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making CDS - too much heat 20 Mar 2013 22:47 #31854

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I made 4 bottles of CDS a few days ago and they tested quite potent. However, when I put some in my coffee there was a distinct lemon taste to it. Now I put it in Sprite. Was my heat too high? At the end of the process I noticed that although the remaing baby bottle contects was nearly clear, there was less than the 60 ml of MMS I had put inot the bottles. So, some MMS must have leached it's way over via tube and mixed with the CDS. Will this limit the strenght of the bottles which I put in the freezer?

Also, I put my hand on the distilled water bottle to keep it from tipping over and now my thumb and a finger and a half is is colored.


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making CDS - too much heat 20 Mar 2013 22:55 #31856

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Sandy, coffee is an antioxidant, I would not use it with CDS (or MMS) -

I can't tell if your heat was too high. Your description is not clear to me as to what you were doing.

I'm assuming you made CDS. When you make a dose of it,you put it in Sprite, rather than in water. Is that right?

At the end of the process (the process of making the CDS or the process of making a dose with sprite) - Which baby bottle was clear, the small one (mixing bottle) or the large one (receiving bottle)?

At what point are you thinking some of the activated MMS made it's way over the tube and mixed with the CDS?

How hot did you have the heat in the pan that the mixing bottle was sitting in? Did you measure that?

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making CDS - too much heat 20 Mar 2013 23:06 #31858

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I was just testing it with coffee. It's not what I ususaly do.

The premie baby bottles had the MMS and the green of the MMS turned clear, but there was no longer 60 ml in the premie bottles

I use an induction cooktop outside and ususally set it at to temp but this time I forgot and set it as hot pot. This overides the temp and assumes you are boiling eggs. That's why I think it was the heat.


The Sprite was last - testing phase since the coffee didn't work

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making CDS - too much heat 21 Mar 2013 01:52 #31861

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The problem with too much heat is that you can get vapors from the citric acid pulled over into the CDS - this is not the end of the world - after all, I think most of us have done it at one time or another in the process of making it. It's one of the reasons I like the newer overnight processes that don't use heat - but I've used the heat process for some time.

I would think that as you created the CDS, there we be a lessening in the small mixing bottle - the gas does go over, after all. Just can't say how much less. Next time I do a heat batch, I'll watch and try to remember to post here.

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making CDS - too much heat 21 Mar 2013 11:56 #31866

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But can I make four bottles using the overnight method? I know about the shot glass method, is the overnight method similar? I found nothing about it online or in the forum search.

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making CDS - too much heat 21 Mar 2013 14:34 #31868

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You can make as much as you want. Charlotte has done a couple more updates, let me get the file for you - and for everyone else.

here's the general info page: www.mmsinfo.org/

The updated shotglass method is what you want www.mmsinfo.org/infosheets/cds_making_shot_glass_method.pdf - it was updated less than a week ago, so that you could make a quart/liter of 3000ppm at one time. Using multiples, you could make as much as you wanted to at one time.

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