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Sick Cats - lost one and another in trouble 13 Apr 2015 04:00 #49549

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I have used MMS with success on our cats before, but I have had 2 heart rending failures. One was a dog with distemper, and this last week a cat/kitten 18 months old. We gave her lots of drops and force fed her to no avail. She died after a week of this treatment. These are large maine coons so have given them about 1+ drops every couple of hours, with no progress.

Now a second cat is showing similar symptoms. Fever with congestion. It is as though the MMS has no effect. The 2nd cat is not vomiting yet and is still eating a bit, but I am wondering if there are any other ideas. We are giving activated drops. I know they are recommending plain drops for dogs, but dogs and cats are different. Any help?

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Sick Cats - lost one and another in trouble 13 Apr 2015 14:50 #49551

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Hello,
Sorry to hear that things are not going well. Here is a link to animal conditions. Perhaps there will be something there that will be of help to you.
g2cforum.org/index.php/list/animal-conditions-and-results

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Sick Cats - lost one and another in trouble 17 Apr 2015 13:45 #49574

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I am glad to report the 2nd cat is doing much better today and looks like he has turned the corner.

This is now the 3rd animal that had a very severe virus that I have tried to treat with MMS. Unfortunately I lost the 1st two in a sad way. The 1st was a puppy with distemper and the last 2 were cats. So here are my lessons learned for someone else out there.

1) Of course get on it fast! I find the vets are reluctant to give you the very bad news that you are probably dealing with a life threatening virus. So they try and go with other ideas and only after elimination of these other more benign problems will they say "well I guess this is X" or unknown X. Don't take a chance. Assume at the 1st sign you are dealing with something severe and start treating like it is an emergency. Because it is. You just may not be able to detect it yet. This was true in all cases. The 2 animals we lost we started treating too late.

2) MMS will only be help in 1st early phase, before it has buried itself deep in bone marrow etc. Once the animal is no longer eating, running high temps etc. The MMS is only miminally effective. I don't know why, but I suspect it has to do with the virus getting a foothold in nervous systems and bones where blood flow is less and the MMS just can hardly get to it. Meanwhile the virus in ramping its own population up in a big way, to overtake the animal. MMS with only water on an animal that has a compromised GI track seems to stress them out w/o the hoped for attack.

3) As soon as the animal stops eating/drinking go to subcu water. There are lots of videos on youtube on how to do it. Dehydration is your next number one problem. Its hard to force feed enough water down them, it is also once again stress full on them to get anything this way. The immune system needs lots of water. It helps keep fevers down and the body to have the best shot.

4) Next don't wait more than a day or so before giving them the calories they need. Small doses of kitten milk or the special high calorie recovery food from the vet will enable you to get enough calories down them easily to keep them going during this critical phase. One syringe 4 times a day of kitten milk is easier than the equivalent of normal food. As well as providing water.

5) I think antibiotics are helpful at this severe stage to help control 2ndary infections. Anything that can be done to reduce the load on the immune system is important. And although MMS would address this as well it is more stressful to deliver and harder on both you and the animal at this point.

6) The one thing we also did with this 3rd animal that did seem to help, is used a frequency generator, or rife machine. We purchased several DNA frequencies from this place.
www.dnafrequencies.com/store/
It is tedious to get signed up to be able to purchase them. So I would sign up in advance if you have animals and a way to use them. Or at the very least sign up as soon as you have an issue. It cost nothing to get set up and better to have this already done and in the ready if you need to get them.
I wish I could tell you which one helped, but I was desperate and blasted him with everything. I started with 5 min. 1st day and 10 the second. 10 seemed more effective, but they say don't start out too fast, just like MMS.
When he begin to get pneumonia I was really worried. He looked very bad, was running a supper high fever. We laid him on ice packs covered with a towel and then used Set #642
from the CAFL universal frequency set. This was truly amazing. It really made a difference on the pneumonia.
This is the killer problem with these severe viruses. They compromise the respiratory track so much, that it often kills the animal or makes it impossible for them to recover. If you don't have a generator, find someone that does. The rife machines penetrate the bones and other hard to get to locations.
This pneumonia frequency combined with the other purchased sets of frequencies and some antibiotics all made the difference. At the end of a day of all of these things we went from a cat slipping down into deep illness, to a cat in recovery. Although both cat's illness followed the same track. The treatment outlined above made the difference between the cat living and dying.

7) The one other treatment we did was use a soft laser to help them hold down water and food. Lasering 10 min before and 30 min after eating prevented them from throwing up. It is often extremely painful for them to throw up so it is critical to try and control it.

Hopefully this will be a help to the next person
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Sick Cats - lost one and another in trouble 17 Apr 2015 14:10 #49575

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Thank you very much for your in depth update! Much appreciated. Glad at least 1 survived! Any idea what kind of virus you were dealing with?

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Sick Cats - lost one and another in trouble 17 Apr 2015 18:10 #49580

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Most likely culprit is Feline panleukopenia virus. The symptoms tracked closely to the published discriptions. However we did also treat for these other virusus as well, Feline rhinotracheitis virus, Feline calicivirus, Chlamydophila felis, and Bordetella bronchiseptica. They tested negative for FIV and although we bought the FIP we did not use it, so those 2 were not candidates. Since the rife machine did seem to knock it out it, it seems likely it was one of those 5.
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Sick Cats - lost one and another in trouble 08 Apr 2016 16:48 #51828

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Just a quick thought,

You mentioned feeding them kitten milk. Would that stop or slow down the action of the MMS?

Milk is one of the things that stops MMS in humans. If you start to feel nausea you can take Vitamin C or milk and the MMS will stop working.

CDS will not work as well orally I would not think. There is a burning sensation when it is swallowed.

I have lost dogs to distemper and I know what a stressful situation it is for everyone involved. These dogs had never had a distemper shot before they became infected, so there was no protection from distemper to begin with.

I am thinking that a dog or cat G.I> track is fairly short, so any time they have diareah they are already in trouble.

You did not mention trying Acidophilus or Probiotics. I would think that would help keep their strength up as well.

I know that it helped me. I was on the P1000 + for 3 weeks and got really tired if I did not take probiotics at night.

Really everyone is living on the strength of the gut flora, so if those get wiped out, there is no energy left to fight off any sort of a disease and especially not a killer virus.

One last thing- Distemper is highly contagious to other dogs and cats. It spreads from the air in tiny water droplets with just a sneeze. If you can possibly keep them all separated as much as possible, and disinfect the area/cages/ bedding, water dishes etc. That would possibly prevent an epidcemic. I don't know if something like liposomal vitamin C would help? The C would be something for after hours of course, because it stops the MMS from working.

It couldn't hurt to have more than one weapon in your tool box.

Please keep us posted with your progress. We may all have sick pets at one time or another.

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