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Pacemaker and 84 year old male?. 02 Apr 2016 19:39 #51717

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Since we are having so much luck with our step daughter on MMS and her strange brain fog and infection, I was wondering if someone with a pacemaker would be safe enough on any sort of MMS dose? Even if it was super low?

The tap water at his house has so much Chlorine that I can't stand to drink it at all. I think the city has upped the dose in recent times. Maybey they are thinking that no one is paying attention, or maybey they are trying to be "safe" or maybey they are trying to kill us all off quicker. I don't know, but that stuff is awful.

The poor guy is loosing his memory and has a lot of pain and brain fog from all the meds that he is on. His wife of 50 years died of Altzheimers last year. I think the hair dye was a big factor for her. She would just wander off sometimes.

The big thing with him is that he is "Old school" as far as doctors go. Never would consider anything like MMS or even vitamins.

And I don't know how to change that attitude?

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Pacemaker and 84 year old male?. 02 Apr 2016 20:39 #51718

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Hello,

I know of three persons who took MMS with a pacemaker implanted (well, two pace and a defib), and to this day they had no adverse effects. But the convincing part is going to be tricky. I usually try my luck with a testimony related to the disease the patient suffers from, and sometimes I add the documentary about this experiment from the Red Cross. Then I try to close with "what do you have to lose by trying?"
But it doesn't work as often as I'd like. When you get such a wonderful tool as MMS, it's a bit like an STD, you're itching to share it with everyone ;) . But not everyone will listen, c'est la vie.
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Pacemaker and 84 year old male?. 03 Apr 2016 00:24 #51719

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Dear Hari,

You know what? I think there is enough Chlorine in that city water to show up on my test strips. You can smell it.
I don't think there is ANY safe amount of chlorine to be drinking because it accumulates in the body. That CAN'T be a good thing. If you or anyone knows what they publish as "safe" levels of chlorine, lead and whatever, I would like to hear about it or find a website that has to do with water quality.

And I think there is also the problem that if anyone is eating a "normal" polluted diet, they are not likely to notice the chlorine because of all the other crap they are eating.

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Pacemaker and 84 year old male?. 03 Apr 2016 07:29 #51724

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Dear Tillermann,

I agree with everything you wrote. In my opinion, there is now no "safe" level of chemicals, be it in water, food or air. The cocktail effect is never taken into account when writing norms, and as far as I know those norms are written by the corporations anyway.
As for the ramping up of the chlorine, it is a distressing trend across the States. After the Flint scandal, many cities started to fear for similar cases (and bad PR). So what did they do? They put more chemicals in the water as a way of saying "look how we tried" in case anything goes south.
When I was younger I used to play a role-playing game called Werewolf, where you used to battle agents of the Wyrm, a god-like entity bent on destroying the world by corrupting it. One of its main tools was a corporation called Pentex, which worked il so much domains: petroleum, pharmaceuticals, overfishing, videogames, anything that could destroy the environment and the human soul. They tainted their products in order to make them addictive and lower the suggestibility of people to the dark energies they sought to propagate. It was the 90s and I saw this concept as a way of giving an antagonist so over-the-top no one could feel guilty of dismembering it. But I start to wonder if someone saw that book and said: "hell yeah, we can do that!".
The fact is, the environment is so tainted that personal pollution is unavoidable and to be expected and acted upon, smelly water or not. MMS helps in that regard, as can various recipes destined to detox the body and boost the immune sytem.
And hope that the megacorporations will buckle before we do.
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Pacemaker and 84 year old male?. 03 Apr 2016 21:32 #51739

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Dear Hari,

Well I tried to look up how much chlorine they are using in our water. There is no way to find that information on the USGS website. Then I went to my state website. Pretty much the same obfuscation. No numbers to tell what's going on.
But I did find a list of the chemicals that they consider toxic. Guess what? Chlorine is NOT one of them!
So they could dump all the chlorine into the water they wanted and never see a "toxic" chemical present. Or the chloramination chemical. Chlorine and Chloramination are not considered toxic by them.

I think they just keep upping the chlorine or chloramination level until they kill off whatever pathogen or other chemical that they think is dangerous. So it all depends on how contaminated the original source water was to begin with!

Oh but wait! where's more!

There are about 10 chemicals that chlorine produces in the water that they do consider as toxic!

So how do they get rid of those? Change to Chloramination. Different chemical. Now it kills your water filters unless you have a special one that is designed for Chloramination.

The medical services that do kidney dialisys have to filter out the chloramination or it will clog their filters too.

I think it will also contaminate a fish tank filter or any granulated carbon filter in about 1/4 of the normal time, so what do you think it will do to human kidneys?

The water providers were supposed to send a water quality report and a warning that they were going to switch from chlorine to chloramination. I never got either one, but I will ask around.
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