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6 & 6 for a Cat Who Has Been Vomitting Last Two Days 16 Feb 2024 03:37 #81486

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My cat Trixie has been vomiting today and has been losing weight.  She is very thin and probably down to 4 lbs.  She was eating very well for a few weeks, but she has a swelling or growth on her neck.  It doesn’t hurt her when I touch it, but it is noticeable.  About the size of a 1” sphere.  

I’m thinking she needs the 6 & 6 protocol.  I was looking at the directions and it says 1 & 1 for her weight.  She’s about 4 lbs now.  Is this 1 mg the first hour and then 1 mg again the second hour?  Why does it show in mg, shouldn’t it be ml?  It’s liquid after all.  

My chiropractor is not available and I usually have him do a remote healing.   I don’t want to lose her, but I’m concerned that this vomiting was a little at last night’s meal and then again this morning after she ate.  We went outside and grounded for about 45 minutes today and she happily kneaded me as I lay on the ground.  I’ve also been under the weather with a deep productive cough.  

I just need some advice on what the 1 and 1 means for the 6 & 6 protocol.

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6 & 6 for a Cat Who Has Been Vomitting Last Two Days 16 Feb 2024 14:16 #81492

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Which book are you using, 2016 or 2019? 

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6 & 6 for a Cat Who Has Been Vomitting Last Two Days 16 Feb 2024 17:51 #81496

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6 & 6 for a Cat Who Has Been Vomitting Last Two Days 17 Feb 2024 13:28 #81511

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Info at the top of the dosing chart on page 302 says: 

"All measurements in Columns 5 and 6 are drops of MMS1." 

So, 1&1 must mean 1 drop of SCS and 1 drop of 4% HCL. In other words a 1 drop dose of MMS1 added to water, of course. 

I am verifying that I gave you the correct answer. If I am wrong, I will let you know. 
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6 & 6 for a Cat Who Has Been Vomitting Last Two Days 17 Feb 2024 20:03 #81516

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I’ve been sick and I misread the chart top instructions.  They do say drops.  And I would give 1/2 oz of water with this according to google results.  It just didn’t seem like that much drops.  1/2 oz is a hella lot of water.  It’s about 14 ml.  My notes for when I was giving her daily doses say she was choking on just 8ml.  I will have to go very slow.  She doesn’t like the smell, I think.  Plus sometimes I would go unconscious and gave her too much and she would vomit on the last dose of the day.  I had a lot on my mind with the dosing of the 5 kittens and another adult as well, at that time.

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6 & 6 for a Cat Who Has Been Vomitting Last Two Days 19 Feb 2024 09:51 #81538

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You only do the "6 & 6" ONCE, and then move on to the Starting Procedure and Protocol 1000.
(and then P1000+ with DMSO at some point)

This is what the 2019 charts say:

Weight — Starting Procedure — Protocol 1000
2 - 4 lbs — 1/16-1/16-1/8 — 1/4-1/4-1/2
4 - 6 lbs — 1/16-1/8-1/8 — 1/4-1/4-1/2


Since 4 pounds is on the border, you need to decide which line to use, the top or the bottom.
The top would be more conservative. But there is only one value difference, so it probably
doesn't matter.
(also, the chart in the book says "1/6" for the top line SP #2, which must be a typo --
I've already noticed quite a few typos in the book from what I've seen)

These are the amounts from the other chart:

Calculating Fractions of a Drop of MMS1
Fractions of a Drop — Liquid to Take From the 1 oz Glass
1/32nd of a drop — take out 1 ml
1/16th of a drop — take out 2 ml
1/8th of a drop — take out4 ml
1/4th of a drop — take out8 ml
1/2 of a drop — take out 15 ml
3/4th of a drop — take out 23 ml
The liquid that is removed from the 1 ounce (30 ml) glass is what you use for
the dose. It should be added to more water according to your animal's need.


And using the chart above:

In order to calculate a fraction of a drop you will need
the following: A milliliter syringe (a 10 ml syringe works
well), and a 1 ounce glass (a shot glass works well). If a
1 ounce shot glass is not available you can improvise.

In the clean dry glass activate 1 drop of MMS – count 30
seconds – add 1 ounce (30 ml) of water. To get various
fractions of a drop from this mixture, take out the
amounts of liquid from the 1 ounce (30 ml) solution of
MMS1 as shown on the chart below. (above) All calculations on this
chart are rounded off to the closest milliliter.

I haven't read or studied the new 2019 book yet.
Read this post-comment for more information:

mmsforum.io/goto/animal-conditions-and-results/39251-mms-dosage-for-cat-weighing-7lbs#81366
 
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You will find info there regarding Jim Humble's "MMS Health Recovery Guidebook".

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6 & 6 for a Cat Who Has Been Vomitting Last Two Days 24 Feb 2024 12:17 #81603

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So for my cat’s weight, it shows 1 drop of MMS for the 6 & 6 protocol.  She is not doing well tonight.  She didn’t eat.  She vomitted a few times over the last two days.  I gave her Carnivora which has curcumin in it. I thought she might not like the taste of the curcumin, but another cat ate it right up when I gave it to her.

She has been drinking a lot of water in the past two weeks.  I gave her subcutaneous fluids tonight for the first time and she actually drank even more water after getting 100 ml subcutaneously. Then she vomited brownish fluid with a blade of grass.  We’d gone outside to ground earlier, hence the grass.

She is very thin, but I still have hope for a miraculous recovery.

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6 & 6 for a Cat Who Has Been Vomitting Last Two Days 28 Feb 2024 20:59 #81658

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Make sure you read and understand the protocols and methodolgies,
which can be confusing.

Your "1 drop" doesn't sound correct, but you didn't give any information.
(1 drop of what? how much does your cat weigh? are you using the 2016 book or the 2019 book?
do you understand, as I mentioned above, that you ONLY do the 6 & 6 ONCE, and then move
on the the Starting Procedure and Protocol 1000?? -- and then P1000+)
 
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6 & 6 for a Cat Who Has Been Vomitting Last Two Days 01 Mar 2024 03:00 #81675

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I’m using the 2019 PDF as provided here on this forum.  It shows 1 drop of each Hydrofluoric Acid & Sodium Chlorite for a cat weighing about 4 lbs.  I thought the amount of water was 14 ml, but I see it’s 30 ml.  That’s 5 syringes full of 6ml of water.  I don’t think this is going to work.  She can barely take 8 ml without spitting it, choking and gagging or refusing it.  I can’t see trying to give her 5 syringes full of water with CD in it.  There was something else you said, BillPopMMS, about giving her even more water besides the dosage.  

I already give her syringes of food when she doesn’t eat on her own.  And she likes the food.  She doesn’t like having it in a syringe and I don’t blame her.  I’m willing to do it and my chiropractor muscle tested it as a go, so it seems like the right thing for her.  It might take about 10 minutes for her to take it in.  She will be stressing because she doesn’t like CD.  She’s had it before about 2 months ago when we did the Starting Procedure and kept going for about 6 days straight.  By the time we got to the last dose, she would hide her face and turn away.  Any ideas on how to make this more palatable?

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