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CDS as nasal spray 16 Jun 2022 00:37 #75825

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Could a person use distilled water and make saline solution out of it and mix with CDS to make a nasal spray like the product called snooty? 

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CDS as nasal spray 17 Jun 2022 14:30 #75839

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I use 5 ml of saline solution with 5 drops of 3000 ppm CDS in my nebulizer.
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CDS as inhalation: HClO electrolytically produced more tolerabel 800ppm 24 Jun 2022 06:59 #75935

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Hello!
I also tried to inhale ClO2, but I could only tolerste
it up to 5ppm. So you use 3ppm, same order of magnitude and surely some value differing from person to person.

As for prevention and trestment and especially valuable prevention against „opportunistic“ infections after some cough like CoV, inhalation of one inorganic antiseptics . 

I found inhalable, according to symptoms we inhaled 5-7x per day or “one intake” when strolling by. 

- NO available in every hospital (generators) but what I heard not used preventive for early intervention. 
Let us see if SaNOtize will be inhalable. 

- PVP-I 10% for mucosa, buffered to ca. pH 6.5, 0.5ml (ca. for 70kg adult) or diluted a bit, where you inhale longer till empty, so same applied dose.  
Here you can read up the detailed information on dosing scheme, and other valuable information (my opinion:) for other inhaling agents like below, and if some lung physician is helping through the medicine language …
osf.io/ns3yc/

best: most effective and tolerable:

- HClO Hypochlorite 800ppm 0.5-0.7ml
very pure electrolyitically produced, like Regen*’s Plasma Liqui* (“<800ppm”). 
(Insert o and d for the * :)
To measure it without proper testing stripes for disinfection water testing or a water lab: visit a pool owner, DPD1 does the trick in a cuvette or digital pool meter. 800ppm according to stoechiometry equals 320ppm free Cl, dilute by 1:100 for a (digital) ppm meter mostly giving 0.1-6ppm free Chlorine as a range of measurement, to ca. hit the middle of its range for reasonable (best) precision. 

You can let your lung fluid dilute the quite strong 800ppm, this is why a low volume 0.5-0.7 ml is given, probably as some estimated example for average adults 70kg, ask your lung doctor how much the lung SURFACE of a person wanting to inhale may differ from that average. Use publication given for PVP-I if you want to dive deeper. As a hint, we did not and just used it according to mindful observation of our feelings, and did let the children inhale according to their patience, which is lowest for the 10yr (he used perhaps 0.2-0.3 ml per session) and a bit more robust for the elder kids. For little ones we always did a “track and trace” to follow the nose, some TV time is helpful, so here you only have say 1/10 reaching the lungs so inhale a few minutes as patience holds. If sleeping at noon, you can make a fog pool with membrane or ultrasonic (fan enabled for ultrasonic type, won’t spit out any fog without) inhaler and build a “rim” for the fog by rolled cloth eg. and just inhale a round indirectly, we build a stand so the inhaler would not tip over  :)

For longer inhalation sessions like 5-10mins dilute at least to 200-100ppm. 
Since family members are impatient, we measured the weight of the battery driven membrane inhaler with a fine scale 1/100 g per digit before and while inhaling, to determine the intake per breath. For adults capable of long and deep inhaling, 1 breath intake is 0,08 ml to give an example, the kids tend to have much lower inhaling times, which is what counts. . 
To enhance efficacy, we try to inhale deeply and keep breath, switching the inhaler off, saving fluid and making it more reproducible and precise. 

see 2 papers
www.researchgate.net/publication/355618131_Inhalation_of_a_fog_of_hypochlorous_acid_HOCl_Biochemical_antimicrobial_and_pathological_assessment

and
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7837568/



- H2O2 but not the best for “the” CoV  flu. 

After 1/2 hr delay, we inhaled, on symptoms, organic antiviral  antiallergic healing agents:

- chromolynium or
- cpm
or 
 - azelastine each from nasal spray
- hyalurone and panthenole de-scarring and refunctionalizing Post-* but start early
- 10% xylitol (sterilized)
- 0.15% ilta-carrageenan (sterilized)
- in dead sea salt or stone salt water making sum of 0.4-0.9% salt content of the diy part of inhaling fluid. 
keep in fridge, heat up to boiling in microwave without any metal lids, screw on and mindfully stir and shake, let air out in between, a bit to heat up lid as well, back in fridge. 

Together with c19protocols your are in possession of strong weapons, estimate very high efficacy as all offer some different priciple of action. 

Andi. 

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CDS as spray with salt water: yes, works long, use non-corrosive sprays (pump spring). 24 Jun 2022 14:25 #75937

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Nasal spray:

yes, we do this for some
month now. 

Best „casing“ for ClO2 CDS ever!

The cool thing is, since you do not have open it to get out a small dose, no ClO2 evaporates with every unscrewing of a lid. 

So we observed that true ClO2 CDS is not diminishing in concentration even after some weeks of storage in trouser pockets very much. 

Open the spray after test carrying it around for 2 weeks and do the pool cuvette test with your reference solution you stored in fridge without opening. 
Will do some simple extinctiometer with 6-color leds and the spectrometric sensors  (link is only one example) now cheaply available soon. 

Dosing for nasal application:

Adjust ppm to your tolerability. 

As the spray gets diluted by nasal mucilage, I dose quite strong. 

I use 5-6ml 0,3% ClO2 CDS and fill up with dead sea salt water to 24ml

( I have a „supply“ glass in the fridge with 0,66% dead sea salt. You can use stone salt as well. According to „ A new natural defense against respiratory based pathogens“ you just have to add some 2-times charged metal ions‘ salts like CaCl2 to enhance surface tension physically, preventing infection and infectiousness by stopping aerosol exhalation for 6 hrs. )

The spray mechanism we use is produced by Pharma Aldenhoven bought from supermarket, 1€ cheapest price in Edek*, simple sea salt nasal spray, but obviously having a corrosion resistant pump mechanism, no grey ring visible around tip hole even after month, even for pure clo2 CDS 0.3% we carry around for tick and Blackfly bites/stings.
We want to include DMSO but fear it would solve eg plasticiser. So until I find someone doing a gas chromatography to compare if DMSO solces anything from the spray which would be brought under the skin I refrain from pre-mixing tick.. bite spray CDS + DMSO 70%. 
Search for some affordable dmso spray, should have chosen the right plastics in pump and seals. Should. Fill in pure DMSO and dilute with ClO2 - should try to do diffusion CDS production with DMSO 70% as target carrier, perhaps by the syringe method, seems suitable for smaller amounts.

In order not to spray 0,3% CDS in your nose, mark the tick-bite spray spray, we used permanent OHP marker and covered it with invisible tape AND cut in some marks at the spray lever ring from the outsides, you feel this in the dark.

Since DMSO brings ClO2 up to 2cm in tissue, and lyme is very „local on the spot“ in the first time after bite, one can post-exposure treat against Lyme prophylactically.
(What a clinical trial dismissed as non-useful with antibiotic gel: because antibiotics are big nolecules, the do not diffuse readily, and the used no DMSO. The also stated tick bites would not be recognised for many cases, but certainly bot for those suffering most from immune system excitstion by lyme/EBV/CoV. We detect them a few hours after they hit :)

Please suggest dosing.

We covered a PE fleece piece by plastisicer free oven bag foil patch and some wound tape. 

More easy is to dab a minute or two 4-10 times a day as you feel it does you some good, until symptoms of bite resolve.  

Pre-Treat with heat sting bite relief stick if you have one or use a metal prt like knife grip and hest it up in wster you can just barely tolerate. Do not burn yourself, the pathogens will survive more than your skin tolerates. It is just for de-naturalising the blood thinner most react to. So having less swelling etc. 

All the best!

Andi
 

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CDS as spray with salt water: Anti-Allergic as well :) 24 Jun 2022 15:20 #75939

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Forgot: PVP-I, ClO2, H2O2, NO, HClO are all anti-allergic as well, as you can read for HClO example in the ads of plasma liqui* in the link above (given for mouth rinse solution). 

I use ca 500ppm as well for eyes hay fever. For some months now. 

Feel it improves vision a bit, especially if I alternately use ClO2 and some anti-allergic, I use nasal spray being free of conservatives, for eyes as well as for nose, throat and inhalation in a Compressor based nebuliser. 

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