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26 May 2014 05:55 #44722 by Ray
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I have read many encouraging testimonies on prostate cancer, so two months ago when I was diagnosed I mixed up my CDS (3000ppm minimum) and started protocol 1000 for two weeks then increased my cds to 20ml per 10 hour day... I did this for 7 weeks and today had my psa tested again... it has not moved.
very discouraged. still 4.5... no reduction at all.
A couple of days I had a coffee with lunch but only a couple... I have read the reasons why it may not be working and I am not doing anything wrong that I can tell..... cds measures correctly on the test strip...drinking with bottled water.. no other vitamins or minerals especially "C"... no wrong food...

Can anyone weigh in here and make a statement.... I am not feeling like continuing.... but the operation the doctors are pushing is no good....

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26 May 2014 10:08 - 26 May 2014 10:13 #44724 by nzdutchie
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Sorry to hear that things haven't improved for you but then, they haven't got worse either, so be positive. I wonder if some of the problem, may be that the cds is not reaching the prostate to help eliminate the cancer cells. An idea could be soak your feet in cds, so cds is absorbed into the skin and travels through the lymphatic system. You can also put on some latex gloves and put cds in them so cds is absorbed through the hands as well. Maybe using DMSO and cds on the outside of your body below the prostate can be of benefit as well. But I don't have any experience with DMSO.

I was watching a youtube video about banned cancer cures (
) and was thinking what the different cures had in common. One thing, I think they have in common, is that they slowly turn the body's pH slightly alkaline again. Cancer cells don't like an alkaline environment. So maybe a diet that helps turn the body pH more alkaline would be of benefit. . Another thing to look at, is liposomal vitamin C.
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This list of foods that effect body pH, which was taken from a running website.
Alkaline and Neutral Foods
The foods listed on the table below are foods that either promote an alkaline response in the body or have very little effect on the body’s pH. The positive or negative number next to each food item indicates its potential alkalinity (+) or acidity (-) per gram. The higher the positive number the better the food is to help you reduce the lactic acid and balance the carbon dioxide levels running may build up in your body.
Alkaline ......................................... .. Neutral
Alfalfa Grass +29.3 ......................................... .. ..Apples -8,5
Asparagus +1.3 ......................................... .. .Apricot -9.5
Barley Grass +28.1 ......................................... .. .. Banana, Ripe -10.1
Broccoli +14.4 .......................................... .. .Banana, Unripe +4.8
Brussels Sprouts +0.5 .......................................... .. .Black Currant -6.1
Cabbage Lettuce, Fresh +14.1 ......................................... .. .. Blueberry -5.3
Cauliflower +3.1 .......................................... .. .Cantaloupe -2.5
Cayenne Pepper +18.8 ........................................... .. Cherry, Sour +3.5
Celery +13.3 ......................................... .. .Cherry, Sweet -3.6
Chives +8.3 .......................................... .. .Coconut, Fresh +0.5
Comfrey +1.5 ......................................... .. ..Cranberry -7.0
Cucumber, Fresh +31.5 ......................................... .. ..Currant -8.2
Dandelion +22.7 ......................................... .. ..Date -4.7
Dog Grass +22.6 .......................................... .. .Fig Juice Powder -2.4
Endive, Fresh +14.5 ........................................... .. Gooseberry, Ripe -7.7
French Cut Green Beans +11.2 .......................................... .. .Grape, Ripe -7.6
Garlic +13.2 .......................................... .. .Grapefruit -1.7
Green Cabbage December Harvest +4.0 ........................................... .. Italian Plum -4.9
Green Cabbage +2.0 ......................................... .. ..Mandarin Orange -11.5
Kamut Grass +27.6 ......................................... .. ..Mango -8.7
Lamb’s Lettuce +4.8 .......................................... .. .Orange -9.2
Leeks (Bulbs) +7.2 ......................................... .. .Papaya -9.4
Lettuce +2.2 ......................................... .. ..Peach -9.7
Onion +3.0 ......................................... .. ..Pear -9.9
Peas, Fresh +5.1 ......................................... .. ..Pineapple -12.6
Peas, Ripe +0.5 ......................................... .. ..Raspberry -5.1
Red Cabbage +6.3 ......................................... .. ..Red Currant -2.4
Rhubarb Stalks ......................................... .. ..Rose Hips -15.5
Beet +11.3 ......................................... .. ..Strawberry -5.4
Carrot +9.5 ......................................... .. ..Tangerine -8.5
Horseradish +6.8 ......................................... .. ..Watermelon -1.0
Kohlrabi +5.1
Potatoes +2.0
Red Radish +16.7
Rutabaga +3.1
Summer Black Radish +39.4
Turnip +8.0
White Radish (Spring) +3.1
Avocado +15.6
Fresh Lemon +9.9
Limes +8.2
Tomato +13.6
Buckwheat Groats +0.5
Granulated Soy (Cooked Ground Soy Beans) +12.8
Lentils +0.6
Lima Beans +12.0
Quinoa +
Soy Flour +2.5
Soy Lecithin (Pure) +38.0
Soy Nuts (soaked Soy Beans, Then Air Dried) +26.5
Soybeans, Fresh +12.0
Spelt +0.5
Tofu +3.2
White Beans (Navy Beans) +12.1
Caraway Seeds +2.3
Cumin Seeds +1.1
Fennel Seeds +1.3
Flax Seeds +1.3
Pumpkin Seeds +5.6
Sesame Seeds +0.5
Sunflower Seeds +5.4
Wheat Kernel +11.4
Borage Oil +3.2
Evening Primrose Oil +4.1
Flax Seed Oil +3.5
Marine Lipids +4.7
Olive Oil +1.0
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26 May 2014 14:59 #44728 by pam
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CDS didn't cure malaria, either - where MMS will. The issue, I believe, is the CDS - it may be "to volatile" i.e., we say that chlorine dioxide lasts 1.5 to 2 hours in the body, CDS may last as little as 20 minutes - if you want to use CDS, I would use it in a "wash" - where one pours it in the palm of their hand and adds DMSO and then places it on the area between the anus and the scrotum. I could also do MMS and CDS enemas (goal is to get the chlorine dioxide to the site of the cancer ) - as well as the oral protocol. Jim saw great success with sacrament/protocol 4000 for prostate cancer and Mark has just put out a newsletter in the last couple of weeks on prostate cancer (link to protocols at the bottom of the page, link to newsletters at top of page)
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27 May 2014 02:02 #44744 by Ray
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many thanks for the replies.. I have been adding 2 ml to the first five doses of 2ml of cds daily and the last 5 just 2ml of cds. Obviously I need to do more, not more quantity but more types of application. I have tried the mms2 capsules and can only stomach about a third of a capsule three times a day.. I will continue trying to increase that but I get stomach issues...
Since writing my post I have found out my doctor does not agree with any form of action other than operate. I requested a copy of my PSA tests and guess what the doctor was not telling me the truth.... I was 4.8 and reduced to 4.5.... so there WAS improvement....not what I hoped for but in the right direction. I will amend my efforts thanks to the great input I have just received and report back in 6 months.... Thanks again
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30 May 2014 16:23 #44837 by revrob
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We have been using MMS2 (calcium hypochlorite) very successfully for prostrate cancer. Most of the time it only takes 3 weeks to see results.

CDS is weaker than MMS1 and MMS2.

We also do a plarasite cleanse using DE and bentonite clay mix.
And make a strong spray for that area.

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30 May 2014 21:34 #44842 by mariannhvw
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Keep going Ray, focus on the improvement you have already made and will continue to do so. MMS2 is vital in prostate cancer!

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31 May 2014 01:55 #44848 by Ray
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My doc feels cancer may have also infected lymph glands lower stomach. (something showing but not confirmed)
I have to get pretty serious about it all.
I now:= use MMS1 @ 3drops per hour over 10 hours (dmso added)
two baths a day with 50 (activated) drops per bath
starting also again on MMS2. but only up to three capsules a day.
Also rubbing in mms1 with DMSO
a out to include a MMS@ foot bath to try to soak up as much as possible.. no sign of any reaction, I seem to be able to handle a lot without adverse reaction.
Would you suggest anything else?
I am overweight, and I used to eat a little something with each dose but since stopped.

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31 May 2014 02:17 #44849 by Ray
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:) Thanks Revrob
I am pushing harder with the mms2... building my intake slowly.
Hope to give a great testimony soon.
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31 May 2014 03:23 - 31 May 2014 03:26 #44854 by gjplaceres
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Ray wrote: My doc feels cancer may have also infected lymph glands lower stomach. (something showing but not confirmed)
I have to get pretty serious about it all.
I now:= use MMS1 @ 3drops per hour over 10 hours (dmso added)
two baths a day with 50 (activated) drops per bath
starting also again on MMS2. but only up to three capsules a day.
Also rubbing in mms1 with DMSO
a out to include a MMS@ foot bath to try to soak up as much as possible.. no sign of any reaction, I seem to be able to handle a lot without adverse reaction.
Would you suggest anything else?
I am overweight, and I used to eat a little something with each dose but since stopped.


More than doing the bath you should be doing the Enemas. Is more directly to the area you have the cancer. In your case I will do it three times a day or twice. Also add the Sea Water to your daily treatment. You can use Sea water in the enemas also. CDS in enemas is a better option because is already made but instead of 10 ml per 8 ounces try 20 ml of CDS per 8 ounces of water. Keep it as much as you can inside. Normally is 10 to 15 minute. IF you don't tolerate the amount reduce until you tolerate well.
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03 Jun 2014 01:01 #44940 by Dawna
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I am a firm advocate of mms, but I want to tell you there are other options other than surgery, as my husband had prostate cancer 8 years ago, we hadn't heard about mms, but we had a few friends who had surgery and were left with miserable outcomes.

First, a PSA of 5. is really low, your cancer is smaller than the tip of a pen. You must have a gleason of 6, please read this article from the Oncology Journal, here is the first and last paragraph:
www.cancernetwork.com/oncology-journal/gleason-6-prostate-cancer-serious-malignancy-or-toothless-lion

Autopsy studies of men without known prostate cancer suggest that a substantial reservoir of prostate cancer that does not cause symptoms or death exists within the population. The majority of these cancers are Gleason 6 tumors and are frequently detected by prostate-specific antigen–based prostate cancer screening. There is strong evidence from longitudinal cohort studies of men with both treated and untreated Gleason 6 prostate cancer to suggest that Gleason 6 disease, when not associated with higher-grade cancer, virtually never demonstrates the ability to metastasize and thus represents an indolent entity that does not require treatment. Whether Gleason 6 has a propensity to progress to higher-grade cancer is still under investigation. Because the term “cancer” has historically been used to represent a disease state that leads to progressive illness that is uniformly fatal without treatment, we believe Gleason 6 disease should not be labeled with this term. Our challenge now is to develop the technology to differentiate true Gleason 6 disease from the higher grades of dysplasia with which it can be associated.

and the article ends saying:
With reported median follow-up ranging from 22 to 82 months, current active surveillance cohorts remain immature at this time, and longer follow-up will be necessary to draw definitive conclusions. Thus far, cancer-specific survival among these cohorts has been > 97%, and there are no data to suggest inferior outcomes after delayed radical therapy, as compared with immediate therapy.

My husband had a lowish PSA as well, 7.60, his doctor told us that he had 30 days to decide, radiation or surgery. Later I would find out he had 20 years to decide, as prostate cancer grows slower than anything. Thankfully we found HIFU (High Intensity Focused Ultrasound), it had been invented in 1941 in Indianapolis, Indiana by a doctor who had surgery for prostate cancer and said "no man should suffer this outcome". The medical industry saw the ramifications of such a cancer machine, and they were right, it is being used to cure cancer all over the globe, except in the USA. However, there are clinical trials right now in Virginia for breast cancer.

It was a two hour procedure, where he was put to sleep using a spinal - which is to keep him from moving. After the anthesia wore off we went out to lunch and to the beach. He had no side effects ever, didn't need any drugs, no pain, no cutting, it was just a high ultrasound. We have some 10 friends who have also gone for HIFU, you can get it in the Bahamas, Mexico, Burmuda, Canada (Cleveland Clinic in Canada does it), there are many American doctors who travel to off shore to treat men, we used Dr. Stephen Scionti, the most experienced HIFU expert, he is also a cryosurgeon, which is the same technique. He will talk on the phone if you call him forever, making sure you understand every detail of your cancer, and he will also tell you that you do not need any treatment if tht's the case, he needs you to fax him your biopsy results. google him + HIFU

There is another way to combat your PSA score, and that is the hair loss drug, Finasteride. I only recommend this if you are over 60, because it messes with your hormones. It blocks one of the male testosterones, thus stopping the growth of the cancer. Orignially doctors thought it caused a more aggressive cancer later, but that has been proven totally false. I know a guy who takes 5mg finasteride for his PSA, it lowered it more than 50% right away. I guess he needs to take it forever, but he doesn't think so, as he quit after two years and his PSA has remained at the low. He said he did have a side effect, his ability to get an erection was the same, however it took longer to climax.

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