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I have been reading through Kerri Rivera's "Healing the Symptoms Known as Autism," Second Edition. I have learned so very much from the experience. However, I had some lingering doubts. I tried to go to the recommended forum in order to get questions answered, cdautism.org / .com, however this just sent me to the Amazon page for the book. So despite hoping Kerri would be able to answer my questions, I have come here. The first question is that through out the book, I have heard her refer to DAN! as mega vitamin therapy. Now at first I had never heard of DAN! until I read Rivera's book, but looking it up it does appear to be a mega vitamin based protocol. However, what set alarm bells ringing for me was that throughout the book, when mentioning DAN! I did not see any reference to high dose Vitamin C. cases. Now, Vitamin C. is the bedrock of Orthomolecular / Mega vitamin based treatment. Literally if you are going to talk about Orthomolecular medicine, you have to talk about it. I heard about chelation, I heard about 37 - 70 different supplements some people were taking, but never much about high dose Vitamin C. therapy, either intravenously or orally. The other thing that set alarm bells ringing, was the way in which antioxydents in general were treated. Because if they are so damaging, as Andreas Kalcker and others seem to imply, then this creates quite a bit of dissonance for me, because of the evidence I have come across for them, for example, Dr. Frederick Klenner, who was a doctor in the 30's, 40's, and later, treated numerous cases of Polio with Vitamin C:

Massive ascorbate treatment cured every one of 60 polio cases Klenner saw. He published his report in Southern Medicine and Surgery in July of 1949. (7) All patients were well in three days. None had any paralysis.
“Since my last communication, I have seen four new cases of poliomyelitis. All of these have completely recovered. Three cases were seen in the acute febrile stage and in each instance, using 65 mg per kg body weight (by injection) every two (to) four hours, recovery was spontaneous in 48 hours.” (8)

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In 1951, “In an especially incredible case,” Levy says, “Klenner (9) described a five-year-old girl stricken with polio. This child had already been paralyzed in both her lower legs for over four days! The right leg was completely limp, and the left leg was determined to be 85% flaccid. Pain was noticed especially in the knee and lumbar areas. Four consulting physicians confirmed the diagnosis of polio. Other than massage, vitamin C was the only therapy initiated. After four days of vitamin C injections the child was again moving both legs, but with only very slow and deliberate movement. Klenner also noted that there was a “definite response” after only the first injection of vitamin C. The child was discharged from the hospital after four days, and 1,000 mg of oral vitamin C was continued every two hours with fruit juice for seven days. The child was walking about, although slowly, on the 11th day of treatment. By the 19th day of treatment there was a “complete return of sensory and motor function,” and no long-term impairment ever resulted. Vitamin C not only completely cured this case of polio, it completely reversed what would undoubtedly have been a devastating, crippling result for the remainder of this girl’s life.” (4) For such elegant results, in the days before widespread use of either antibiotics or vaccination, one may wonder why Klenner was not awarded the Nobel Prize for Medicine.

www.doctoryourself.com/klennerbio.html

Now you can't do to this what you did with the autism cases and say "Well, they, the vitamin Doctors, got some of them, but they couldn't get all of them," No. He got every one. Now this is important, because according to Dr. Kalcker, and Mrs. Rivera, this should not be possible. The toxins which caused Polio, such as Lead Arsenate and other pesticides, would have certainly been taken up by parasites and biofilm, and Nutrient therapy, such as vitamin C. should not only not have worked, it should have fed the biofilm and parasites, and made them stronger.

Evidence for connection between Polio, Cancer, Pesticides, and Vaccines:

Isn’t it appalling that the governments and the serum promoters see and know that vaccination causes paralysis yet they curtail it only during the months when polio is most prevalent. They still insist on having the revenue from the deadly practice the rest of the time regardless of the consequences. If they would care to observe the "polio season" they would see that it is only at the times when it is created by the doctors with their poisoned needles and the people with their excessive eating of sugar products and other devitalizing and semi-poisoned foods.

Dr. L. C. Appel writes: "The fact that vaccination is either the (a) adding of a disease to a body already weighted with disease, or else, (b) the giving of a disease to a perfectly healthy body, is the medical reason why some of us (medical doctors) oppose vaccination and urge its abolition. A perfectly healthy body is proof against natural disease; a diseased or unhealthy body is handicapped by being given another (inoculated) disease. A diseased or unhealthy body can never be rendered healthy by inoculation or vaccination."

Dr. Harry R. Baybee said:

"My honest opinion is that vaccination is the cause of more disease and suffering than anything I could name."

Dr. F. H. Haines voiced his views on vaccination as follows:

"It is impossible to say what remote after-effects may be caused by the introduction of alien substances into the blood stream. Many nervous and other disorders of unknown origin are too often met with. Products which alter metabolism, change the nature of fundamental secretions, cause profound change in the fluids of the body, allergy and anaphylaxis, are the negation of nature’s own methods, and must be viewed with grave misgivings and cautious suspicion." [(SOUND FAMILIAR? My note)] ("The Truth About Vaccination," by Lily Loat)

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The recent 1955 report of the American Cancer Society, stating that cancer strikes one out of every four persons in the United States, means that 25 per cent of the people are cancerous. Our present population is 160,000,000. Every fourth person, or 25 per cent of our population amounts to 6,400,000 people. Is this our present cancer rate, as compared to only 224,000 two years ago in 1953? If these figures are right then our cancer rate has increased from 128,000 in 1933 to 6,400,000 in 1955 which is an increase of 6,272,000 cases of cancer in the short span of 22 years. This staggering increase in a preventable disease is a grave reflection upon our present system of living with its popularized blood pollution practices by way of vaccination campaigns and mass poisoning as a result of government enforced spraying of fruits and vegetables with deadly lead arsenate and other poisons. The power politics of the drug and chemical companies have also influenced legislation to set aside vast sums of the taxpayer’s money with which to buy their poison chemicals, such as chlorine, fluorides, etc., for contaminating the public water supply and for enforcing tuberculin testing of cows. The people are told that these practices are beneficial but facts disclaim these statements.

the past instead of torturing animals and experimenting on and killing people in a effort to learn something that is already known?

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COMMON POISONS THAT CAUSE POLIO

In addition to the drastic vaccine poisons and the self generated poisons from wrong foods there are a number of other poisons that are being freely used that are known to cause polio.

INSECTICIDES such as lead arsenate, hydrocyanic gas and other cyanide compounds, DDT, parathion and other deadly poisons are a constant cause of death and disease. Dr. Abraham Gelperin, director of the Bureau of Communicable Diseases and assistant Clinical Professor or Public Health at Yale University, stated flatly that he believes many ills to be the result of these poison insecticides, and that large numbers of what are believed to be polio are in reality cases of poisoning, possibly caused by something like parathion.

whale.to/a/mcbean.html
whale.to/vaccines/polio.html
whale.to/vaccine/polio_ddt_h.html

Summary of evidence for a connection:

A clear, direct, one-to-one relationship between pesticides and polio over a period of 30 years, with pesticides preceding polio incidence in the context of the CNS-related physiology just described, leaves little room for complicated virus arguments, even as a cofactor, unless there exists a rigorous proof for virus causation. Polio shows no movement independent from pesticide movement, as one would expect if it were caused by a virus. Both the medical and popular imaginations are haunted by the image of a virus that invades (or infects) and begins replicating to the point of producing disease.

whale.to/vaccine/west5a.html

But it didn't. The only thing I can think of that could reconcile this is if the particular types of toxins in this case, lead arsenate, cyanide, and other pesticides, could not be compatable with the Biofilm or parasites, and this would explain their non - presence, IE the toxins killed them before Vitamin C. had a chance to strengthen them, but, even if we take that road, that still does not explain this case:

Three years later, I first saw niacin work on somebody else. He was a bona-fide, properly-diagnosed, utterly-incurable, State-hospitalized schizophrenic patient. I did not see niacin work in the hospital, of course; the only vitamins given there are what you can filter out of your “Jell-O” and your “Tang.” No, the patient was a fellow whose parents were desperate enough try anything, even nutrition. Perhaps this was because their son was so unmanageably violent that he was kicked out of the asylum and sent to live with them. On a good day, his Mom and Dad somehow got him to take 3,000 milligrams of niacin and 10,000 mg of vitamin C. Formally a hyperactive insomniac, he responded by sleeping for 18 hours the first night and becoming surprisingly normal within days. I’d seen him before, and I saw him after. I’d talked to his parents during the whole process. It was an astounding improvement.

www.doctoryourself.com/review_hoffer_B3.html

... Hoffer goes into more detail here:

I have thought about this for a long time and have within the past year become convinced that this vitamin is so versatile because it moderates or relieves the body of the pernicious effect of chronic stress. It therefore frees the body to carry on its routine function of repairing itself more efficiently. The current excitement in medicine is the recognition that hyperoxidation, the formation of free radicals, is one of the basic damaging processes in the body. These hyperexcited molecules destroy molecules and damage tissues at the cellular level and at the tissue level.

All living tissue which depends on oxygen for respiration has to protect itself against these free radicals. Plants use one type of antioxidants and animals use another type. Fortunately there is a wide overlap and the same antioxidants such as vitamin C are used by both plants and animals. There is growing recognition that the system adrenaline -> adrenochrome plays a major role in the reactions to stress. I have elaborated this in a further report for this journal. [4]

The catecholamines, of which adrenalin is the best known example, and the aminochromes, of which adrenochrome is the best known example, are intimately involved in stress reactions. Therefore to moderate the influence of stress or to negate it, one must use compounds which prevent these substances from damaging the body. Vitamin B-3 is a specific antidote to adrenalin, and the antioxidants such as vitamin C, Vitamin E, beta carotene, selenium and others protect the body against the effect of the free radicals by removing them more rapidly from the body. Any disease or condition which is stress related ought therefore to respond to the combined use of vitamin B-3 and these antioxidants provided they are all given in optimum doses, whether small or large as in orthomolecular therapy. I will therefore list briefly the many indications for the use of vitamin B-3.

For each condition I will describe one case to illustrate the therapeutic response. For each condition I can refer to hundreds and thousands of case histories and have already in the literature described many of them in detail. [5]

www.doctoryourself.com/hoffer_niacin.html

I read about another case on line and in Eva Edelmen's "Natural Healing for Schizophrenia, and other Mental Disorders,"

It was in Dr. Hoffer's early years. He and Osmond came across a schizophrenic, in hospital, who was catatonic. He was expected to die soon. They, over the course of the day, gave him 10 grams of Vitamin C, and 10 grams of Niacin, by feeding tube. The next day, he was sitting up and able to take the medicine on his own. Now according to Kalcker and Rivera, he should be dead. The massive amounts of antioxydents should have prevented the oxidive stress, which, according to Dr. Kalcker is so important to the health of a person, and indeed may have been this man's only hope for recovery. It should have feed the biofilms and parasites which were certainly consuming him. Presumably, these existed before the 1990's. Yet it didn't. He recovered.

Now I am informed by the orthomolecular perspective, and if I look at your successes from its standpoint, they are anomalies. But if I invert the paradigm, and choose the CD perspective as dominant, then the orthomolecular perspective and its successes, are anomalies. As someone who has though that perhaps one day he would like to heal people, either way I have evidence that needs to be reconciled. Most orthomolecular physicians are not familiar with CD (and Dr. Edelson was not when I talked with her by phone) but I find most CD practitioners ARE familiar with orthomolecular treatments, or a particular version of them. That is why I came here, so that you could answer these questions.

There is another story I would like to tell about anti-oxidants. It concerns the story of Beta Glucan. There was a fishery whose fisher were dying in multitudes. They were infected, supposedly, with bacteria and parasites. Highly powerful antibiotics, the m
ost effective available at the time, were used against the diseases, to no effect. A scientist, working with brewers yeast (which supposedly feeds parasites according to Dr. Kalcker and Rivera) found that an extract from the cell wall of the yeast, Beta-Glucan, was effective in strengthening the immune system of fish, so that they could fight off these parasites and invaders. Thankfully there was a local brewery which had the equipment for him to procure large quantities of brewers yeast, and extract the substance from it. He worked with that fishery, and it was saved. AND YET Rivera states in her book, that "anything that is nourishing to the human body, will be nourishing to the parasites. Never mind that later on one of the authors she sites specifically states that green juices are necessary for creating the alkaline environment which will prevent them. Oh well. I guess the bacteria and parasites were just so well fed they decided to move right out of the fishes body, and the biofilm of those schizophrenics and polio victims must have been so well fed by the Vitamin C. that it helped the victims make a full recovery. Please, Please do not misconstrue this. I am not making this challenge because I believe an answer is impossible, but rather, because I believe an answer is possible and I am coming to you for it, for such an answer.

There is another thing in the book that sets alarm bells ringing. That is the discussion of pathogens as being causative of disease in the body. There is a very important book that everyone here should consider reading, and it is known as "Bechamp or Pasteur." I am reading through the book myself. There is one more, "The Poisoned Needle," by Dr. Eleanor Mcbean, PhD. N.D.

From a post I made on disqus:

Elanor Mcbean, PhD. N.D. was a researcher on vaccines and vaccination. In chapter 10 of "The Poisoned Needle, she discusses Polio vaccines:

The word poliomyelitis was coined from the Greek words "polios" meaning gray, and "myelos" meaning marrow, plus "itis" meaning inflammation. Thus the word means inflammation of the gray matter of the spinal cord or brain or wherever gray matter is to be found. Every cell of the body contains a small amount of gray matter but it is more concentrated in the brain and spinal cord. Inflammation results from poisoning, irritation and obstructions that interfere with normal functioning. This damage, decay and disintegration of cell structure may terminate in paralysis or death without any invasion of viruses or germs. Isolated germs have never been known to attack and cause decay and disease of any part of the body. It is the corrosive poison products of decay that form the body of the vaccine that does the damage and causes the disease. Germs, bacteria and other such organisms are a part of decayed substance; they evolve from it and are necessary ingredients in the life process of eternal change and conversion from one form of life to a related one. Vaccine poisoning is just one of a number of causes of polio and other diseases. The section on OTHER CAUSES OF POLIO will deal with the other main causes. Our concern in this section is to show that viruses do not cause polio.

Since VIRUS has been medically designated as the "official" cause of polio we should first of all agree upon some stable definition of the term. Some dictionaries define virus as a poison. If this were the accepted definition it would be possible for us to see the connection between virus and polio. But the physicians and serum makers prefer to imagine a virus that can fly around in the air and attack people. Any other kind of a virus could not be made to frighten people into making large donations and in being vaccinated in the hope of protecting against it. Without an "air-borne" virus to play with, the whole vaccine racket would collapse. Therefore, the people are constantly reminded that polio is "catching" and they must have anti-polio "shots" that are intended to build up "anti-bodies" (which are also mythical suppositions). Although the promoters of the virus theory of polio insist that viruses are living organisms that fly around in the air and cause polio, this has never been proved. This unscientific, unsound, and undemonstrated virus theory of causation not only has no value, but it might safely be said that it has had the opposite effect. The rapid and ungoverned spread of polio is largely due to the misplaced confidence in the wrong belief. The popular practice of combating a false theory, not only leaves the disease unchecked but it directs the attention away from the real causes and discourages true investigation.

Although Ellanor Mcbean appears to have been wrong about the existence of anti-bodies, elswhere in the book she makes an important point:

Dr. Shelton writes: "The whole of the modern medical practice of vaccine, serum and antitoxin therapy is based upon the supposition that the body manufactures substances called anti-toxins, anti-bodies, antigens, etc., which are capable of meeting and destroying toxins that get into the body. The idea seems to be sound, although it is possible that the work of destroying such toxins is that of the detoxification carried on by the liver, and lymph glands, etc. Anti-toxins, antibodies, antigens, etc., have never been isolated. They have only been assumed, while the practice based upon their assumed existence has been both a failure and disaster. However, this may not be due to their non-existence. If they exist it is impossible to separate them from the proteins of the animal’s blood (in making vaccines) and these proteins when injected directly into the blood of another animal (or human being) are very poisonous. Besides this, there is no evidence that the anti-toxins of one species can be made use of by another species. Where vaccines are employed, it constitutes the introduction of actual disease matter into the blood. That is, the supposed causitive germs or some product of the disease is introduced into the body. The consequences are often terrible. Real benefits are never observed.

"If the hypothesis that the body manufactures anti-toxins, anti-bodies, etc., is correct it still remains to be proven that the body ever manufactures these greatly in excess of the need for them. It cannot be shown that ‘free’ anti-toxin, anti-bodies, etc., are suspended in the blood serum and can therefore be transferred to another animal in sufficient quantities to be of use to the receiving animal. In keeping with a general law of life, it is very probable that the body does manufacture an excess of anti-bodies, but it cannot be shown that it retains these after the need for them has ceased. On the contrary, in keeping with another general law of life, it is very probable that the body begins to get rid of them the very instant the need for them ceases. If they exist they are chemical substances produced to meet an emergency and will be cast out as soon as the emergency ceases to exist."

The renowned Dr. Antoine Bechamp, one of the world’s foremost scientists and bacteriologists, observed that the micro-organisms that are ordinarily called germs, evolve out of decaying cells they helped to build, and take part in the decomposing of the ever changing life substance and help to form it into material usable again by nature. Thus, when germs are found within a sick body it is not that they entered from outside and caused the disease. It is because they developed from the decaying cells within the body and have an important part to play in helping to handle the waste and destruction brought about by serums, drugs and other poisons forced upon the body from without. Perhaps our modern bacteriologists have seen this activity of the "microzymas" and jumped to the conclusion that they are anti-bodies fighting disease and that they (the doctors) must inject more of (corrected from oL) them into the body by way of vaccines. But anyone with common sense and reasoning can see that this would only interfere and disrupt the well organized efforts of nature. This is the reason why vaccination has taken such a heavy toll of lives and has produced such widespread disease.

Antibodies then, or microzymas, are only one part of the equation in health. The immune system also uses white blood cells and other defenses, and as Dr. Mcbean shows later in the book,

The orthodox and dominant school of healing—Medicine—-has taught us and deliberately popularized the false and absurd notion that Disease Is An Entity— something that invades the body from without; that there are microbes, germs, viruses, capable of causing (communicable) disease and that specific pathogenic bacteria produce specific disease by invading the animal tissues: that inoculation of pus and other pathogenic products into the organism produces resistance or immunity to infection by once being infected and that this immunity can be transferred to another. It is claimed in medical textbooks that the body produces specific protective substances called Antibodies, and that these must be obtained from another person or some animal which has produced them by having been infected by minute amounts of poisonous products from a specific disease.

We do not deny the existence of microbes but we do deny that there are any insidious, man-eating, death-dealing pathogenic bacteria capable of causing pathology. Natural Hygiene—a school of rational, wholesome and total living (which originated in the United States 125 years ago) declares that Toxemia is the universal basic cause of all pathology and so-called disease. Toxemia is the accumulation of body waste and is produced by anything and everything that enervates the body. Enervation is produced by anything that uses up excess energy, e.g. poisons, denatured foods, lack of sleep, rest, relaxation, fresh air and sunshine, overeating, sexual excesses, dissipations of all kinds, worry, fear, jealousy, mental self-abuse, unpleasant human and social relations, faulty economic conditions. This checks elimination and permits accumulation of body waste. Bacteria do not cause pathology but are rather the effects of disease. They are, we might say, Scavengers—a necessary by-product of diseased tissues of the impaired organism. It should be emphasized that only TRUE NATURAL IMMUNITY can be attained through a state of INTERNAL CLEANLINESS based on legitimate nutrition and hygienic living habits. Our orthodox medical practitioners all seek for a way to make UNCLEAN LIVING SAFE by creating a hypothetical ARTIFICIAL IMMUNITY through immunization and thus protect us from the natural consequences of our daily violations of the laws of life.

Numerous experiments with germs conducted in the past have conclusively proven that bacteria:

Numerous experiments with germs conducted in the past have conclusively proven that bacteria does not and cannot produce disease in a healthy organism. Years ago, Dr. Pettenkofer, professor at the University of Vienna, came to the conclusion that germs alone do not produce pathology and for years defended his position from the lecture platform and in his writings. On more than one occasion he and his assistants swallowed the contents of glasses containing millions of living cholera germs. Dr. Thomas Powell of California, who is believed to have taken more germs than any other man, challenged his medical colleagues to produce a single disease by germ inoculation. He was inoculated with cholera germs, bubonic plague germs and bacteria of every description and which was fed to him in every kind of food, yet nothing happened. Read U.S. Government Bulletin "Hygienic Laboratory—Bulletin No. 123, Feb. 1921", for further proof on contagious diseases.

Which disproves the statements made in "Healing the Symptoms Known as Autism," to the effect that it had been proved that germs cause peptic ulcers.

Germs do not cause disease, by themselves or in combination with viruses. It is only with the introduction of toxins and deficiency that these take on the appearance of being pathogenic. This may also be true of the worms which Kerri Rivera and so many others, keep finding in their childrens' and their own stools. The parasites might be an exception to this rule, but it is doubtful whether they could continue to cause trouble long in a perfectly health body, being cared for according to right principles of health.

We, I, do not believe in the germ theory of disease. Like Dr. Mcbean I view germs as the result and not the cause of ill health. I think if Kerri Rivera and Dr. Andreas Kalcker, and others, were to incorporate the views of Bechamp into their practice, they would be able to be much closer to fully healing the symptoms we know as autism.

There is another thing which makes alarm bells ring. As we mentioned there is a contradiction in the views expressed by Kerri and in the views of those promoting the parasite protocol, who regard green juices as essential.to creating the Alkaline environment which parasites cannot thrive in. This made me realize something in regard to antioxidants. Dr. Andreas kalcker also states to the effect, or quotes another doctor to the effect that "berries best be eaten because they are delicious, not because the reduce cancer. This made me think of a study I had found while researching fluoride. It was on the first page the first time I was there. I had to look for it this time, but I found it:


Protective effects of blackberry and quercetin on sodium fluoride-induced oxidative stress and histological changes in the hepatic, renal, testis and brain tissue of male rat



Author:
Hamza RZ, El-Shenawy NS, Ismail HA.

Journal Name:
Journal of Basic and Clinical Physiology and Pharmacology

Publish Date:
May 1, 2015

Volume/Page:
26(3):237-51.

Type:
Animal Study


Categories:
Brain, Brain Cellular/Tissue Effects, Kidney, Nephrotoxicity, Liver, Mechanisms of Cellular Toxicity, Oxidative Stress, Reproductive Toxicity, Testes, Anti-Oxidants, Nutritional Status




Abstract

BACKGROUND: Sodium fluoride (NaF) intoxication is associated with oxidative stress and altered antioxidant defense mechanism. The present study was carried out to evaluate the potential protective role of blackberry and quercetin (Q) against NaF-induced oxidative stress and histological changes in liver, kidney, testis and brain tissues of rats.

METHODS: The rats were allocated evenly to seven groups. The first group was maintained as the control, whereas groups 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 were administered blackberry juice (BBJ), Q, NaF, BBJ+NaF, Q+NaF and BBJ+Q+NaF, respectively, for a period of 30 days.

RESULTS AND CONCLUSIONS: NaF caused an elevation in lipid peroxidation level paralleled with significant decline in glutathione peroxidase, glutathione reductase, glutathione S-transferase, superoxide dismutase and catalase activities as well as the total antioxidant activity in liver, kidney, testes and brain. Some histopathological changes were detected in all tested tissues of the NaF treated group. Q and BBJ had successfully maintained normal histological architecture and mitigated the induction of oxidative stress caused by NaF. Q effectively reduced the elevation in thiobarbituric acid reactive substances level and restored the activities of antioxidant enzymes in liver, kidney, testis and brain. Less histopathological changes were observed in Q+NaF and BBJ+NaF treated groups. As a result, BBJ and Q significantly reduced NaF-induced oxidative and histological changes in rats. In the combination of BBJ and Q against NaF toxicity, the effects were more severe than from separate exposure, thus indicating that these flavonoids exhibited synergistic effects on all antioxidant and histological parameters

fluoridealert.org/studytracker/21822/

Now don't come at me with the weak response that everyone needs antioxidants and that we have to balance them out with oxidants. That is not the point here. Every antioxidant, which has the effect of neutralizing Chlorine Dioxide, also has the effect of reducing the toxic stress of, or of outright eliminating toxins. This can't just be a matter of antioxidants, for the Diet has vegetables, which are chock-a-block with them too and according to Kerri, they are allowed. DMSO is the most powerful antioxidant in existence(Archie H. Scott, The Doctor's DMSO Handbook), and yet it is taken directly with Chlorine Dioxide, and it takes an hour for DMSO to neutralize the compound, which is incidentally how long CD is active in the body. And yet Vitamin C. a much weaker antioxidant, cannot be taken directly with Chlorine Dioxide. Do you want to know what the difference is between Vitamin C. and DMSO? When Vitamin C comes into contact with a toxin, it instantly works to neutralize it. When DMSO comes into contact with a toxin, it CARRIES IT, while in some cases making it LESS TOXIC. Thus the hour needed to neutralize Chlorine Dioxide.

That statement, and the horror it engendered, led me to another realization about Chlorine Dioxide. And that is the aforementioned worms and the pictures of them I saw in Kerri's book. Now, I've seen worms. I have cats, and one day one just threw up right on my door step. In the yellow and grass, the main part of the throw up was a writing white worm. Two worms. Maybe three. Small, extremely slender and pale, they writhed with tips, at each end of them, which looked almost like the head of a pin, or a blunted needle, or like a picture of a finger on a computer, stretched out in word till the tip was almost a pinhead. They were clearly worms, they were unmistakably different from what I would have recognized as the intestines of the cat. They writhed for about half a minute and then slowed, never to move, as worms, again. That is when I realize that the worms Kerri was showing in the book did not look like this. They were not really worms in appearance, the looked more like the SLOUGHED OFF INSIDES OF INTESTINES. Of cource, she stated that there were pictures of worms writhing, but I did not find any in her book. THEY were all limp, the ones in the book.

I realize I have been combative, and sounded angry. That is because I want you to take these questions and concerns SERIOUSLY. I have tried to provide evidence for where I am coming from. As someone who has taken CD for over a week and as someone who might one day want to help people with the techniques found in this and other books, I need to have these concerns addressed and contradictions reconciled, so that I can have faith in this system that I am using, and continue to have faith in it so that I can continue to recommend it to others. I say this, keeping in mind the warning of "Parallax,"

Speculative men, by the force of genius may

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invent systems that will perhaps be greatly admired for a time; these, however, are phantoms which the force of truth will sooner or later dispel; and while we are pleased with the deceit, true philosophy with all the arts and improvements that depend upon it, suffers. The real state of things escapes our observation; or, if it presents itself to us, we are apt either to reject it wholly as fiction, or, by new efforts of a vain ingenuity to interweave it with our own conceits, and labour to make it tally with our favourite schemes. Thus, by blending together parts so ill-suited, the whole comes forth an absurd composition of truth and error. * * * These have not done near so much harm as that pride and ambition which has led philosophers to think it beneath them to offer anything less to the world than a complete and finished system of Nature; and, in order to obtain this at once, to take the liberty of inventing certain principles and hypotheses from which they pretend to explain all her mysteries."

"Theories are things of uncertain mode. They depend, in a great measure, upon the humour and caprice of an age, which is sometimes in love with one, and sometimes with another.

www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za04.html

Or as Muse sang:

"Hail the Preachers Fake and Proud, their doctrines will be cloud, then they'll dissipate like snow flakes in an ocean." Muse, Love is Forever

As Acharya S. said to Christian Apologists, "Prove me wrong, PLEASE!"





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Glad that your questions were answered, Heero_Yuy.

Would it be possible that you could post Kerri's replies to your questions here so we might learn more?

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I did not know if that would be appropriate. I don't want to play "gotcha," with her. She has been very helpful. I will ask her if I can.

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I WILL ANSWER ON YOUR EMAIL IN CAPS.
On Fri, 8/12/16, Paul Justice <truth_seek10@yahoo.com> wrote:

Subject: Help and Questions
To: "This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it."
Date: Friday, August 12, 2016, 6:00 PM


Dear Kerri Rivera,
I am reading your book, Healing the Symptoms Known
as Autism, Second Edition, and I had some lingering doubts
and concerns about it. Keep in mind I will be expressing
these doubts in the strongest terms possible, so they may be
insulting. I apologize. I need you to take these questions
and concerns seriously, and respond accordingly, with
maturity and depth. Thank you. I respect your work. Here is
the original post:
Dear all,





I
have been reading through Kerri Rivera's "Healing
the Symptoms Known as Autism," Second Edition. I have
learned so very much from the experience. However, I had
some lingering doubts. I tried to go to the recommended
forum in order to get questions answered, cdautism.org /
.com, however this just sent me to the Amazon page for the
book. So despite hoping Kerri would be able to answer my
questions, I have come here. The first question is that
through out the book, I have heard her refer to DAN! as mega
vitamin therapy. Now at first I had never heard of DAN!
until I read Rivera's book, but looking it up it does
appear to be a mega vitamin based protocol. However, what
set alarm bells ringing for me was that throughout the book,
when mentioning DAN! I did not see any reference to high
dose Vitamin C. cases. Now, Vitamin C.
I AM NOT SUPPORTING ANY OTHER PROTOCOLS.HOWEVER, I DID HIGH DOSE IV C IN MY CLINIC IN YEARS PART. NOTHING INTERESTING NOR EARTH SHATTERING THERE. is the bedrock of
Orthomolecular / Mega vitamin based treatment. Literally if
you are going to talk about Orthomolecular medicine, you
have to talk about it. I heard about chelation, I heard
about 37 - 70 different supplements some people were taking,
but never much about high dose Vitamin C. therapy, either
intravenously or orally. The other thing that set alarm
bells ringing, was the way in which antioxydents in general
were treated. Because if they are so damaging, as Andreas
Kalcker and others seem to imply, then this creates quite a
bit of dissonance for me, because of the evidence I have
come across for them, for example, Dr. Frederick Klenner,
who was a doctor in the 30's, 40's, and later,
treated numerous cases of Polio with Vitamin C:
NOT EVERYTHING IS FOR EVERYONE. I AM SHARING MY EXPERIENCE OF SOMETHING THAT HAS WORK FOR MOST TO DIFFERENT LEVELS.


Massive ascorbate treatment cured every one of 60 polio
cases Klenner saw. He published his report in Southern
Medicine and Surgery in July of 1949. (7) All patients were
well in three days. None had any paralysis.
WELL, THIS IS AUTISM AND NOTHING HAS SEEMED TO MAKE MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE BESIDES DIET AND CD. THE PP IS NOT A SLAM DUNK...CD IS.

“Since my last communication, I have seen four new cases
of poliomyelitis. All of these have completely recovered.
Three cases were seen in the acute febrile stage and in each
instance, using 65 mg per kg body weight (by injection)
every two (to) four hours, recovery was spontaneous in 48
hours.” (
I DO NOT NOR HAVE I EVER CONSULTED ON POLIO.

...

In
1951, “In an especially incredible case,” Levy says,
“Klenner (9) described a five-year-old girl stricken with
polio. This child had already been paralyzed in both her
lower legs for over four days! The right leg was completely
limp, and the left leg was determined to be 85% flaccid.
Pain was noticed especially in the knee and lumbar areas.
Four consulting physicians confirmed the diagnosis of polio.
Other than massage, vitamin C was the only therapy
initiated. After four days of vitamin C injections the child
was again moving both legs, but with only very slow and
deliberate movement. Klenner also noted that there was a
“definite response” after only the first injection of
vitamin C. The child was discharged from the hospital after
four days, and 1,000 mg of oral vitamin C was continued
every two hours with fruit juice for seven days. The child
was walking about, although slowly, on the 11th day of
treatment. By the 19th day of treatment there was a
“complete return of sensory and motor function,” and no
long-term impairment ever resulted. Vitamin C not only
completely cured this case of polio, it completely reversed
what would undoubtedly have been a devastating, crippling
result for the remainder of this girl’s life.” (4) For
such elegant results, in the days before widespread use of
either antibiotics or vaccination, one may wonder why
Klenner was not awarded the Nobel Prize for Medicine.

www.doctoryourself.com/klennerbio.html
I ONLY STICK WITH WHAT I KNOW. AND I DO NOT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT POLIO. I AM GLAD THAT OTHER DOCTORS/PRACTITIONERS/HEALERS ARE HELPING TO HEAL PEOPLE WITH POLIO.

Now you can't do to this what you did with the autism
cases and say "Well, they, the vitamin Doctors, got
some of them, but they couldn't get all of them,"
No. He got every one. Now this is important, because
according to Dr. Kalcker, and Mrs. Rivera, this should not
be possible. The toxins which caused Polio, such as Lead
Arsenate and other pesticides, would have certainly been
taken up by parasites and biofilm, and Nutrient therapy,
such as vitamin C. should not only not have worked, it
should have fed the biofilm and parasites, and made them
stronger.

AGAIN, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT POLIO.
Evidence for connection between Polio, Cancer, Pesticides,
and Vaccines:


Isn’t it appalling that the governments and the serum
promoters see and know that vaccination causes paralysis yet
they curtail it only during the months when polio is most
prevalent. They still insist on having the revenue from the
deadly practice the rest of the time regardless of the
consequences. If they would care to observe the "polio
season" they would see that it is only at the times
when it is created by the doctors with their poisoned
needles and the people with their excessive eating of sugar
products and other devitalizing and semi-poisoned foods.

Dr.
L. C. Appel writes: "The fact that vaccination is
either the (a) adding of a disease to a body already
weighted with disease, or else, (b) the giving of a disease
to a perfectly healthy body, is the medical reason why some
of us (medical doctors) oppose vaccination and urge its
abolition. A perfectly healthy body is proof against natural
disease; a diseased or unhealthy body is handicapped by
being given another (inoculated) disease. A diseased or
unhealthy body can never be rendered healthy by inoculation
or vaccination."
WWW.VAXXEDTHEMOVIE.COM VAXXED DOCUMENTS THAT THE MMR CAUSES AUTISM. VACCINES ARE NO DOUBT A PROBLEM.

Dr.
Harry R. Baybee said:


"My honest opinion is that vaccination is the cause of
more disease and suffering than anything I could
name."

Dr.
F. H. Haines voiced his views on vaccination as follows:


"It is impossible to say what remote after-effects may
be caused by the introduction of alien substances into the
blood stream. Many nervous and other disorders of unknown
origin are too often met with. Products which alter
metabolism, change the nature of fundamental secretions,
cause profound change in the fluids of the body, allergy and
anaphylaxis, are the negation of nature’s own methods, and
must be viewed with grave misgivings and cautious
suspicion." [(SOUND FAMILIAR? My note)] ("The
Truth About Vaccination," by Lily Loat)


...

The
recent 1955 report of the American Cancer Society, stating
that cancer strikes one out of every four persons in the
United States, means that 25 per cent of the people are
cancerous. Our present population is 160,000,000. Every
fourth person, or 25 per cent of our population amounts to
6,400,000 people. Is this our present cancer rate, as
compared to only 224,000 two years ago in 1953? If these
figures are right then our cancer rate has increased from
128,000 in 1933 to 6,400,000 in 1955 which is an increase of
6,272,000 cases of cancer in the short span of 22 years.
This staggering increase in a preventable disease is a grave
reflection upon our present system of living with its
popularized blood pollution practices by way of vaccination
campaigns and mass poisoning as a result of government
enforced spraying of fruits and vegetables with deadly lead
arsenate and other poisons. The power politics of the drug
and chemical companies have also influenced legislation to
set aside vast sums of the taxpayer’s money with which to
buy their poison chemicals, such as chlorine, fluorides,
etc., for contaminating the public water supply and for
enforcing tuberculin testing of cows. The people are told
that these practices are beneficial but facts disclaim these
statements.

the
past instead of torturing animals and experimenting on and
killing people in a effort to learn something that is
already known?


...


COMMON POISONS THAT CAUSE POLIO

In
addition to the drastic vaccine poisons and the self
generated poisons from wrong foods there are a number of
other poisons that are being freely used that are known to
cause polio.


INSECTICIDES such as lead arsenate, hydrocyanic gas and
other cyanide compounds, DDT, parathion and other deadly
poisons are a constant cause of death and disease. Dr.
Abraham Gelperin, director of the Bureau of Communicable
Diseases and assistant Clinical Professor or Public Health
at Yale University, stated flatly that he believes many ills
to be the result of these poison insecticides, and that
large numbers of what are believed to be polio are in
reality cases of poisoning, possibly caused by something
like parathion.

whale.to/a/mcbean.html
whale.to/vaccines/polio.html
whale.to/vaccine/polio_ddt_h.html


Summary of evidence for a connection:

A
clear, direct, one-to-one relationship between pesticides
and polio over a period of 30 years, with pesticides
preceding polio incidence in the context of the CNS-related
physiology just described, leaves little room for
complicated virus arguments, even as a cofactor, unless
there exists a rigorous proof for virus causation. Polio
shows no movement independent from pesticide movement, as
one would expect if it were caused by a virus. Both the
medical and popular imaginations are haunted by the image of
a virus that invades (or infects) and begins replicating to
the point of producing disease.

whale.to/vaccine/west5a.html


But it didn't. The only thing I can think of that could
reconcile this is if the particular types of toxins in this
case, lead arsenate, cyanide, and other pesticides, could
not be compatable with the Biofilm or parasites, and this
would explain their non - presence, IE the toxins killed
them before Vitamin C. had a chance to strengthen them, but,
even if we take that road, that still does not explain this
case:


Three years later, I first saw niacin work on somebody else.
He was a bona-fide, properly-diagnosed, utterly-incurable,
State-hospitalized schizophrenic patient. I did not see
niacin work in the hospital, of course; the only vitamins
given there are what you can filter out of your “Jell-O”
and your “Tang.” No, the patient was a fellow whose
parents were desperate enough try anything, even nutrition.
Perhaps this was because their son was so unmanageably
violent that he was kicked out of the asylum and sent to
live with them. On a good day, his Mom and Dad somehow got
him to take 3,000 milligrams of niacin and 10,000 mg of
vitamin C. Formally a hyperactive insomniac, he responded by
sleeping for 18 hours the first night and becoming
surprisingly normal within days. I’d seen him before, and
I saw him after. I’d talked to his parents during the
whole process. It was an astounding improvement.

www.doctoryourself.com/review_hoffer_B3.html

I NEVER SAW ANYTHING FOR AUTISM WITH NIACIN NOR C. C IN HIGH DOSES HELPED WITH CONSTIPATION WHEN THERE WAS SOME. BUT NOW, CD TAKES CARE OF THE CONSTIPATION AS WELL AS THE REASON THEY HAVE IT.
... Hoffer goes into more detail here:

I
have thought about this for a long time and have within the
past year become convinced that this vitamin is so versatile
because it moderates or relieves the body of the pernicious
effect of chronic stress. It therefore frees the body to
carry on its routine function of repairing itself more
efficiently. The current excitement in medicine is the
recognition that hyperoxidation, the formation of free
radicals, is one of the basic damaging processes in the
body. These hyperexcited molecules destroy molecules and
damage tissues at the cellular level and at the tissue
level.

All
living tissue which depends on oxygen for respiration has to
protect itself against these free radicals. Plants use one
type of antioxidants and animals use another type.
Fortunately there is a wide overlap and the same
antioxidants such as vitamin C are used by both plants and
animals. There is growing recognition that the system
adrenaline -> adrenochrome plays a major role in the
reactions to stress. I have elaborated this in a further
report for this journal. [4]

The
catecholamines, of which adrenalin is the best known
example, and the aminochromes, of which adrenochrome is the
best known example, are intimately involved in stress
reactions. Therefore to moderate the influence of stress or
to negate it, one must use compounds which prevent these
substances from damaging the body. Vitamin B-3 is a specific
antidote to adrenalin, and the antioxidants such as vitamin
C, Vitamin E, beta carotene, selenium and others protect the
body against the effect of the free radicals by removing
them more rapidly from the body. Any disease or condition
which is stress related ought therefore to respond to the
combined use of vitamin B-3 and these antioxidants provided
they are all given in optimum doses, whether small or large
as in orthomolecular therapy. I will therefore list briefly
the many indications for the use of vitamin B-3.

For
each condition I will describe one case to illustrate the
therapeutic response. For each condition I can refer to
hundreds and thousands of case histories and have already in
the literature described many of them in detail. [5]

www.doctoryourself.com/hoffer_niacin.html


I read about another case on line and in Eva Edelmen's
"Natural Healing for Schizophrenia, and other Mental
Disorders,"

It
was in Dr. Hoffer's early years. He and Osmond came
across a schizophrenic, in hospital, who was catatonic. He
was expected to die soon. They, over the course of the day,
gave him 10 grams of Vitamin C, and 10 grams of Niacin, by
feeding tube. The next day, he was sitting up and able to
take the medicine on his own. Now according to Kalcker and
Rivera, he should be dead. The massive amounts of
antioxydents should have prevented the oxidive stress,
which, according to Dr. Kalcker is so important to the
health of a person, and indeed may have been this man's
only hope for recovery. It should have feed the biofilms and
parasites which were certainly consuming him. Presumably,
these existed before the 1990's. Yet it didn't. He
recovered.

Now
I am informed by the orthomolecular perspective, and if I
look at your successes from its standpoint, they are
anomalies. But if I invert the paradigm, and choose the CD
perspective as dominant, then the orthomolecular perspective
and its successes, are anomalies. As someone who has though
that perhaps one day he would like to heal people, either
way I have evidence that needs to be reconciled. Most
orthomolecular physicians are not familiar with CD (and Dr.
Edelson was not when I talked with her by phone) but I find
most CD practitioners ARE familiar with orthomolecular
treatments, or a particular version of them. That is why I
came here, so that you could answer these questions.


There is another story I would like to tell about
anti-oxidants. It concerns the story of Beta Glucan. There
was a fishery whose fisher were dying in multitudes. They
were infected, supposedly, with bacteria and parasites.
Highly powerful antibiotics, the m
ost
effective available at the time, were used against the
diseases, to no effect. A scientist, working with brewers
yeast (which supposedly feeds parasites according to Dr.
Kalcker and Rivera) found that an extract from the cell wall
of the yeast, Beta-Glucan, was effective in strengthening
the immune system of fish, so that they could fight off
these parasites and invaders. Thankfully there was a local
brewery which had the equipment for him to procure large
quantities of brewers yeast, and extract the substance from
it. He worked with that fishery, and it was saved. AND YET
Rivera states in her book, that "anything that is
nourishing to the human body, will be nourishing to the
parasites. Never mind that later on one of the authors she
sites specifically states that green juices are necessary
for creating the alkaline environment which will prevent
them. Oh well. I guess the bacteria and parasites were just
so well fed they decided to move right out of the fishes
body, and the biofilm of those schizophrenics and polio
victims must have been so well fed by the Vitamin C. that it
helped the victims make a full recovery. Please, Please do
not misconstrue this. I am not making this challenge because
I believe an answer is impossible, but rather, because I
believe an answer is possible and I am coming to you for it,
for such an answer.
GREEN JUICES ARE NOT A PROBLEM AS LONG AS NO FRUIT IS ADDED. IF A HALF OF A GREEN APPLE IS ADDED, THAT SEEMS TO BE FINE AS WELL. WE DO TRY TO USE A LOW CARB HIGH FAT DIET WHICH IS GOOD FOR OUR HEALING.

There is another thing in the book that sets alarm bells
ringing. That is the discussion of pathogens as being
causative of disease in the body. There is a very important
book that everyone here should consider reading, and it is
known as "Bechamp or Pasteur." I am reading
through the book myself. There is one more, "The
Poisoned Needle," by Dr. Eleanor Mcbean, PhD. N.D.

From
a post I made on disqus:
EVEN WHEN THEY DO ALKALINE DIETS FOR AUTISM, THE KIDS DO NOT RECOVER. SO...THERE ARFE THEORIES AND THERE IS WHAT WORKS. WE KEEP DOING WHAT IS WORKING AND HEALING PEOPLE WHO HAD AUTISM.

Elanor Mcbean, PhD. N.D. was a researcher on vaccines and
vaccination. In chapter 10 of "The Poisoned Needle, she
discusses Polio vaccines:

The
word poliomyelitis was coined from the Greek words
"polios" meaning gray, and "myelos"
meaning marrow, plus "itis" meaning inflammation.
Thus the word means inflammation of the gray matter of the
spinal cord or brain or wherever gray matter is to be found.
Every cell of the body contains a small amount of gray
matter but it is more concentrated in the brain and spinal
cord. Inflammation results from poisoning, irritation and
obstructions that interfere with normal functioning. This
damage, decay and disintegration of cell structure may
terminate in paralysis or death without any invasion of
viruses or germs. Isolated germs have never been known to
attack and cause decay and disease of any part of the body.
It is the corrosive poison products of decay that form the
body of the vaccine that does the damage and causes the
disease. Germs, bacteria and other such organisms are a part
of decayed substance; they evolve from it and are necessary
ingredients in the life process of eternal change and
conversion from one form of life to a related one. Vaccine
poisoning is just one of a number of causes of polio and
other diseases. The section on OTHER CAUSES OF POLIO will
deal with the other main causes. Our concern in this section
is to show that viruses do not cause polio.


Since VIRUS has been medically designated as the
"official" cause of polio we should first of all
agree upon some stable definition of the term. Some
dictionaries define virus as a poison. If this were the
accepted definition it would be possible for us to see the
connection between virus and polio. But the physicians and
serum makers prefer to imagine a virus that can fly around
in the air and attack people. Any other kind of a virus
could not be made to frighten people into making large
donations and in being vaccinated in the hope of protecting
against it. Without an "air-borne" virus to play
with, the whole vaccine racket would collapse. Therefore,
the people are constantly reminded that polio is
"catching" and they must have anti-polio
"shots" that are intended to build up
"anti-bodies" (which are also mythical
suppositions). Although the promoters of the virus theory of
polio insist that viruses are living organisms that fly
around in the air and cause polio, this has never been
proved. This unscientific, unsound, and undemonstrated virus
theory of causation not only has no value, but it might
safely be said that it has had the opposite effect. The
rapid and ungoverned spread of polio is largely due to the
misplaced confidence in the wrong belief. The popular
practice of combating a false theory, not only leaves the
disease unchecked but it directs the attention away from the
real causes and discourages true investigation.


Although Ellanor Mcbean appears to have been wrong about the
existence of anti-bodies, elswhere in the book she makes an
important point:

Dr.
Shelton writes: "The whole of the modern medical
practice of vaccine, serum and antitoxin therapy is based
upon the supposition that the body manufactures substances
called anti-toxins, anti-bodies, antigens, etc., which are
capable of meeting and destroying toxins that get into the
body. The idea seems to be sound, although it is possible
that the work of destroying such toxins is that of the
detoxification carried on by the liver, and lymph glands,
etc. Anti-toxins, antibodies, antigens, etc., have never
been isolated. They have only been assumed, while the
practice based upon their assumed existence has been both a
failure and disaster. However, this may not be due to their
non-existence. If they exist it is impossible to separate
them from the proteins of the animal’s blood (in making
vaccines) and these proteins when injected directly into the
blood of another animal (or human being) are very poisonous.
Besides this, there is no evidence that the anti-toxins of
one species can be made use of by another species. Where
vaccines are employed, it constitutes the introduction of
actual disease matter into the blood. That is, the supposed
causitive germs or some product of the disease is introduced
into the body. The consequences are often terrible. Real
benefits are never observed.


"If the hypothesis that the body manufactures
anti-toxins, anti-bodies, etc., is correct it still remains
to be proven that the body ever manufactures these greatly
in excess of the need for them. It cannot be shown that
‘free’ anti-toxin, anti-bodies, etc., are suspended in
the blood serum and can therefore be transferred to another
animal in sufficient quantities to be of use to the
receiving animal. In keeping with a general law of life, it
is very probable that the body does manufacture an excess of
anti-bodies, but it cannot be shown that it retains these
after the need for them has ceased. On the contrary, in
keeping with another general law of life, it is very
probable that the body begins to get rid of them the very
instant the need for them ceases. If they exist they are
chemical substances produced to meet an emergency and will
be cast out as soon as the emergency ceases to
exist."

The
renowned Dr. Antoine Bechamp, one of the world’s foremost
scientists and bacteriologists, observed that the
micro-organisms that are ordinarily called germs, evolve out
of decaying cells they helped to build, and take part in the
decomposing of the ever changing life substance and help to
form it into material usable again by nature. Thus, when
germs are found within a sick body it is not that they
entered from outside and caused the disease. It is because
they developed from the decaying cells within the body and
have an important part to play in helping to handle the
waste and destruction brought about by serums, drugs and
other poisons forced upon the body from without. Perhaps our
modern bacteriologists have seen this activity of the
"microzymas" and jumped to the conclusion that
they are anti-bodies fighting disease and that they (the
doctors) must inject more of (corrected from oL) them into
the body by way of vaccines. But anyone with common sense
and reasoning can see that this would only interfere and
disrupt the well organized efforts of nature. This is the
reason why vaccination has taken such a heavy toll of lives
and has produced such widespread disease.

VACCINES DROP THE IMMUNE SYSTEM WHEN WE MOST NEED IT. THIS IS A PROBLEM.
Antibodies then, or microzymas, are only one part of the
equation in health. The immune system also uses white blood
cells and other defenses, and as Dr. Mcbean shows later in
the book,

The
orthodox and dominant school of healing—Medicine—-has
taught us and deliberately popularized the false and absurd
notion that Disease Is An Entity— something that invades
the body from without; that there are microbes, germs,
viruses, capable of causing (communicable) disease and that
specific pathogenic bacteria produce specific disease by
invading the animal tissues: that inoculation of pus and
other pathogenic products into the organism produces
resistance or immunity to infection by once being infected
and that this immunity can be transferred to another. It is
claimed in medical textbooks that the body produces specific
protective substances called Antibodies, and that these must
be obtained from another person or some animal which has
produced them by having been infected by minute amounts of
poisonous products from a specific disease.

We
do not deny the existence of microbes but we do deny that
there are any insidious, man-eating, death-dealing
pathogenic bacteria capable of causing pathology. Natural
Hygiene—a school of rational, wholesome and total living
(which originated in the United States 125 years ago)
declares that Toxemia is the universal basic cause of all
pathology and so-called disease. Toxemia is the accumulation
of body waste and is produced by anything and everything
that enervates the body. Enervation is produced by anything
that uses up excess energy, e.g. poisons, denatured foods,
lack of sleep, rest, relaxation, fresh air and sunshine,
overeating, sexual excesses, dissipations of all kinds,
worry, fear, jealousy, mental self-abuse, unpleasant human
and social relations, faulty economic conditions. This
checks elimination and permits accumulation of body waste.
Bacteria do not cause pathology but are rather the effects
of disease. They are, we might say, Scavengers—a necessary
by-product of diseased tissues of the impaired organism. It
should be emphasized that only TRUE NATURAL IMMUNITY can be
attained through a state of INTERNAL CLEANLINESS based on
legitimate nutrition and hygienic living habits. Our
orthodox medical practitioners all seek for a way to make
UNCLEAN LIVING SAFE by creating a hypothetical ARTIFICIAL
IMMUNITY through immunization and thus protect us from the
natural consequences of our daily violations of the laws of
life.


Numerous experiments with germs conducted in the past have
conclusively proven that bacteria:


Numerous experiments with germs conducted in the past have
conclusively proven that bacteria does not and cannot
produce disease in a healthy organism. Years ago, Dr.
Pettenkofer, professor at the University of Vienna, came to
the conclusion that germs alone do not produce pathology and
for years defended his position from the lecture platform
and in his writings. On more than one occasion he and his
assistants swallowed the contents of glasses containing
millions of living cholera germs. Dr. Thomas Powell of
California, who is believed to have taken more germs than
any other man, challenged his medical colleagues to produce
a single disease by germ inoculation. He was inoculated with
cholera germs, bubonic plague germs and bacteria of every
description and which was fed to him in every kind of food,
yet nothing happened. Read U.S. Government Bulletin
"Hygienic Laboratory—Bulletin No. 123, Feb.
1921", for further proof on contagious diseases.

HIS IMMUNE SYSTEM IS FINE, AUTISM...THE IMMUNE SYSTEM IS NOT WORKING.

Which disproves the statements made in "Healing the
Symptoms Known as Autism," to the effect that it had
been proved that germs cause peptic ulcers.

THERE ARE NOT THE SAME...YOU ARE COMPARING APPLES TO ORANGES.

Germs do not cause disease
LACK OF THE IMMUNE SYSTEMC IS THE PROBLEM, by themselves or in combination
with viruses. It is only with the introduction of toxins and
deficiency that these take on the appearance of being
pathogenic. This may also be true of the worms
PATHOGENS...IT DOESNT MATTER WHICH ONES SINCE CD KILLS ALL OF THEM.
which Kerri
Rivera and so many others, keep finding in their
childrens' and their own stools. The parasites might be
an exception to this rule, but it is doubtful whether they
could continue to cause trouble long in a perfectly health
body, being cared for according to right principles of
health.

We,
I, do not believe in the germ theory of disease. Like Dr.
Mcbean I view germs as the result and not the cause of ill
health. I think if Kerri Rivera and Dr. Andreas Kalcker, and
others, were to incorporate the views of Bechamp into their
practice, they would be able to be much closer to fully
healing the symptoms we know as autism.


There is another thing which makes alarm bells ring. As we
mentioned there is a contradiction in the views expressed by
Kerri and in the views of those promoting the parasite
protocol, who regard green juices as essential.to creating
the Alkaline environment which parasites cannot thrive in.
This made me realize something in regard to antioxidants.
Dr. Andreas kalcker also states to the effect, or quotes
another doctor to the effect that "berries best be
eaten because they are delicious, not because the reduce
cancer. This made me think of a study I had found while
researching fluoride. It was on the first page the first
time I was there. I had to look for it this time, but I
found it:

YOU CAN USE GREEN JUICES IF IT IS ALL VEGGIE AND ONLY MAYBE A HALF OF A GREEN APPLE. BERRIES CAN BE TAKEN AT DINNER AFTER THE LAST DOSE OF CD.

Protective effects of blackberry and quercetin on sodium
fluoride-induced oxidative stress and histological changes
in the hepatic, renal, testis and brain tissue of male
rat




Author:

Hamza RZ, El-Shenawy NS, Ismail HA.


Journal Name:

Journal of Basic and Clinical Physiology and Pharmacology


Publish Date:
May
1, 2015


Volume/Page:

26(3):237-51.


Type:

Animal Study



Categories:

Brain, Brain Cellular/Tissue Effects, Kidney,
Nephrotoxicity, Liver, Mechanisms of Cellular Toxicity,
Oxidative Stress, Reproductive Toxicity, Testes,
Anti-Oxidants, Nutritional Status





Abstract


BACKGROUND: Sodium fluoride (NaF) intoxication is associated
with oxidative stress and altered antioxidant defense
mechanism. The present study was carried out to evaluate the
potential protective role of blackberry and quercetin (Q)
against NaF-induced oxidative stress and histological
changes in liver, kidney, testis and brain tissues of
rats.


METHODS: The rats were allocated evenly to seven groups. The
first group was maintained as the control, whereas groups 2,
3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 were administered blackberry juice (BBJ),
Q, NaF, BBJ+NaF, Q+NaF and BBJ+Q+NaF, respectively, for a
period of 30 days.


RESULTS AND CONCLUSIONS: NaF caused an elevation in lipid
peroxidation level paralleled with significant decline in
glutathione peroxidase, glutathione reductase, glutathione
S-transferase, superoxide dismutase and catalase activities
as well as the total antioxidant activity in liver, kidney,
testes and brain. Some histopathological changes were
detected in all tested tissues of the NaF treated group. Q
and BBJ had successfully maintained normal histological
architecture and mitigated the induction of oxidative stress
caused by NaF. Q effectively reduced the elevation in
thiobarbituric acid reactive substances level and restored
the activities of antioxidant enzymes in liver, kidney,
testis and brain. Less histopathological changes were
observed in Q+NaF and BBJ+NaF treated groups. As a result,
BBJ and Q significantly reduced NaF-induced oxidative and
histological changes in rats. In the combination of BBJ and
Q against NaF toxicity, the effects were more severe than
from separate exposure, thus indicating that these
flavonoids exhibited synergistic effects on all antioxidant
and histological parameters

fluoridealert.org/studytracker/21822/


Now don't come at me with the weak response that
everyone needs antioxidants and that we have to balance them
out with oxidants. That is not the point here. Every
antioxidant, which has the effect of neutralizing Chlorine
Dioxide, also has the effect of reducing the toxic stress
of, or of outright eliminating toxins. This can't just
be a matter of antioxidants, for the Diet has vegetables,
which are chock-a-block with them too and according to
Kerri, they are allowed. DMSO is the most powerful
antioxidant in existence(Archie H. Scott, The Doctor's
DMSO Handbook), and yet it is taken directly with Chlorine
Dioxide, and it takes an hour for DMSO to neutralize the
compound, which is incidentally how long CD is active in the
body. And yet Vitamin C. a much weaker antioxidant, cannot
be taken directly with Chlorine Dioxide. Do you want to know
what the difference is between Vitamin C. and DMSO? When
Vitamin C comes into contact with a toxin, it instantly
works to neutralize it. When DMSO comes into contact with a
toxin, it CARRIES IT, while in some cases making it LESS
TOXIC. Thus the hour needed to neutralize Chlorine
Dioxide.
DMSO IS GREAT YET DOES NOT DO ANYTHING FOR MANY AND IS MIRACULOUS FOR OTHERS. WITH SIBS WE HAVE TO TRY DMSO FOR THE PAIN. SIBS IS A SIGN OF PAIN.
That
statement, and the horror it engendered, led me to another
realization about Chlorine Dioxide. And that is the
aforementioned worms and the pictures of them I saw in
Kerri's book. Now, I've seen worms. I have cats, and
one day one just threw up right on my door step. In the
yellow and grass, the main part of the throw up was a
writing white worm. Two worms. Maybe three. Small, extremely
slender and pale, they writhed with tips, at each end of
them, which looked almost like the head of a pin, or a
blunted needle, or like a picture of a finger on a computer,
stretched out in word till the tip was almost a pinhead.
They were clearly worms, they were unmistakably different
from what I would have recognized as the intestines of the
cat. They writhed for about half a minute and then slowed,
never to move, as worms, again. That is when I realize that
the worms Kerri was showing in the book did not look like
this. They were not really worms in appearance, the looked
more like the SLOUGHED OFF INSIDES OF INTESTINES. Of cource,
she stated that there were pictures of worms writhing, but I
did not find any in her book. THEY were all limp, the ones
in the book.
THESE THINGS THAT COME OUT OF THE KIDS AS THE KIDS BEGIN TO RECOVER/HEAL FROM THE AUTISM SYMPTOMS IS THROUGH THE PASSING OF THE PATHOGENS WHATEVER THE NAME IS WE CHOSE TO USE FOR THEM. CD KILLS PATHOGENS...ALL OF THEM. AND IT DOESN'T MATTER THE NAME OF THE PATHOGEN, CD WILL KILL THEM THROUGH OXIDATION.
I
realize I have been combative, and sounded angry. That is
because I want you to take these questions and concerns
SERIOUSLY. I have tried to provide evidence for where I am
coming from. As someone who has taken CD for over a week and
as someone who might one day want to help people with the
techniques found in this and other books, I need to have
these concerns addressed and contradictions reconciled, so
that I can have faith in this system that I am using, and
continue to have faith in it so that I can continue to
recommend it to others. I say this, keeping in mind the
warning of "Parallax,"
I DO NOT GET OFFENDED. MY MISSION IS TO HELP THOSE WHO WANT MY HELP. I DO NOT CLAIM TO KNOW EVERYTHING NOR AM I PERFECT. BUT, I HAVE SEEN A TREND AND THAT HAVE BEEN MORE SUCCESSFUL THAN ANYTHING WE HAVE SEEN FOR AUTISM SINCE AUTISM COME INTO FULL BLOOM ABOUT 20 YEARS AGO.

Speculative men, by the force of genius may

p.
2


invent systems that will perhaps be greatly admired for a
time; these, however, are phantoms which the force of truth
will sooner or later dispel; and while we are pleased with
the deceit, true philosophy with all the arts and
improvements that depend upon it, suffers. The real state of
things escapes our observation; or, if it presents itself to
us, we are apt either to reject it wholly as fiction, or, by
new efforts of a vain ingenuity to interweave it with our
own conceits, and labour to make it tally with our favourite
schemes. Thus, by blending together parts so ill-suited, the
whole comes forth an absurd composition of truth and error.
* * * These have not done near so much harm as that pride
and ambition which has led philosophers to think it beneath
them to offer anything less to the world than a complete and
finished system of Nature; and, in order to obtain this at
once, to take the liberty of inventing certain principles
and hypotheses from which they pretend to explain all her
mysteries."


"Theories are things of uncertain mode. They depend, in
a great measure, upon the humour and caprice of an age,
which is sometimes in love with one, and sometimes with
another.

www.sacred-texts.com/earth/za/za04.html



As Acharya S. said to Christian Apologists, "Prove me
wrong, PLEASE!"

I HAVE NOT COME TO THIS MISSION TO FIGHT. I AM ONLY SHARING WHAT I HAVE SEEN TO WORK IN AUTISM. NO ONE HAS TO AGREE WITH ME. I AM ONLY SHARING WITH PEOPLE WHO WANT TO KNOW.




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So a few things. for one, literally, it isn't true that she only sticks with what she knows. If that were true she would still be practicing DAN! and never have incorporated the CD. I realize that this is an autistic way of looking at it though, and I think I understand what she means. It is just disappointing to hear that. The last time I heard it was from Dr. Joseph Cubells, who said essentially the same thing as Kerri: "I am a psycho Pharmacologist. If you don't want to take my drugs, I cannot help you." It is also always disappointing to hear that because it tells us the person is not open to learning new things. He was talking about Vitamin therapy and essentially saying the same thing as Kerri, just from a different perspective.

She also did not fully explain the antioxidant contradiction, but this therapy has helped me so much I just feel I must overlook that and continue on it anyway. I am up to five drops and I will do a booster drop later today. It is the baby bottle method, similar to what Michael Harrah used in his testimonial on the MMS testimonials channel, in the 30+ minute interview he did. It is applied as covered in Kerri's book.

Despite these disapointments, I still feel she was very helpful overall, even if my original statement, which I felt was true at the time, about her answering all my questions, was not completely accurate.

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I took my booster drop. It calmed me. I did get a slight sore throat, which did not last, and a runny nose, which are signs respectively, of biofilm reduction and detoxification. I also used sodium chlorite on an itching place on my neck / thyroid. It burned so I wasn't able to hold it on very long, but I rinsed it off and after it felt much better. It did not itch aggressively , or at all, nor did it burn.

Another thing I have noticed, since starting this, is that my ears, which before one of them or the other, usually the left ear always felt as if it had wax or fluid in it, and this has gone away. I think the Terminator Orgonite Zapper I am using has also helped with this, as have the other pieces of orgonite, tower buster and pendent, as well as the crystals are helping with these issues. Clearly though, AND CD MMS is helping as well.

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We are up to seven drops, plus booster. We will continue to document our progress here if that is ok with mods. Already feeling better after first drop of the day. Went ahead and took the one drop booster. Will try to be cautious about ramping up too fast. Sense of Smell is coming back, which makes the CD smell stronger, even at one drop dose. We love the smell and taste of CD. I know most people hate it but for us it is great. Our max dose, as per weight chart, will be 32.

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