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Studies re chlorine dioxide 03 Mar 2013 11:51 #31260

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Has anyone seen this or answered it? Is it applicable to MMS? If not, why not?

Toth et al. (1990) examined the neurodevelopmental toxicity of chlorine dioxide in the postnatally exposed Long-Evans hooded rats. Groups of four male and four female pups per litter received daily gavage doses of 0 or 14 mg/kg chlorine dioxide on postnatal days 1–20. The chlorine dioxide pups weighed significantly less than controls at ages 11, 21, and 35 days. No significant alterations in cerebellum or olfactory bulb weights were observed on postnatal days 11, 21, or 35. Forebrain weights were significantly lower in the chlorine dioxide-exposed pups on postnatal days 21 and 35. This reduction in forebrain weight was accompanied by reductions in protein content on postnatal days 21 and 35 and reduced DNA content on postnatal day 35. The ratio of protein content to forebrain weight was decreased on postnatal days 11, 21, and 35; the protein content to cerebellum weight was increased on postnatal day 35.


2. U.S. Council of Environmental Quality
Cancer risk among people drinking chlorinated water is 93% higher than among those whose water does not contain chlorine.
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Studies re chlorine dioxide 03 Mar 2013 13:50 #31264

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The one thing I can tell you is that this study has very little meaning for us. Think about the difference in weight in us and in a baby rat. Now, realize that the comparable dose per weight would be a massive amount of chlorine dioxide.

Almost anything (even salt) in massive doses will kill you. The same thing in minor doses or micro doses can heal you. People die of overdoses of asprin.
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Studies re chlorine dioxide 03 Mar 2013 14:29 #31273

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14mg/kg would be equivalent to 980 mg/day in a 70 kilo human, or 49 mg/day in a 3.5 kilo baby, for 20 days (postnatal). How does that compare to the dosages recommended here?

2. The second one from the first post I probably know how you would answer. It's not chlorine that is available from MMS, therefore irrelevant.

These are not my questions. I just pick them up and if anything sounds not obviously biased or like a clear diatribe I put them here, either to be verified or refuted. There are a lot of people out there who have wrong info and rely on misinformation, even otherwise highly educated people. I would just like to be able to set all bad reports aside if they are not true.
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Studies re chlorine dioxide 03 Mar 2013 21:07 #31289

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Using Wikipedia as a reference for average body weights of Long-Evans rats and humans (world-wide average) the test dosage on the rats was about 29 times the basic daily CLO2 dose for humans on Protocol 101.

mmscds.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/cds_dosing.pdf
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Studies re chlorine dioxide 04 Mar 2013 01:25 #31293

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peri, you don't have to be so busy repeating all the disinfo agents -- Trust me.
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Studies re chlorine dioxide 04 Mar 2013 18:57 #31325

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I do not wish to repeat any disinfo agents. Segura clearly is one of those, and I ripped her for that.
However, this Toth et al report appears to deserve an answer.
In "The Master Mineral of the Third Millennium" page 36, it says:
A drop of MMS contains 6 mg of chlorine dioxide. Protocol 1000 is 3 drops an hour in half a glass of water.

1 drop = 6 mg
3 drops = 18 mg of CD an hour
10 hours, 3 drops = 180 mg of CD a day
That is some distance away from 980 mg, but not enough for comfort.

Protocols that call for a higher dosage than 3 drops will come much nearer to critical 980 mg in the Toth report. Therefore the validity and applicability of this report must be examined in more detail.

If Messrs. Humble and Kalcker go through the trouble of citing technical data to refute an obvious nuisance attacker like Segura, the ostensibly more weighty Toth report should deserve an equal if not better response.
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Studies re chlorine dioxide 04 Mar 2013 20:39 #31330

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I am looking at page 36 of Jim's 2011 ebook and I see nothing about 1 drop of MMS containing 6 mg of CLO2. Are you reading from the printed book?
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Studies re chlorine dioxide 05 Mar 2013 00:03 #31333

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It would be wisest to address these questions directly to Jim Humble rather than to the forum, if they concern you. He has done the fullest research on all this, whereas we have not. I'm sure he's aware of the studies you have mentioned.
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Studies re chlorine dioxide 06 Mar 2013 04:31 #31405

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Reply to Peri1224

I don't know what kind of a response Troth deserves, but let me say that 14 mg/kg equals 180 mg a day since the protocol calls for 3 drops an hour according to Peri1224. But therein lies the mistake. It is said in my book any number of times and in my writings that MMS (chlorine dioxide) only lasts 1 to 1.5 hours in the human body. Thus, although one might take 180 mg in a day's time, there is never more than 18 mg in the body when doing the protocol 1000. SO THE DISTANCE FROM THE 980 CRITICAL MILLIGRAMS MENTIONED IN THE TROTH REPORT IS QUITE COMFORTABLE AFTER ALL. The dose being taken is 49 times smaller than the critical 980 milligrams in the report.

Then, of course, the U.S. Council of Environmental Quality in the same report is not talking about chlorine dioxide, but rather chlorination which is totally different. Not the same thing at all. You are trying to evaluate apples against grapes and you can't.

The clinical trials of the world shows us that there can't be much of a problem with taking MMS as although more than 300 deaths last year were attributed to aspirin none were attributed to MMS. Although more than 10 million have used MMS. I assure you that the FDA and many other medical people and, of course the critics who know nothing, would be thrilled to find a single death caused by MMS. They could scream and point their finger and talk about charging the Genesis 2 church with the death. But, sorry, they can't find a single one.
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