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Promoting a better image of the MMS organization 08 Dec 2014 15:19 #48380

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Dear Genesis: what follows is constructive criticism aimed at trying to bring more people, especially sceptics to the MMS method of immune system building.
I have only "discovered "MMS" in the last month, after a new acquaintance introduced me to the product for the use, firstly as a water purifier, and at that point I began to research it.
I am not a sceptic but I like to get as much information, presented as clearly as possible and understandable before I try anything that I have not tried before. I intend to use MMS for Arthritis.
I have found it difficult to see the organization as a credible one because of the way that it appears on the internet, the inconclusive testimonials many of which are not very convincing present on Youtube leave one confused, and mainly because the organization calls itself a church; at the beginning reading what I could find on MMS, it is what put me off of it the most. T he fact that they people who are in the organization use terms that the church uses, it makes it sound like an out and out fake.
There are too many "churches in existence which are sucking people in and have very little to offer apart from dogma or making money. Associating MMS with religion and calling the organization a church only makes it harder for people to look at it as a simple approach to healing. Shrouding MMS in a veil of mysticism and church jargon detracts terribly from its credibility.
The use of the world church to identify the organization behind MMS is misleading and off putting to the point that I will find it hard to convince my more sceptical friends to try and use MMS, because it just smacks of something fake. Because of this presentation, I hesitate to even approach friends, I cannot "explain" this presentation. I believe as well that the organization is coming under fire because it is calling itself a church; is this really necessary at this point? Is it used so that can be a non-profit?
The use of MMS has nothing to do with beliefs or religion and I feel that it has been a big mistake to go this direction; if you want MMS to look like snake oil, then associating it with an organization that calls itself a church is going to achieve just this. Drop this label, and more people will be drawn to trying MMS. It is already a bit hard to "believe" from the point of view of someone who is newly introduced to MMS because of calling it having been referred to as a Miracle, already one thinks, "here we go, another person peddling the cure-all that is just a fake". It is good that this has been dropped. There are too many shysters in the world and thinking people become very wary of anything that tries to say that a particular product does so much. All the negativity surrounding the founding of the first company and the continued focus on the attacks on "the church" detract from the image and make it look even less credible.
The focus on the difficult beginning, on the attacks, detracts from building a good vision of MMS , the organization needs to get on with promoting Chlorine dioxide gas without surrounding it with so much backlog of negativity. is it so important that the Red Cross is not accepting it? More than likely it cannot because it has some tie to FDA, and if I want to be negative, to funding by big pharmaceutical companies, so leave it alone, go in a direction that can be productive, Red Cross is too big to attack, once MMS has been around another 10 years official groups such as this, might come around, this is the way of the world.
Anything that is introduced in the world that has not been used before is always going to come under fire, much more so in the field of medicine. or healing I rarely even share my "stories" of success with alternative medicine with others because it does not pay to expose one's self to people who are just going to think that because you try something less proven, you are not a very solid person, and in my field, that is risky. People begin to doubt you in every way. I share with those that I think can have an open enough mind to look into what I am talking about, if not trying it as well. Use a less aggressive approach, the right people will find their way to MMS and diffuse it, gently.
Turn this campaign around, give it a different light - stop "preaching" and alluding to this as a form of religion or belief and put it out there for what it is. I have used acupuncture and homeopathy for 35 years; it was not that accepted 35 years ago where I live in Europe, now it is, it has taken time for people to see that it can and does work, but no one needed to call it or called it a Church. It has taken time, but homeopathy is now widely accepted in Europe in many countries and available in "normal" pharmacies.
I have read the "Sacraments" , but because I am highly suspicious of religion -the way that most religions manipulate their followers, I was put off from even reading the "sacraments", until I figured out what it really was. Why can't this just be called Instructions for proper use? Giving MMS this mystical aspect only detracts from its credibility.
Mr Humble, I am amazed at what you have done and you are a kind and giving person. But I must tell you that reading the book did not serve the purpose of bringing me closer to MMS. It was not until I reached the part which plainly explains MMS that I began to even see the purpose of the book. The negativity and difficulties behind your starting out are behind you, the story and the path of MMS needs to move on unhindered by this baggage. The negativity and rancor concerning the first years of the development of your company could be summed up in a page or two; thinking people realize that starting out with something like this is hard, you fell in with the wrong person, but there is so much focus on this that one asks what the book is really about: promoting MMS or is it a focus on the difficult beginnings and overcoming them? There are users and manipulative controlling people...everywhere. I know that it is sincere and that it was difficult, but the approach now takes the focus off of MMS and puts it on the inability of people to accept it, on it falling into the hands of the wrong promoter and your difficulty in escaping the association with "Arnold", the book would benefit from being completely updated with a focus on where you have been accepted rather than constantly pointing out where people were not accepting or fell short of the mark which you had hoped for. It is already a bit difficult to accept that someone who started out by being quiet eccentric and mining in the jungles, is now known for discovering this use of Chlorine Dioxide; I know that this is possible, but how many are going to look at this as something that convinces them that this is "real"? It makes for a very interesting story, but not one that convinces someone newly introduced to MMS.
Many who are using MMS probably have started companies and run companies and know from personal experience that the minute you start talking about the difficulties and the people that caused you grief, you lose your audience, you begin to lose credibility and people are just put off by the focus on "what did not work".. I would hope that at this stage, seeing where MMS has been a success, that you rewrite the book to focus on the positive progress and where these methods have been accepted to draw more people to it and help humanity, which is the primary focus of this organization.
Ireland is a highly religious country that puts a lot of constraints on its people,the church has a lot of power. You have offended the established religion and established church (along with devout followers more than likely) by calling yourself a church and calling the people in the organization by clerical names; it only stands to reason, that in a country like Ireland, you are going to come under attack. Hopefully you will find a way to be a non-profit organization without the need of calling it a CHURCH. Most people will not scratch the surface to read enough on the site to realize it is neither a church in the conventional sense of the word, nor a religion.
I am sincere in my criticisms; I would like to introduce more people to MMS and I hope that my criticism will be accepted in the right light, I believe that MMS has a place in helping humanity thus the best approach to reach the most people is needed.
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Promoting a better image of the MMS organization 11 Dec 2014 09:46 #48430

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Hi capitanissa:

Maybe a reading of these will answer some of your questions:

Timeline of FDA raids on raw milk farmers, dietary supplement
makers and natural medicine practitioners:
www.naturalnews.com/033280_FDA_raids_timeline.html

FDA RAIDS - From past issues of Life Extension Magazine:
www.myopia.org/fdaraids.htm

The Genesis II Church sells no product, and makes no claim to "cure" anything.
The recommended Sacramental Waters help the body to heal itself, we are all
learning, and are exercising our Constitutionally guaranteed (?) religious right to
free speech and to spread the word....
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Promoting a better image of the MMS organization 14 Dec 2014 10:40 #48457

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Exactly my thoughts. I actually found MMS years ago but looked away when seeing a church and 'miracle'. The one thing I like about this set up is the legal safety a church structure provides. Did you hear about the church in Ireland that had 800 dismembered babies found in a cistern on their grounds? Of course they are going to do an internal investigation. My point is the corruption of Churches and states. Visit www.itccs.org. The church structure is the best safeguard against such enemies.
On the flip side, this is a spiritual war so the church is fitting. the soul is more important than the body. One withers and the other lasts. Helping spiritual consciousness rise is the goal. MMS is a timely vehicle to help facilitate the shift through HOPE and less suffering. It will also be greatly appreciated after the 'shift'.
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