contact with the acid of our stomach and so inside the stomach, if we assumed no losses, we'd have 8.0mg of CLO2. However, full activation in the body like this is not attainable - see below.

(Scaled up from 1 drop/ml to 1 liter, we theoretically could have 8000mg or 8000 ppm but practically probably have more like 6000 to 7000mg (or 6000 to 7000 ppm) due to imperfect conversion and losses)

Method #1 also contains all the byproducts of the process of making the CLO2, some of which are also antibacterial and antiviral in nature, but not generally considered as powerful as CLO2.


**Method #2 - MMS1 - Only slightly warm on the throat, but somewhat harsh on the stomach for some. (Developed by Jim Humble and the way Jim uses MMS to make CLO2 in the body now) - 1 MMS drop activated for 30 seconds and then added to 120ml of water:

When we combine 1 drop of MMS with either 1 drop of 4% HCl or 1 drop of 50% citric acid for 30 seconds, we will have only partially activated it to about 10% of its maximum activation and so we will get approximately the following:

- 8.0mg X 10% activation = 0.80mg of CLO2

- Ideally the other 90% of the CLO2 would be generated when the remaining MMS (22.4% sodium chlorite) comes in contact with the acid in our stomach. So if we assumed no losses, we would again have 8.0mg of CLO2 in the stomach. However, full activation in the body like this is not attainable - see below.

(Scaled up from 1 drop/ml to 1 liter, we theoretically could have 8000mg or 8000 ppm but practically probably have more like 6000 to 7000mg (or 6000 to 7000 ppm) due to imperfect conversion and losses)

Method #2 also contains all the byproducts of the process of making the CLO2, some of which are also antibacterial and antiviral in nature, but not generally considered as powerful as CLO2.


**Method #3 - CDS - Hot on the throat but easiest on the stomach. (First developed by Andreas Kalcker and friends and then improved & simplified by Charlotte Lackney) - 1 MMS drop activated over a period of time which is allowed to absorb into distilled water inside a simple reaction chamber. When we combine 1 drop of MMS with an amount of acid inside a reaction chamber and allow the CLO2 gas coming from the drop to absorb into distilled water around the reaction container for a certain amount of time, we can capture a certain amount of the CLO2 in the distilled water and that amount is as follows:

- 8.0mg X 37.5% activation = 3.0mg of CLO2

- The other 62.5% of the CLO2 is lost in the process of making the CDS.

- If 1ml of this (which was made from 1 drop of MMS) were to be consumed, the person would receive 3.0mg in his stomach.

(Scaled up from 1 drop/ml to 1 liter, we would have 3000mg or 3000 ppm maximum)

Method #3 only contains CLO2 in distilled water. It does NOT contain any of the byproducts that the other processes mentioned here contain, some of which are also antibacterial and antiviral in nature, but not generally considered as powerful as CLO2.


**Method #4 - CDH4000 - Hottest on the throat but fairly easy on the stomach. (Developed by Scott McRae and Charlotte Lackney) - When we combine 1 drop of MMS with 1 drop of 4% HCl and 18 drops of water for 12 hours in a sealed glass bottle, all of the activating power of the 4% HCl will be used up in the process of activating just half, or 50% of the MMS, and so we will get the following:

- 8.0mg X 50% activation = 4.0mg of CLO2

- Ideally the other 50% of the CLO2 (or 4.0mg) would be generated when the remaining MMS (22.4% sodium chlorite) in the CDH4000 comes in contact with the acid in our stomach. So assuming no losses, we'd again have 8.0mg of CLO2 in the stomach. However full activation in the body like this is not attainable - see below.

(Scaled up from 1 drop/ml to 1 liter, we theoretically could have 8000mg or 8000 ppm but practically probably have more like 6000 to 7000mg (or 6000 to 7000 ppm) due to imperfect conversion and losses)

- Note that all the ingredients added together equals 20 drop or 1ml, and each ml therefore, contains 1 drop of MMS. CDH4000 also contains all the byproducts of the process of making it, some of which are also antibacterial and antiviral in nature, but not generally considered as powerful as CLO2.


Again, I hope this helps with everyone's understanding.

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Scott McRae

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- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

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- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops

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4 Ways of Creating and Ingesting MMS/CLO2 in a Nutshell, ver. 2.0 (based on 20 drops per ml) 30 Aug 2020 08:14 #65738

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Thanks Scott for that summary of making and ingesting CLO2 from sodium chlorite solutions (MMS).

"8.0mg X 37.5% activation = 3.0mg of CLO2 - The other 62.5% of the CLO2 is lost in the process of making the CDS."

An update on the conversion efficiency when making CDS. The method Andreas Kalcker showed in his recent video, which I developed, (2 infusions and a total activation time of about 24 hours) has an efficiency of 45%.

In recent tests I am consistently seeing 50% and higher. One test resulted in 84% conversion efficiency and activation was completed in 3 hours. Still testing...

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Yeah, you're welcome. I finally just finished the final edit after about 50 minor revisions so it may be slightly different now then what you saw before. The pdf also reflects the changes.

So if you're having a higher conversion, then you must be ending up with a ppm concentration that is above the standard 3000 ppm. If that's the case are you just adding some distilled water to it to bring it back down to 3000 ppm? Or is that what you'd recommend?
I'm Scott McRae, creator of "The Antidote" & CDH with CLO2's help (Charlotte Lackney)

- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

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- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops

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4 Ways of Creating and Ingesting MMS/CLO2 in a Nutshell, ver. 2.0 (based on 20 drops per ml) 30 Aug 2020 09:02 #65740

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I am getting about 500 to 1000 ppm at the moment. Trying for 3000 ppm because that seems to be the standard for CDS. Also quantities are small. The idea is to make enough CDS to last one day for one person. No fridge needed. Activation at room temp. This CDS could be made in hot climates and where there is no fridge.

The idea behind this new method came from a fellow in Brasil who had looked at my past work posted at MMSinfo.org and saw something I had missed! More details forthcoming when testing is done and a paper will be published jointly by me and Murilo.
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4 Ways of Creating and Ingesting MMS/CLO2 in a Nutshell, ver. 2.0 (based on 20 drops per ml) 19 Aug 2021 08:46 #70548

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Thanks Scott

A couple of questions arise:You repeatedly say:

full activation in the body like this is not attainable - see below.

But there is no further information below as to why the remaining ClO₂ is not activated by the HCl in the stomach; it would be interesting to understand why this might be.

Also, you note against most of the recipes:

… also contains all the byproducts of the process of making the CLO2, some of which are also antibacterial and antiviral in nature, but not generally considered as powerful as CLO2.

The byproducts of the reaction are H₂O (water) and NaCl (common table salt); the usual impurities in the NaClO₂ solution are NaCl and some minor components. It is true that salt can be used (at high concentrations) as a broad-spectrum biocide but in the concentrations involved it is disingenuous to suggest that there is any significant therapeutic effect from the presence of salt in the solution and the other contaminants may be even less welcome.

When producing CDS, I would argue that it is far better to fully activate the MMS, ie, use twice as much 4% HCl as 22.4% NaClO₂. There is no benefit in leaving some of the NaClO₂ unreacted in the reaction chamber.

The wizards and calculators that I have produced allow for full activation of the MMS when producing CDS and the recipe checker displays the [ultimate] activation percentage of the NaClO₂.

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Recipe for a single-day dose of CDS 19 Aug 2021 12:30 #70551

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Wow, thanks for creating this calculator Andy - this is fantastic! We've been waiting for someone like you to show up for a long time

Regarding your comments:
1. I kept on saying: "full activation in the body like this is not attainable - see below."

So you said: "But there is no further information below as to why the remaining ClO₂ is not activated by the HCl in the stomach; it would be interesting to understand why this might be." and the answer to that question is:

I don't know why this might be.

We used to have a chemist as a part of our little group and he seemed to really know what he was talking about and told us that it's not possible to obtain a 100% activation of all of the sodium chlorite into CLO2. It made sense to me though, because it's pretty difficult to get a 100% conversion of anything. Also, by the way, I just remembered that I was reading from a few manufacturers who sold systems that produced CLO2 from sodium chlorite, and I think the highest conversion rate I ever remember reading was that they could get 95% out. So since that time I've basically settled on the theory (my theory) that our stomach, if it had a normal amount of HCl, should be able to do a 90% conversion and so that's how I end up with my numbers.

Then you said this: "The byproducts of the reaction are H₂O (water) and NaCl (common table salt); the usual impurities in the NaClO₂ solution are NaCl and some minor components. It is true that salt can be used (at high concentrations) as a broad-spectrum biocide but in the concentrations involved it is disingenuous to suggest that there is any significant therapeutic effect from the presence of salt in the solution and the other contaminants may be even less welcome."

Here I'd have to say you're wrong because the byproducts are not just water and salt. There is left over unactivated sodium chlorite, chlorates and chlorites. There may also be some chlorous acid which is the precursor to chlorine dioxide. Chlorates are generally considered to be the least "welcome" of the byproducts, but there is at least one study and subsequent patent based on the study that shows these "less welcome" chlorates work great to get destroy bad bacteria in biofilm in the body.

I'll find the study and patent and attach them below.

Well I hope that helps you to understand what I had written about (to be honest it took a while for me to wrap my head around why I wrote some of the things I wrote - but I finally made sense of it to my self )

Again thanks for being here and providing your insights and analysis.

All the best,
Scott
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I'm Scott McRae, creator of "The Antidote" & CDH with CLO2's help (Charlotte Lackney)

- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

- Join our group on MiWi (was deleted off of Facebook): mewe.com/join/coronavirusebolasolutions
- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops

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Some how the subject of my original post was changed so this is just to correct that error.
I'm Scott McRae, creator of "The Antidote" & CDH with CLO2's help (Charlotte Lackney)

- I did a CDH injection / Chlorine Dioxide (CLO2) injection / IV push of 10ml of dilute 50ppm CDH / CLO2 into my blood 3 times in 11 hours & did before & after blood tests that showed that it did NO HARM to my blood, liver or kidneys. This suggests the possibility that CDH / CLO2 is a potential LIFESAVING MRSA cure, VRE cure, CRE cure, AMR cure, Ebola cure, HIV cure, Cancer cure, etc., since it appears to be safe intravenously at 50ppm.

- Join our group on MiWi (was deleted off of Facebook): mewe.com/join/coronavirusebolasolutions
- Every ml of CDH contains 1 drop of MMS, so 1 drop of MMS = 1ml of CDH
- MMS is 7 to 10% activated in 30 seconds while CDH made with 4% HCl is about 50% activated in the bottle. This is why CDH is far less nauseating than MMS drops

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Wizards, calculators and recipe checkers 22 Aug 2021 16:59 #70593

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Thanks Scott, I hope that these spreadsheets are useful to folk and hope that people will find and use them. Mixing MMS1, CDH and making CDS should not be arcane but I realise that the calculations are "mathematically simple but arithmetically complex" because they involve molecular masses, the chemical equation and quite a number of variables. The spreadsheets take account of all that and allow people to use whatever they can get their hands on to produce what they need in the quantities that make sense to them without having to worry about whether they have got their multiplication right.

There is a danger that people inadvertently mess up the equations by editing cells other than the highlighted cells because I haven't found a way of locking cells. I will keep an eye on the spreadsheets and correct them if they get messed up. I will also see if I can put in some sort of protection at least to alert people if something is awry.

You are right that no chemical reaction can fully complete in the presence of its products … but the difference is usually only a few percent. In the case of CDS, the main target product (ClO₂) liberates from the solution so that helps the reaction to complete more. I wonder whether the NaCl inhibits the reaction because it remains in solution? I have added the offset field to adjust for both this and the gas that escapes into the air above the solution. I am not convinced that the unreacted reagents, 'rogue' products and contaminants are sufficiently concentrated to confer a benefit that is worth highlighting.
When the reaction happens in the stomach, the ClO₂ will be being absorbed even while the reaction is going on, which will relieve the back-pressure of the products and allow a more complete reaction to happen. It won't be 100% but it won't be far off either and probably introduces less inaccuracy than the inaccuracies of the measurements of the reagents and their concentrations.

I'm probably more of a purist than a perfectionist, which may be why I prefer CDS over CDH & MMS1. It's the ClO₂ that I'm after, so why would I want to have salt and miscellaneous other chemicals included? I also like the fact that CDS is pH neutral … even if you get the proportions of chemicals wrong!

Out of interest, when I went to make my latest batch of CDS, I found that the shot glass had some crystals in the bottom of it. I had emptied out the reacted products after the last batch but hadn't bothered washing it because it's not used for anything else and there were probably a couple of drops left in there and the water evaporated. The crystals were certainly salty but there was also a very slight hint of something else. Unreacted NaClO₂, chlorates, chlorites, chlorous acid? I don't know but it's not really important for me because I only use the reacted components from the shot glass for cleaning purposes.

Let me know if it would be helpful to develop other wizards and calculators. Thanks for all that you contribute to this community; I see your entries often.
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