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Yorkie with Lymes/autoimmune disease 11 Jan 2014 15:23 #38564

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Hi, I just became a member of this site after spending countless hours trying to find a way to help my very sick 8 year old Yorkie. Was diagnosed with advanced Lymes with related autoimmune problems around Thanksgiving. Numerous symptoms some of which have subsided but only due to prednisone that he has been on since. He has basically lost interest in life-has trouble walking, swollen joints, cracked paw pads that are crusty and bleed, ears with some kind of crusty scabbed sores around perimeter that are actually eating away at his ears! Trouble swallowing?? He will only eat if I hand feed him pieces of grnd mt. Seems to be getting sicker daily! I won't go into all the details of Vets, Specialists etc and $ spent to help my little guy. I started him on every holistic remedy I can find to help strengthen his immune system, such as probiotics, a "greens powder" supplement with phytonutrients etc, Sovereign Silver, Zinc, digestive enzymes, raw meat diet. Bottom line is I DESPERATELY NEED HELP!
I purchased Sodium Chlorite Solution 28%, Citric Acid 50%, and DMSO. Just recd it yesterday. Problem is I have researched so much that my head is spinning, I am overwhelmed and not sure what I am doing! So far I mixed 1 drop of both, waited 3 min then added to about 4 oz of beef broth and fed him about 2 teaspoons in a syringe last night twice. Dumped remainder. This a.m. Mixed 2 drops each and did same. Repeated in 2 hours. I am not sure how long the mix is okay to use though? I put remainder this a.m in plastic bottle with lid. Can I use this for a couple more doses or do I have to make fresh each time?
I made the CDH recipe I found last night and have it still in closet for 12- 24 hrs as suggested, but the recipe called for 35% citric acid I have 50% so used a little less?
I made a spray bottle of 6 drops of activated and added some DMSO and sprayed on his lesions last night and this am. Not sure if this is safe to leave on skin or how long this mixture is good? I know this is long with a lot of questions, but u can tell I am frustrated and desperate with worry. Can anyone help me thru this? Any info would be greatly appreciated, but please give me good details on what to do since this is so new to me. I really hope I can help him :-(
Thanks, Bonnie

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Yorkie with Lymes/autoimmune disease 11 Jan 2014 17:00 #38571

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hi bonnie i am no expert on this and am new here myself i was very upset to read about your yorkie. have you read the pages on lymes. i have a cavvy and am treating him for ear infections which he gets a lot( i know its not as bad as your poor yorkie) but what i have done is activated one drop with distilled water and put in a glass bottle. on site it says about keeping an 8 hour supply in a bottle so that is 8 hourly doses.

it might be an idea to search lymes on the forum as im sure i remember seeing that pam has posted some solutions about this.

just click on search forum on the left and type lymes and you should find it

all the best

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Yorkie with Lymes/autoimmune disease 13 Jan 2014 01:38 #38632

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Thanks for the support Jeff, I really appreciate the concern. I have done as u suggest and read the posts about Lymes from other members. Unfortunately my little guy is much worse today. Not sure if it is due to mms or not. He can barely walk, legs are extremely swelled. Breathing very labored and heavy. I really think I am going to lose him! Not sure if I should discontinue or proceed with the MMS. His reaction to me when I approach him breaks my heart. He quivers and acts afraid of me due to all the things I am doing to try to help him ( stuffing pills down throat, eye droppers of awful tasting liquid, etc)! I have to make a decision this week about if I am being selfish and just trying to keep him going for me when his quality of life has so deteriorated :-( Good luck with your baby. Enjoy him and cherish him because things can change in a heartbeat like they did for me! BTW, I always had a lot of luck using Braggs unfiltered apple cider vinegar for ear infections. Thanks again for taking the time to reach out to me and Woofie...

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Yorkie with Lymes/autoimmune disease 13 Jan 2014 14:35 #38649

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so sorry for you and yorkie. t might be an idea to lower the dose. my cavvy ears got worse to start with so i lowered the dose what i mean is when i take my dose of 3 drops and citric i mix with water and then withdraw half a ml which i then add more distilled water to to make up ear drops. although i dont know what the ratio is it seems to be helping as he is no longer frantically shaking his head and there is no smell coming from his ears.

i realise my situation is vastly different to yours (iam having probs with my own dose which i will post about)

and as you say you have to weigh up what you think is right for your yorkie (i know how heart breaking that is) maybe try lowering the dose to quarter drop in distilled water or try cds. i have both and cds doesnt have hardly any taste.

good luck pam

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Yorkie with Lymes/autoimmune disease 13 Jan 2014 14:45 #38650

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Wow, your poor baby. When to let go of our cherished friends is a hard, hard decision.

If you decide to keep trying with him my guess would be to drop the DMSO and try the CDS or if you can the new CDH. The CDH you can give more frequent doses with less bad reaction. I probably would give his little body a break from all the MMS for a few hours as well.

All the best to you, I hope he comes around even at this late hour.
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Yorkie with Lymes/autoimmune disease 13 Jan 2014 19:13 #38674

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Bonnie - I also have a very sick little Scottish Terrier, 15 lbs. Much $ with vets - they couldn't say what was wrong with him. - so put him on MMS. In the beginning I had him on 1/2 drop did MMs only then 2nd day added dmso - by 4th day he was acting like he felt worse.

I was advised to drop his dosage and STOP the dmso and gave him a rest and not gave him anything. He was doing like yours, trying to get away from me. I have a animal syringe (13 ml = 1/2 drop mixture). Started giving him only 3 1/2 ml of MMS only, every hr. did for 5 hrs. He started reacting better - appetite better, etc. This morning he is much better, eating, etc. Someone had advised me that I might have been given him TOO much and it was too hard on his system. I believe that was good advice. Also they recommended that I be sure and do it hourly, if for 4 hours, or 8 or whatever, but be sure it was hourly. Praise God, it seems to be helping, he acts so much better today.

My heart aches for you - I know and feel your pain - will add your buddy to my prayers.
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Yorkie with Lymes/autoimmune disease 13 Jan 2014 20:36 #38678

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13 ml is only a half drop if you've got it diluted. Just to be sure. traditionally there are 20-24 drops to a ml - Gad to hear you're sweet baby is doing better, Blessed.
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Yorkie with Lymes/autoimmune disease 13 Jan 2014 20:42 #38680

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Bonnie,
I have used MMS a lot with my 4 legged family members. Especially when it looked very dire. None of them had Lyme disease but at the end I would do anything to try at least. Humble said it's never to late to start a person on MMS no matter how bad the situation looks like. I feel the same about my pets.

As Blessed1 said (so happy her little one is feeling better) continue with hourly doses of MMS just reduce the amount. Even if there is only the tiniest amount of MMS in a dose it must be administered hourly and best is for 8 hours straight (I have even done it 10-12 hours) yes, the little ones start to pull away when they sense you're coming with the MMS, but be strong and know its going to help.

Should you use the CDH you most certainly can use it more frequently than hourly. That is what I would do now that we know about CDH. It is so simple to make too.

Once you see improvement the dose can be increased but decrease again as soon as the condition worsens. But just keep giving some.

I even had to inject CDS to one my doggie and believe me she was not a happy camper when she saw me. But this was a year ago and she is as happy as can be, totally healthy.

Prayers out to you to find the strength to continue and for the little one to heal and get well soon.
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Yorkie with Lymes/autoimmune disease 13 Jan 2014 22:47 #38683

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Pam - the 13 ml is what I had been giving Scotty as 1/2 drop - (1 drop in 1 oz or 1/8 of a cup of water = 1.2 drop. So still using 1 drop in 1/8 c water, instead of 13ml (I did it as 12ml) divided by 4 = 3ml . I figured that would make it giving him 1/8 of a drop (or 3 ml).

Am I right?? Or do I need to use 8 oz of water and then just give him 3 ml??

I so want to be exact on all this. At least I'm not having to give him so much and he does seem to be improving.
I really appreciate all the help - maybe can help others too.
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