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I am starting up and need some quick advice.... 02 Dec 2015 02:15 #50545

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:huh: I got the CDS bottle a few days ago, scavenged through the entire webpage and got a pretty much good idea of how to begin...
So this afternoon I intended to begin Day 1 of the STARTING PROCEDURE. ..But then I ended up reading Protocol 115 and understood that given I have CDS (instead of MMS) I'm gonna be better off with doing Day 1 in that fashion. - 1/2 cup of water with just 2 drops of CDS [as suggested when starting-up w/ CDS] every 15 minutes for 2 hours. Total of 8 cups in 2 hours span.

-- Question 1: Is it OK to integrate the 4 day STARTING PROCEDURE with Protocol 115..?
-- Question 2: Can I use the "1 liter water bottle w/ 8 doses" technique (that Arch. Mark Grenon explains in the Wiki-video), to carry with me the pre-diluted in water CDS doses according to Protocol 115 during the STARTING PROCEDURE..? ..And afterward, when I move up to the 1ML of CDS every 15 min. for 2 h., can I use the aforementioned "1 Lt. water bottle w/ 8 doses" technique..? ..Or that is possible only with the original MMS formulation..?
-- Question 3: What about meals...? ..How far away have the meals to be from the 1/2 cups of water with CDS..?
-- Question 4: Is it ok to have Vit C, E and any other Anti-Oxidants two hours before beginning the 2 hours cycle..?

Thanks a lot for your help, I really look forward to get better and leave a great video-testimonial..!!
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I am starting up and need some quick advice.... 02 Dec 2015 08:49 #50547

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Hello Guido and welcome to the G2C forum.

We need to know the CLO2 concentration of your CDS. All the protocols that use CDS are based on using 3000 ppm CDS and that has NO added sodium chlorite (MMS). If there is added MMS, you may get more CLO2 when that MMS is activated by stomach acid. That is assuming the added MMS is still in the modified CDS and there is some doubt that it is viable after a short time. No testing has been done that I know of to prove how long added MMS remains in CDS. Scott discovered that MMS in CDH made with 4% HCL was gone after 2 weeks.

For dosing with CDS using the Starting Procedure, check out this version of that protocol.

You could transition after the completion of the Starting Procedure to P115 instead of P1000 on day 5.

Yes, you can make up a daily bottle of CDS which should not degrade, except for some CLO2 gas escaping whenever the bottle is opened, especially if it is above 50 degrees F. Also, keep CDS out of sunlight, even diffused sunlight.

Always best to keep mealtimes away from CDS doses the best you can. When doing P115 I would refrain from eating until 30 minutes or longer after the last dose. And, best to start the protocol on an empty stomach.

I suggest to take coffee, vitamin-C, and antioxidants 1 hour after the last dose of the day.

Let us know how this works out for you!
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I am starting up and need some quick advice.... 06 Dec 2015 00:10 #50554

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Hey thank you so much,
given that I've already started up the Starting Procedure, let me ask a quick question...

I am understanding from the protocol you attached that for the CDS to be effective 2 ML of it must be compared to 1 drop of MMS. ...Now on the bottle I received it says 1 ML of CDS for 3 drops of MMS. ..The bottle does not specify the ppm.... But it's an original green bottle of yours which I received from Australia.
The same instructions are repeated on the attached instruction sheet I received. ..Do you want me to take a picture of both and send along..?

So, if I follow your doses, can I take, let's say in Day 2, 1 ML of CDS dilluted in water every 15 minutes for 8 times...? Or I must take 1 ML every hour for 8 times...?
What do you suggest?

Thanks a lot...!
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I am starting up and need some quick advice.... 06 Dec 2015 01:59 #50556

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Hello Guido.

For a long time, dosing for CDS was incorrect when ingested & compared to MMS1 dosing, and was recently (1 year ago) corrected. But many people don't seem to have received the message.

All the MMS sales websites I checked are still using the incorrect dosing of 1 ml of 3000 PPM CDS equals a 3 drop MMS1 dose. When CDS is used externally (not ingested) that dosing is correct. It seems folks forgot that MMS1 releases much more CLO2 in a normal stomach due to gastric acids. That, of course, does not happen when used externally. CDS does not increase or decrease in a stomach (due to acids). So, that is why CDS has been under-dosed by a factor of 6 for so long.

I suggest you begin with the Starting Procedure Protocol so you get used to ingesting CLO2. Then, you can either start P1000 and increase up to 6 ml per hour for 8 hours daily, or try the unofficial P115 at 1 ml every 15 minutes for 8 doses (a 2 hour period). If using P115, you can then increase the 15 minute dosing and/or continue for another 6 hours at the same dosing, but hourly.

If you notice any distress, reduce the dose and try again the next day. Slowly increase dosing as you can tolerate.

Let us know how this works for you.
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I am starting up and need some quick advice.... 21 Dec 2015 22:48 #50706

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Hello there, and thanks again for your great answers.

It turns out that with good probability and according to the rheumatologist I have Psoriatic Arthritis...
They don't know what is caused from. the only thing they know is that is part of the auto-immune diseases family.
I will open a new Blog for it so that whatever is shared there can be useful to others too.

Here I'd just like to complete by asking if you know of any Health Minister in Vancouver BC, Canada or neighbor regions that can quickly provide or send me few bottles of MMS, Citric Acid solution and maybe DMSO...

Your answer would be highly appreciated as I noticed that using the CDS I was already having some die-off symptoms. And that only by doing the starting Procedure with the dosage suggested by you lately..
Of course by increasing the amount the only one bottle I had of it finished pretty quickly..

I look forward to your kind suggestion on someone that can provide me with Solutions as I'd like to start again before Xmas. ..Otherwise I have to go buying the powders at local pharmacies and do the dilutions myself..
(Are there any videos or instructions that can guide me more clearly into doing the dilutions my self, if needed..?)

Merry Xmas my friend!
GF

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I am starting up and need some quick advice.... 22 Dec 2015 00:09 #50708

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Going to be tough finding NaCLO2 in Canada as its outlawed for your use.

GF, I do know someone in your general area and he should have what you need. He is a Health Minister. When I contact him I will send you a PM here in the forum.
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I am starting up and need some quick advice.... 22 Dec 2015 10:55 #50711

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Oh thanks, it would be great if you could put me in touch with this Health Minister in my neighbor..!
Look forward to your PM here!
Thanks again
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