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I would appreciate some clarification on the following questions as regards making CDS I would like to follow the approach that Andreas Kalcker uses in his video as I have the same equipment

The video indicates that the amount of water to be added is around 300 to 350 ml however there is a pdf file on mmsinfo.org that uses the same method and equipment that only uses 240 ml of water I would have thought that this would mean a difference in the concentration of the gas Is this correct and what is the correct amount of water to use

Another pdf suggests a that single infusion could achieve the same result as the above double infusion approach if left in a fridge for some time I would have thought the cold temperature would slow the infusion down Is this not correct and if I were to use the fridge with the above recipe how long to leave it (48 hours?)

Finally the gap between the top of the shot glass and the lid of the CDS container is somewhat less than 2 cm Is this an issue

Many thanks

Hi, Mikey99

I've been making CDS for over two years. Here is my process.

6 ml MMS added to shotglass
6 ml 50% citric acid added to shotglass (see note below)
stir shotglass mixture with glass stir stick
put shotglass in a jar with 8 oz. distilled water
seal jar and put in fridge for 48 hours

When the mixture in the shotglass is the same color as the distilled water, I remove the shotglass and save the CDS in another container and store it in the fridge. I then refill the glass jar with another 8 oz. of distilled water, and place the partially used shotglass into it. I put it back in the fridge for another day or two. Yes, the resulting CDS is much weaker, but I add 4 oz. of it to a quart of filtered water and drink it all day.

I've tested my initial batch with chlorine dioxide test strips and it usually comes out around 3000 ppm. I use 18 ml of it in a quart of filtered water and drink it all day. I usually go through two quarts per day.

From what I've read, with citric acid you don't need the double infusion method; one will do the trick. This is what I've noticed doing it the way I've described.

Note: I use citric acid because I have it on hand. I bought it before learning about using HCl. Since CDS doesn't have any MMS or activator in it, the citric acid doesn't get injested. I understand that you could also use Muriatic Acid as the activator to make CDS for the same reason.

Your gap between the shotglass and lid is fine.

Remember that the reason for making CDS in a fridge is because water colder than 50F (10C) will absorb the maximum amount of CLO2 gas possible. But, activation time will be longer, up to 48 hours.

At 48 hours, the color of CDS and the reactor solution (MMS+4% HCL) might be the same, indicating that no more CLO2 will outgas from the reactor solution into CDS. Is the CDS solution fully saturated with CLO2 gas?

At 48 hours, if the reactor solution color is darker than the CDS, then CDS may be fully saturated with CLO2 gas. I would say it would be better to add a little more reactor ingredients to be sure of reaching 3000 ppm CDS at 48 hours.

The reasons for the same reactor solution color as the CDS could be not enough ingredients, 'weak' ingredients, or just the exact amount needed to saturate the given amount of water to 3000 ppm. During recent testing, I discovered that both my MMS and 4% muriatic acid ingredients were too old and needed to be replaced with new solutions.

It is important to either measure CDS ppm, or be sure your reactor ingredients are of normal potency.

Mikey99 said:

I would appreciate some clarification on the following questions as regards making CDS I would like to follow the approach that Andreas Kalcker uses in his video as I have the same equipment. To make the record clear, the approach or method Andreas shows in his YT video was copied from my research (done in 2015 and posted on mmsinfo.org) without giving me credit for my work. In the comment section under his YT video, I thanked him for making a video of my method, but he deleted my comment. I wonder why he did that? What Andreas did is called plagiarism.

The video indicates that the amount of water to be added is around 300 to 350 ml however there is a pdf file on mmsinfo.org that uses the same method and equipment that only uses 240 ml of water I would have thought that this would mean a difference in the concentration of the gas Is this correct and what is the correct amount of water to use.The amount of water in the receiver container will make a difference in CDS ppm. Andreas used test strips to 'measure' CLO2 ppm, which only give a rough indication of ppm. I use a photometer which is very accurate and will read the actual amount of CLO2 concentration in the CDS water solution.

Another pdf suggests a that single infusion could achieve the same result as the above double infusion approach if left in a fridge for some time I would have thought the cold temperature would slow the infusion down Is this not correct and if I were to use the fridge with the above recipe how long to leave it (48 hours?) See my post above which explains why a single infusion using 4% HCL will work if activated longer. The recipe used during recent testing will work for single infusion in a fridge. You can scale the recipe up or down.

Finally the gap between the top of the shot glass and the lid of the CDS container is somewhat less than 2 cm Is this an issue.You could probably have less than a 2 cm gap between the bottom of the receiver lid and the top edge of the reactor.

To update forum post 63080:

The reasons for the same reactor solution color as the CDS color could be too much CDS water, not enough reactor ingredients, 'weak' reactor ingredients, or just the exact amount of reactor ingredients needed to saturate the given amount of CDS water to 3000 ppm.

Thanks for the detailed fresponse CL02 Just want to say though that its a bit concerning when the experts fall out with each other especially as this is a highly contraversial subject and trust in those who have studied this in depth is essential

This video shows 75ml MMS is required to make 1000ml 3000ppm CDS. I am checking with CLO2 whether the MMS is too much.

CLO2 .. i am so sad to hear that .. your CDS method was taking by Andreas kalcker and the CDS,CDH chart was taking from Jim's book !! This is not fair..
Your work need to be appreciated .
I will make you and Scott my first source when searching abd will only take info from your website ..

The work of CLO2 and Truthquester is GREATLY appreciated by me, and undoubtedly by most if not all of the members of this forum!