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21 cats 30 Jun 2015 18:20 #49873

bonniejean Topic Author Offline New Member Posts: 4 Thank you received: 0	I have 21 cats in my house. They all have upper respiratory issues and 1 has feline leukemia. My question is, i can put drops of cds in their water but how much? I have two large water bowls for them, each contains approxmately 12 cups of water. Thanks.
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21 cats 01 Jul 2015 15:03 #49879

Horsefeathers Offline Moderator Posts: 491 Thank you received: 321	Hi! Sorry slow in answering. CDS is measured in ml. I would suggest start low say 1 ml and work up. See how well they drink. If they are not drinking then you will need to back down. Might I suggest CDH instead of CDS? The citric acid in CDS turns a lot of animal off. CDH might not taste to bad to them and have less stomach upset thus better all the way around! Just a thought!
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21 cats 01 Jul 2015 17:30 #49880

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Denise, CDS contains only chlorine dioxide gas (CLO2) dissolved in distilled water, if it is make correctly. CDH will have some acid remaining in it although less than MMS1. MMS1 and CDH both will taste better if made with 4% HCL instead of 50% citric acid. The G2C now recommends 4% HCL as the preferred acid activator to make all the SCS (sodium chlorite solutions).

CDS should not have any taste at low doses, such as the 1ml dose you suggest in the cat's water bowls. The water bowls should not be made from metal, however.

Some suppliers are selling so-called "Stabilized" CDS which contains some unactivated MMS (22.4% sodium chlorite solution) which might be a good choice for this application. The reason for adding MMS to CDS is to bring the acid CDS pH up toward a normal pH 7 for IV use, although the G2C does not recommend using CDS for IV injections unless one has training in administering IVs.

But, for the purpose of adding chlorine dioxide (CLO2) to these sick cat's water bowls, the added MMS to "Stabilize" CDS may activate in the water and provide some additional CLO2. CDS will outgas from the water while the added MMS may activate over time and provide some CLO2.

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21 cats 01 Jul 2015 20:58 #49881

Horsefeathers Offline Moderator Posts: 491 Thank you received: 321	Thank you CLO2. Things have changed so much this past year it has been hard for me to keep it all straight!
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21 cats 01 Jul 2015 21:19 #49882

bonniejean Topic Author Offline New Member Posts: 4 Thank you received: 0	I am so confused. So I ordered the cds thinking it was mms activated. Now you are saying it is just the gas activated? I have used and no issues as of yet. Will keep a close watch for stomach problems, etc. with my cats. My understanding also was that the combined mms and activator could be used on metal just not the mms alone. You have stated no metal. Does it deactivate the MMS?
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21 cats 02 Jul 2015 02:24 #49883

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CDS is activated MMS (22.4% sodium chlorite solution). So is MMS1 and CDH. The amount of external activation is different, however. And, CDS should not have any of the original ingredients as do CDH and MMS1.

Activated MMS releases chlorine dioxide gas (CLO2) which will likes water solutions. The colder the water the longer it will stay in solution. Above 50 F it wants to outgas, so you will have to add more CDS from time-to-time.

CDS is 100% activated and should work fine for your cats if diluted enough in their water. As Denise suggested, start with 1ml of CDS and see if they will drink the water. You could stay at that dose a day or two and see if they improve. If not, increase the dose to say 2ml in each bowl. Continue increasing until they won't drink the water or they all get well.

CLO2 can attack metal so that is why plastic would be better to use for their water bowls. As mentioned, CDS will outgas over time so you should add more CDS at perhaps 3 hour intervals. Mix thoroughly to evenly disperse the CLO2 gas in their water.

Another way to dose your cats is with a syringe (no needle) filled with water and a small amount of CDS. I am sure they will like that delivery method.

Let us know what happens. Thanks!

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