The only way to cure Hiv with MMS

Hi Sebastian,

You'll be happy to know that based on a lot of research out there, CLO2 actually is VERY effective against the family of Lipid Coated Viruses (LCVs), which HIV is a part of. Below are some links to documents that you and others will probably want to read. The first is a patent issued in 2000 that is saying that the viral load in the patients tested was substantially decreased via intravenous CLO2 administration at a very low ppm dose (after doing the math it comes out to be about 40ml of 3.375ppm injected). The other 2 documents go over testing that was done on HIV1 and other LVC viruses such as Influenza and Measles and show the effectiveness of CLO2 against them at low ppm dosages. Please let me know if you have any question about information put forth here.







I hope this help everyone.

May you all be well,
Scott

Here's another study by the researcher Norio Ogata, which explains the mechanism of deactivation of the viruses in very technical terms which in a nutshell is basically the the oxidation of particular proteins of the viruses that are important to it's function.

That may be great for science, but what happens in a petri dish is not relevant to the human body.

Viral load is a con, Dr. Kary Mullis, who won a Nobel Prize for this revolutionary creation, explains that "PCR makes it possible to identify a needle in a haystack by turning the needle into a haystack."139 While PCR has provided many realms of science and industry with an effective new tool, its application to AIDS research has been far more misleading than useful.

You can read about Viral load here:
aliveandwell.org/
under T cells and Viral load.

Let's face the reality here, how many people out there in the real world would have access to this? very few, so what is the relevance of even bringing this up? none.
Lets stick to what is tangable here, instead of going off on a tangent. Crush the Lipid coating, then target the virus.

I want persons to share their results here if they follow this. I do not want a pointless discussion on some irrelevant theory.
Regards Sebastian

I'm not going to argue with you Sebastian, I don't have the time for it. If you want to ignore the fact that this type of virus can be oxidized by CLO2 in the blood even without the oils you're promoting that's your problem. I've done my job of informing you.

May you be well,
Scott

Bluesmurf said:

MMS cannot kill Hiv as the lipid shell protects the virus.

This is the only way you are going to CURE yourself of this virus...

referring to his idea on killing HIV.

I want persons to share their results here if they follow this. I do not want a pointless discussion on some irrelevant theory.

With that attitude you will be waiting a long time. So, you are telling us how to run this forum? I don't think so. Your time on this forum may be short-lived. You are being watched.


If field trial results mean anything to you, read the following excerpt from Jim Humble's newest book:

In 2009, I went to Malawi, a small country in southeast Africa. While there, 800 HIV/AIDS cases came to me. These people took only 3 drops of MMS1 every hour, for eight hours a day, for three weeks. Guess what? The 3-drop doses, taken eight hours a day for 21 days, were 99% effective in eradicating HIV/AIDS. There were only five failures out of the 800 cases, and of these five, instructions were not properly followed in one way or another.

Well CLO2, for your information, I was diagnosed in 1996, I also took MMS with citric activator 4 years ago for 3 weeks, and no result. I have been taking it 3 drops 8 times a day since December 15, and has not raised my CD4 count yet. It has made some symptoms go away, but that's it. So yes MMS does releive symtoms, but cannot get through the lipid coating, neither can food grade hydrogen peroxide, that I also tried after the MMS, and my CD4 count went from 1000 to 200. So you are watching me? big deal.
You should try living with this, which you don't. Perhaps I was wrong trying to give out this information. Perhaps I am wrong even buying MMS. Perhaps I am wrong even joining this forum.
The information I have given in vain are other researchers findings. I have attached a clinical research result from a hospital in the philippines.
In Malawi were the subjects given Western blot or elsia tests? were they followed up in the future to see the results down the line? probably not. You cannot loook at someone and say they are cured, and even if they feel well later and go back to work, who knows if they became unwell in the future? I also have the yellow book.
Ever think you are banging your head on a wall in vain, well that's me right now.

Don't bother replying to my thread, I won't be returning, as some who is living with this, not you.

Hi Sebastian,

Thanks for supplying that document. I read through the whole thing and see what you're talking about. I think you're right that consuming something like coconut oil or a half a coconut a day along with MMS might be very beneficial. And please don't take anything I said as any kind of an attach on what you provided. I was just providing what I thought would be positive information for you and certainly didn't know what you've already been through with MMS and this disease until now. Maybe somehow taking CLO2 intravenously as in the patent I provided works better than taking it orally? Maybe that's why it worked in the patients of the patent? I know if I had HIV, I would certainly give intravenous CLO2 a try - and I'd probably eat a whole fresh coconut everyday too. Here in Jakarta Indonesia where I live they're abundant and they only cost about $1 each

Thanks for your contribution Sebastian. My heart goes out to you and I hope you find just what you need to overcome this disease.

All the best,
Scott
PS. I know Jim doesn't recommend this but I know of a person who did about 10ml of CLO2 intravenously (through an IV push) a few times at different concentrations. The person tried 10ml of 87.5ppm CLO2 to 350ppm CLO2. The person said that 87.5ppm pushed slowly in was painless and the next day the person began to recover from his/her infection (not HIV). He/she also tried 150ppm and said it also caused no pain at all. He/she said 350ppm was too strong though, and it burned going in.

A reply from Bishop Jonathan Grenon:

Sebastian,
Thank you for the info you have provided, for sure I will check
into it and will do some testing with the oregano oil and Olive Leaf
Extract, I do have a bit of experience with these products.

I do have to disagree with you when you say that MMS does not cure HIV.
I personally have seen many cases of people who were healed completely
and even tested negative.

SO can what you say speed up the process and heal the person sooner? I
would agree with you. Thank you

Jonathan

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All the best,

Bishop Jonathan Grenon
Genesis II Church of Health & Healing

genesis2church.is

A further reply from Bishop Jonathan Grenon:
Sebastian,
The people would at least do the Protocol 1000 with the MMS1 drops. They would use either the HCl as the activator or citric acid, didnt matter which one. HCl was easier on their stomachs.

Some would be healed in 2-3 weeks, but most in a few months. Depends how long they have been sick it and how severe. Most people will not give their testimony, you know why already. But we have had a few give it without their identity being revealed. Go to MMStestimonials, you can see there.

I do know that that all must be organic and make sure its pure. Believe me we run into bad stuff all the time. Thanks for the tips.

If you take ARV's, the meds they give you. You will never test negative.

Jon

At last I am getting great information that I can share. I am eating half a coconut a day, with 2 x 3 soup spoons of coconut oil per day as well to hopefully weaken the lipid shell, then attack it again at the end of September with more MMS ad then hopefully I can kill this once and for all.
Until then I am going on a veg, nut, fuit and seed diet to clean myself out.
Will post back later in the year. I will be busy until then.
If anyone else does this, then please share your journey for the group.
Sebastian