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started mms ,dmso protocol ,teeth hurt? 12 Aug 2019 06:47 #61083

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Hi Mart1n,
The purity of mine was 99% technical grade
Purity: complies to the purity requirements of E339 (food additive); N13-01
P2O5: 18.5-19.5 %
Na2O: 26.0-27.0 %
And Scott found it in amazon
P2O5: 43.1% which is 2,33 more potent

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started mms ,dmso protocol ,teeth hurt? 12 Aug 2019 07:18 #61085

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Martin said: "ClO2, if you got the time and interest for it, could you check the pH of a batch of reduced acidity (50%) CDH, and also a batch of plain MMS solution dissolved in water?"

Sure, I can do that. Probably in the next couple of days.

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started mms ,dmso protocol ,teeth hurt? 12 Aug 2019 08:51 #61087

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P2O5: 43.1% which is 2,33 more potent


Got it now. The anhydrous trisodium phosphate seems to have about double the amount of phosphate content compared to the dodecahydrate form.
So I'm going to adjust dosage according to that.
Thanks!

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started mms ,dmso protocol ,teeth hurt? 12 Aug 2019 08:59 #61088

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I believe when deciding to use MMS (general term for SCS) for a particular ailment, there is usually a best SCS (MMS1, CDS or CDH) for that ailment. In the case of teeth brushing, it is obvious that CDS (WITHOUT added MMS) would be the best SCS choice.


Agreed. And good to have pointed out what went wrong when establishing the teeth protocol.

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started mms ,dmso protocol ,teeth hurt? 12 Aug 2019 16:52 #61089

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Martin, I have ordered the one from Amazon with the higher content. What then should the recipe be? Thanks.

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started mms ,dmso protocol ,teeth hurt? 12 Aug 2019 20:28 #61091

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ClO2, if it's this anhydrous Na3PO4 form , then you can use the original recipe. 2 tea spoons of trisodium phosphate, 6 table spoons of sodium bicarbonate, dissolved in 1/2 to 3/4th liter of water (16 to 24 ounces), preferably distilled or RO.

The original amount of trisodium phosphate is based on it's ± 40% phosphate content.

For those unable to get a hold of anhydrous Na3PO4, the dodecahydrate form (Na3PO4.12H2O) can be used as well. Dodecahydrate has a lower phosphate content, ± 20%, or half the amount. I have dodecahydrate and currently use double the amount = 4 tea spoons in half a liter of water. I can't get all the sodium bicarbonate to dissolve in this half liter so I went from 6 to 4 table spoons of sodium bicarbonate.

Preparing: What I do is first water, then add trisodium phosphate, then sodium bicarbonate. Shake to help dissolve and it's ready for use. If not everything dissolves you can either add some more water or use some less sodium bicarbonate.

Use: I've done a mouthwash with this solution 3-5 times a day the past 3 days. Also brushed my teeth with it. Do not swallow.

Everyone is welcome to add more info or ask questions.
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started mms ,dmso protocol ,teeth hurt? 12 Aug 2019 21:36 #61092

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Thanks for that recipe info, Martin. I will try it when the TriSodium Phosphate (TSP) arrives from Amazon.

When the two ingredients are mixed onto the water, what size dosing from that solution do you suggest using? And, will the stock solution need to be diluted with additional water for use as a mouthwash / teeth brushing?

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started mms ,dmso protocol ,teeth hurt? 13 Aug 2019 05:27 #61094

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Scott, currently I am using 10 ml of the dilution and I was shaking the bottle when I was using 4 teaspoons of soda. You must mouthwash it 2-3 minutes or more if your teeth have enough damage. For me at the beginning took all the pain from my gum and as it bubble too much I had to spit it in less than a minute and to have second normal mouthwash for 2-3 minutes.
Now I need only one dose of mouthwash as it don’t bubble, and you don’t need to place more water. Now I am using less soda, so that not to shake the bottle every time I need to mouthwash and the ph of my now solution is 10 ph.
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started mms ,dmso protocol ,teeth hurt? 13 Aug 2019 09:40 #61096

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Thanks for all this information on how to use the trisodium phosphate and what is the correct dosing for different types...

Re using CDS for teeth;
I have found it to be good and have had no known problems since I have been using it in terms of affecting the teeth negatively in terms of acidity or similar.
It knocks back the one infection that i have that is quite active - the other infection I have is silent and I only knew about it through an xray, it is a milder infection.

I have noticed that different waters with the CDS seem to affect it -
I was using ordinary filtered water - (when not adding dmso) - and this was ok,
but I found by chance when i visited a friend for 5 days last week, and used her tank water (rain water), that the CDS actually seemed to work much better with this water
than my ordinary filtered water.
So then I tried using the CDS solely with the distillled water I buy - which has also gone through ozonation, and reverse osmosis -
and the CDS works a bit better with this than with ordinary filtered water,
but still not as well as with the rain/tank water.

The active infection I have is under a crown - however on reflection - I think this infection might be accessible through a gapping in the crown -
when I went to the dentist recently he said the crown wasnt right, there was almost a hole there where it met the teeth, and he thought that that might be why infection
got in this tooth in the first place;
so upon thinking about it, I think that infection inside that tooth might be more accessible than I thought because of that gapping/hole,
and also because by observation- if i dont brush clean and disinfect after eating food the infection seems to flare up quickly, which makes me think the tooth is open.

Anyway, the point is, this tooth is a very good barometer of what is happening - as it is responsive both negatively and positively to what is happening inside of my mouth.
It is a painless infection, but the gum line will swell and abcess if it flares up, and the tooth feel not quite solid underneath;
whereas when it is good the tooth feels solid and good, and the gum looks nearly normal.

I have found that adding DMSO to the CDS mix does not seem to be any more effective in my situation - in fact my sense of it is that it is less effective than CDS on its own, most of the time.

I have had no tooth sensitivity issues with the CDS , even when using it a lot - and it feels astringent in my mouth rather than acidic
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