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CDS much less effective then activated MMS? 20 Dec 2019 20:00 #61945

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just a thought. Andreas Kalcker promotes CDS. I did read his entire book. Jim Humble promotes MMS, claims CDS not as good.
some people here use unactivated MMS.
I've tried CDS for my recent bronchitis, with what it seems no effect for couple days. Maybe I gave up too quick, but I am wondering if CDS just isn't active long enough in the body, where activated
MMS gives you a good balance of CD + sodium chlorite, where you stomach does the rest.
unactivated MMS definitely tastes the best, activated MMS the worst. CDS in the middle.
wondering of what your exp. is beating your typical cold/flu/cough.
I am trying to beat a bronchitis cough which lasts 3 months already and comes and goes but never fully leaves really.

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CDS much less effective then activated MMS? 21 Dec 2019 02:24 #61948

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Jim Humble promotes MMS1 because he discovered it.

Andreas Kalcker promotes CDS because he invented it. (well, not really because pure CLO2 gas in water is not that new)

Some people here use unactivated MMS because that was Jim's original 'discovery' in the form of stabilized oxygen which contains 3.5% NaCLO2.

Then we have CDH, and there is the Gefeu Solution (similar to CDH). I'll be writing about that in the future.

Some think these sodium chlorite solutions are so different from each other, when in fact, they are all the same thing! All of them are made from the same two ingredients; sodium chlorite solution and an activator. All of them produce chlorine dioxide (CLO2). So why do some say one is better than another?

Because of where the activation takes place. And for years, CDS and CDH have been underdosed because when CDS first came out, it was said that 1 ml of 3000 ppm CDS equalled a 3 drop MMS1 dose. Of course, that is wrong because 3 mg of CLO2 from CDS is not equal to 20.1 mg of CLO2 from MMS1. You would think that would be obvious, but apparently it wasn't. Today, you will find the statement that 1=3 on most websites which sell MMS products. I have tried to explain that that is wrong to some of them, but I am ignored.

CDS is 100% activated externally. CDH is 50% activated externally, and MMS1 is 10% activated externally.

Which one is best? The one that works the best for your particular ailment.

Would you use CDS for malaria when 100 mg of CLO2 is needed to kill the parasite? Of course not, because you can not put 100 mg of CLO2 in your mouth and swallow it without burning your mouth, throat, etc on its journey to your stomach. You use the one that is least activated, either MMS1 or MMS (undiluted NaCLO2) and rely on stomach acid to activate it. Some say stomach activation is a slow process, but when I observe MMS1 being added to stimulated stomach acid, I see an instantaneous change in color indicating that MMS is suddenly activated.

Anyway, CLO2 does not seem to work very well for many people for colds or flu. I have found for myself that 1 gram of liposomal vitamin-C twice a day, morning and evening, does work.
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CDS much less effective then activated MMS? 22 Dec 2019 03:53 #61953

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One reason why CDs may not work quick is calculation errors. Making it have exact 3000 ppm is not easy. One may be taking too little actual CLO2. My preparation of CDS is modest. I place just 30 to 60 drops of activated MMS at once in the shot cup and add about 500 ml of water around it. This method produces little quantity but minimizes the losses. Next day I open the closet, store it in refrigerator, and assume most of the CLO2 in the original drops will still be available when it's time to drink another dose.

An interesting fact about regular MMS1 is that after it 8-10 times per day you may end up inhaling a little but significant amount of CLO2 gas, which will go right-on-spot of lung problems.

Inhaling larger quantities of CLO2 would damaging, because (a) our lungs are too sensible and (b) the CLO2 gas form has a higher oxidation potential (1.5 V). Though there is a safer way, which is to place 3000 ppm CDS into a nebulizer to treat your lungs through "aerosolization". That adds some safety because most of CLO2 would be transported in liquid form, not in gas form. But I would be very careful with dosing and proper functioning of the nebulizer. Another advantage of that method is the quick absorption into blood stream, almost like an injection.

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CDS much less effective then activated MMS? 24 Dec 2019 06:30 #61987

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Infinitely Curious, using my testing data from here, your CDS recipe could produce 150 mg of CDS (300 ppm in 500 ml) when 2.5 ml (60 drops) of MMS are used, if you activate for 48 hours inside a fridge, single infusion method. This is based on my testing results which show about 38% CLO2 extraction efficiency from MMS.

Therefore, it is not that difficult to determine how much CLO2 your CDS will produce using any quantity of MMS. There is no need to use CLO2 test strips to measure CLO2 concentration (ppm).

Each ml of MMS will produce 60 mg CLO2 CDS if my method is used.

To calculate CDS concentration, divide the dose by the volume. In your case that would be:
150 mg divided by 0.5 liters equals 300 ppm CDS.
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CDS much less effective then activated MMS? 28 Dec 2019 04:10 #62015

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CLO2,

Thanks for your simple math.

"This is based on my testing results which show about 38% CLO2 extraction efficiency from MMS."

Have you ever tested with a smaller quantity of MMS per quantity of water? With that, less CLO2 will remain non-transfused, in the little MMS cup. That should increase extraction efficiency.

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After 24h:


And I leave transfusing in ambient temperature (inside the kitchen closet). Are you using a refrigerator for safety, to prevent the glass from breaking with too much pressure? I wonder if the low temperature isn't decreasing transfusion efficiency too.
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CDS much less effective then activated MMS? 28 Dec 2019 20:54 #62019

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You would think that activating in a cold fridge would slow down activation, and I am sure it does. Which is why a longer time is needed to release as much CLO2 from MMS as possible. BUT, CLO2 gas loves cold water! So, with the combination of cold water (below 50F/10C) and 48 hours time, most of the available CLO2 in NaCLO2 is extracted.

Testing showed that the surface area of the receiver container should not be more than 4 times that of the reactor container. And, a large amount of air space above the surface of the CDS is not critical; just wait 48 hours.

There is a small amount of CLO2 gas pressure inside the receiver container, but not much. However, leakage out of the container should not be allowed during activation as testing also showed.
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CDS much less effective then activated MMS? 02 Jan 2020 16:25 #62056

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I am wondering how much of 3000ppm CDS to use in a nebulizer. 100% solution?
I have been nebulizing coillodal silver, which sometimes is very effective, and appears to be safer then CDS.

also, how about to use 3000ppm CDS in 1liter water + 10-30drops sodium chlorite? that way you have the best of 2 worlds, a) deliver a burst of CDS + let your stomach activate sodium chlorite.
I might be trying this method.
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so here is your daily solution:
1 liter + 20-30ml 3000PPM CDS + 10 drops MMS1 mixed together to start with.

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"I am wondering how much of 3000ppm CDS to use in a nebulizer. 100% solution?
I have been nebulizing coillodal silver, which sometimes is very effective, and appears to be safer then CDS.

also, how about to use 3000ppm CDS in 1liter water + 10-30drops sodium chlorite? that way you have the best of 2 worlds, a) deliver a burst of CDS + let your stomach activate sodium chlorite.
I might be trying this method."


Be careful about getting too much CLO2 in your lungs from the nebulizer.

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