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dog and cat have cancer- need help in treatment 25 Sep 2014 19:06 #47516

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My cat has a cancer tumor near the side of her head (and my dog has a cancer tumor near his rectum. I bought everything I need I just need help in figuring out how much and to give both of them. I bought the MMS kit and the DSMO so that I can apply right on the tumors. Has anyone had any experience with dosing internally and external? Please help me.

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dog and cat have cancer- need help in treatment 25 Sep 2014 19:43 #47517

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Start very low and work up to tolerance. When they vomit or have diarrhea then stop for the day and let them recover. Next day start again 1 drop less. Dose every hour for 8 hours. You may have to start smaller than 1 drop for the kitty. The dog too if it is a real small dog.
Apply the DMSO right at the time of dosing as it uses up the MMS quickly.

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dog and cat have cancer- need help in treatment 03 Oct 2014 08:38 #47615

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I used this protocol on my cat Leo who had multiple external fast growing tumors in his rectal area (external):

Cat Spray MMS

20 drops MMS into clear 2 oz spray bottle, add12 drops 50% Citric Acid. Wait 3-5 minutes then add 1oz water. Keep in fridge. Last 4-6 days. Keep 70/30 DMSO in frosted spray bottle, non-refrigerated. Spray MMS mixture over entire area and then spray DMSO over that same area. I applied both generously and let it dry on its own. Keep DMSO at room temps.
The external tumors stopped growing almost immediately. Soon they turned grayish. Then they began to shrivel and flatten. By the end of the week they flaked off.

Now I have a leukemia positive cat, 11 years old who is quite ill. Vet said today there is a large mass behind her liver. She has had hepatic lipidosis (fatty liver disease) several times before so her liver is a weak point. I am doing the internal protocol as best I can but she hates the taste of the activated and non-activated mms. She gags and vomits all the food I force feed her if I try to use it. I am going to try to mask it in applesauce next if I can find some without vitamin C. I sprayed the mix over the liver tumor area with dmso but then remembered if an animal or person has a liver issue dmso may not be a good idea. I guess I will have to just use the mms spray and hope for the best. I have been doing the internal protocol (10 hours daily) for weeks now but I think the closeness of my feedings is negating the mms. I am very worried for her. I wish Jim had a separate cat protocol as they are so different in what they can tolerate compared to humans and other animals. I watch over hundreds of homeless cats in several locations around the valley as well as do tnr and rescue/rehoming if I can. MMS is a godsend as it is inexpensive but I get confused trying to properly dose. Still trying to figure out MMS2 as I think it may be preferable to MMS for cats at least. Some say do one grain at a time and then I read fill up a capsule and administer. Lots of granules in a capsule I would think.

I am discovering it best to go straight to the posted protocols and use what works for people who post with trepidation as I read some stuff that they interpreted wrong. I got the above protocol from one of the Bishops in Arizona so I feel it is correct and it did shrink the tumors.

Oh, make sure you are doing the internal protocol as well as chances are the tumors are growing inside his colon as well.
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dog and cat have cancer- need help in treatment 03 Oct 2014 11:31 #47618

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HI! Thank you for all your info!
MMS2 is not recommended for animals as it must be in a capsule and followed by a lot of water or the reaction is nasty. Even for people it is suggested to start with 1 grain and work up as it can be to strong for the ill.

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dog and cat have cancer- need help in treatment 03 Oct 2014 21:19 #47632

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You mentioned the need to use lots of fluids when using MMS2. Do those fluids need to be taken orally or can they be sub-q? I typically give my sick and dehydrated cats 100 ml sub q sodium chloride fluids (lactated ringer) once a day. As you probably know sub q or subcutaneous fluids are given through a sterile bag of fluids via a needle under the cats skin. Cats are notorious for not drinking enough water thereby dehydrating themselves and not allowing the necessary hydration to organs and flushing out toxins. Or is the oral/drinking of water more important to wash down the MMS2?

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dog and cat have cancer- need help in treatment 03 Oct 2014 21:33 #47633

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As far as I know MMS2 has never been used that way. I would be afraid to do so.

From what I gather the fluid is to help keep from very serious upset and burning.

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dog and cat have cancer- need help in treatment 04 Oct 2014 00:50 #47635

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Hi, I'm very interested in this thread because on Sept 8th 2014, my husband and I adopted two wonderful cats. They came from a (well-meaning) animal hoarding situation in our area where 49 animals were removed from someone's home.

I've been treating both with CDH and sometimes DMSO ( I'll explain in a bit.) The male, "Liam," is about 8 mos old. The female, "Lily," is about 4 yrs old. They are now spayed and neutered. They are likely related. Both are B&W shorthair domestics. Lovely temperaments and so so much FUN! I want them to thrive!

Because the adoption was through the humane society, they have both gone through all of the shots. They had likely never been vaccinated for anything. I do not consider that a bad thing. We just lost our tiny outside "Angel" to an owl and she was at least 24 years old. Great shape. She came with our property. Never vaccinated for anything other than what the animal vaccination trend was in this area back when her first owners had her spayed (that was probably when she was within her first two years, I'd guess). She was incredibly fit and healthy.

But our new little guys have been through the whole vaccination regime. They both were treated for cat respiratory disease (forget what it's called). They were also both treated for ear mites and ringworm. The humane society folks told us that they actually saw the active fungus (ringworm) on the male. But I understand that a cat can have ringworm (and spread it) without symptoms. People can contract it from animals. I understand that MMS does not work on some types of fungus. So I'm wondering about how to treat ringworm in cats if it should act up. The vet told me it usually appears on the face of cats.

Here's how I've been treating them with MMS (and CDH & DMSO): 3 drops activated MMS in 1 oz of distilled water. I then use a no-needle syringe and shoot 1.5 ml in each of their mouths twice a day. I'm just winging it. Neither of them had been ill from it, so I keep the dose the same. The female hated it and hides when she thinks it's time for her dose. The male is easy to treat. I'd like to know how to safely increase the dose and how high to go. They are each under 6.5 lbs.

I see a bit of black crud from ear mites in mostly Lily's ears. (The vet said they were both "treated" for ear mites while at the shelter, but I did not ask what that treatment was). Anyway, I remove the black crud with a Q-tip as best I can and then I use a little eye dropper bottle and drop a few drops of MMS (for EARS) solution in each their ears. That solution is about the same as what I'm giving them orally. I made it up months ago and forgot the recipe. I marked the little dropper bottle "EARS." I've treated the ear mites only twice. They are getting rather skiddish with all this medical intervention and I cannot stand pestering them more than needed.

Liam (the male) got a little wound on his face a few days ago when he accidentally got closed into the basement closet. We heard him crying loudly and when my husband freed him, he said that's when he noticed the little wound on his face. I treated this little wound 3 times by applying the following dose to his cute little cheek with a Q-Tip:

straight CDH (about 1 ml, and about the same amount of DMSO (I buy quality DMSO from AZ. supplier WPS4sale) I treated Liam's wound twice over two days. It might be healing faster than it otherwise would have, but that's hard to tell really.

Like I said, I'm winging it. Anyone who has experience treating cat respiratory disease, ringworm, and wounds, please reply to this post. I am so pleased to hear about the successes recently reported here in this thread.
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dog and cat have cancer- need help in treatment 04 Oct 2014 01:21 #47636

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For ringworm use Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar with the Mother. Soak a cotton ball with it and dab it on the scaly ringworm areas taking care not to get it in their eyes. You may notice the vinegar foam up a bit as it contacts the ringworm areas. It should then form a scab. Do this every day and you will find the ringworm will stop spreading and the scabs fall away. If you catch the ringworm do the same regime for yourself. Ringworm goes away after a couple of weeks on its own but it is a bit unsightly, but not as bad as ear mites. As a pet owner you need to have Braggs in your tool kit.

Personally I just got extremely ill one night last week and I remembered the symptoms from a past bout with kidney stones. I had my neighbor drive me to the supermarket (instead of emergency this time) to buy 4 gallons of apple cider. When I got home I filled up a glass of cider and poured a couple of tablespoons of Braggs in it and started my cleanse. Soon after my extreme vomit session I kept drinking it and within an hour passed my kidney stone. I was a bit tired the next day but at least I didn't wake up in the hospital with a big bill that I can't afford to pay. Lots of info on Braggs on the web. Everyone should have some in their kitchen.

I found and then rescued a male tomcat whose face was half ripped off from scratching so hard under his jaw line. I could pick up the bottom part of his face and lift it up to his eyes. It was horrible so you want to get a handle on the ear mites. There aren't a lot of good ways to do that which don't involve pesticides of some sort. You could try drowning them with a few drops of olive oil daily. Wipe off the excess. The thing is the mites will travel down to the neck when harassed. If I could afford it I would use Revolution. It isn't too holistic but it kills the mites once and for all as well as other parasites in the cat. You have to do all animals at the same time that are living in your household or the mites will just jump from one to the other. My guess is they were treated with Ivermectin at the shelter. It is another pesticide used on pets and farm animals. Dogs with white feet can die if it is used on them. Not sure why but my friend almost lost hers and when I asked my vet about it she said "white feet don't treat" (with ivermectin). My friend uses it on her horses and her dog managed to lick the side of the empty container as she was walking it over to the trash.

I have another cat named Jax who I just discovered with a huge wound on his belly which he created on his own by constantly licking it. It has broken through several layers of skin. I started spraying the wound daily with just the mms solution I posted above (not the dmso) and it is already healing nicely.

I am very sorry about Angel. Took me a while to find a home where there were no owls, hawks or coyotes around as they are certain death to cats and small dogs. Night time is especially dangerous. Keep your cats inside as they have no idea about those things if they are domesticated inside cats.

Oh, apple cider vinegar is also helpful with respiratory problems in cats and dogs. Do the cotton ball thing between the shoulder blades. Mix some with water and squirt it in their mouth. MMS may also be helpful depending on the other symptoms as sometimes there are secondary problems but if any animal is having a hard time breathing get them to the vet right away as it could be a symptom of something else going on that you are not seeing.

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dog and cat have cancer- need help in treatment 04 Oct 2014 03:10 #47637

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Thanks Robtempe for the information about using Braggs Apple Cider Vinegar. I will certainly be looking into that. And also the information about your experience with ear mites. I'll make sure they get treated. They both have white feet. You said dogs with white feet, but I suppose you meant to include cats?

I have friends with kidney stone problems. Could you please offer the exact details for the cider treatment you do? You may want to start a newly titled thread for that.
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