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09 Feb 2014 04:41 #39742
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Hi Bonnie
It is my understanding that distilled water has no mineral content, and that the water leaches minerals from the body. Purified or regular drinking water should suffice.
Please check your remedies on web for oxidant and anti oxidant properties. You are performing an oxidation exercise so any anti OX will conflict with this OXidation process. Some anti Ox are stronger than others.
Know what you are putting in as with OJ, and I know you're not going to give you dog OJ, but, with OJ the stomach boils till it all comes up and no progress is made.
If therapies of ox and anti ox collide, we are going nowhere.
Activate a few drops in his water bowl. It is only good for 1 hour really in an open bowl like that I think.
Rubs of active MMS carried with DMSO is another option still available.
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It is my understanding that distilled water has no mineral content, and that the water leaches minerals from the body. Purified or regular drinking water should suffice.
Please check your remedies on web for oxidant and anti oxidant properties. You are performing an oxidation exercise so any anti OX will conflict with this OXidation process. Some anti Ox are stronger than others.
Know what you are putting in as with OJ, and I know you're not going to give you dog OJ, but, with OJ the stomach boils till it all comes up and no progress is made.
If therapies of ox and anti ox collide, we are going nowhere.
Activate a few drops in his water bowl. It is only good for 1 hour really in an open bowl like that I think.
Rubs of active MMS carried with DMSO is another option still available.
He is Loved.
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09 Feb 2014 22:54 #39769
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In response to your last post, I do think that I read that prednisone acts as an antioxidant. I am now d/c the prednisone, but am afraid of the abrupt withdrawal problems, so thinking of tapering off for a few days. He is on 5mg day. I also thought I read somewhere on this site about putting unactivated MMS in the drinking water and their stomach acids will activate it. I believe it said it would last unactivated in the drinking water for a few days? All I know is that I have had him on the MMS protocol for about a month and we are still having major problems. Considering your opinion on something counteracting the MMS, I have to wonder? Just do not know what I am doing wrong though. Today is one of the worst days Woofie has had. He is extremely bloated in belly and legs. Is limping badly. Seems like the more MMS I give, the more he bloats?? Is it possible that the MMS could cause this. He seems to be in congestive hearth failure. He is having very labored breathing. He has a fever of 103.5 and is also bleeding from his paw pads! I am thinking that I am going to stop the MMS for the rest of the day and reevaluate tomorrow. My son just stopped whom hadn't seen Woofie for a week or so, and he told me that he thinks he has really declined since last time he saw him. He told me it is time to face facts.. It was hard to hear, but I know he is right. I am so upset that I failed him and I do not know what I did wrong.
If anyone has any other suggestions...................
Thanks for the support and help.
Bonnie
If anyone has any other suggestions...................
Thanks for the support and help.
Bonnie
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09 Feb 2014 23:28 #39772
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Dear Bonnie
Sometimes it is not that we fail at all. In fact you have shown your love for another.
Yes, lets stop MMS for a day and see what the weather is.
I am not encouraged by the fever etc, so lets take a break and see what Nature reveals.
It is not that you have failed. You have shown exemplary compassion for another being. Please do not accept any blame if the outcome is less than desirable.
You have done your absolute best and far more than many would do.
Sometimes it is not that we fail at all. In fact you have shown your love for another.
Yes, lets stop MMS for a day and see what the weather is.
I am not encouraged by the fever etc, so lets take a break and see what Nature reveals.
It is not that you have failed. You have shown exemplary compassion for another being. Please do not accept any blame if the outcome is less than desirable.
You have done your absolute best and far more than many would do.
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10 Feb 2014 05:47 #39788
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hi bonnie
as a dog mad person my heart goes out to you and wolfie. i have been following your ordeal and you have done absolutely your very best for wolfie and i am sure he knows it to. there is no way that you have failed him,you have treated him with the greatest love and understanding that he deserved. you did nothing wrong.wolfie couldnt have asked for a better person to care for him
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as a dog mad person my heart goes out to you and wolfie. i have been following your ordeal and you have done absolutely your very best for wolfie and i am sure he knows it to. there is no way that you have failed him,you have treated him with the greatest love and understanding that he deserved. you did nothing wrong.wolfie couldnt have asked for a better person to care for him
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10 Feb 2014 22:26 #39838
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Bonnie, I have been so worried about you and woofie. I will need to reread the rest of the answers others have sent to you - I'm so glad we have them to help us. I like you was really afraid for my little guy. Thank God he is doing better, but he was Not as ill as woofie is.
One of the things that I did was to drop down on the dose - when he started to act like he was going backwards - For his size (16 lbs he is only to have 1/2 a drop which would have been 13 ml - I cut him way down to 3 ml and he has been getting better). The water I used for his 3 ml dose was distilled water. I also have NEVER given him cdh, only activated MMS and I have been putting 20 to 25 drops unactivated MMS in 1/2 gal of Reverse osmosis water in a closed container and I change it daily.
It took 2 or 3 weeks to get his temps to be under 102 and so far they have been under that for over 10 straight days now. I take his temp only after he's been sleeping all night and now only once a day in the am.
I will read the other postings after this message of yours and will add anything I can think of.
God bless you - know that no matter what the final outcome is : You have done your very best
If and when you need to let him him go, the Lord will show you the time and give you peace.
Your little woofie knows just how great your love is for him. You're both in my prayers.
One of the things that I did was to drop down on the dose - when he started to act like he was going backwards - For his size (16 lbs he is only to have 1/2 a drop which would have been 13 ml - I cut him way down to 3 ml and he has been getting better). The water I used for his 3 ml dose was distilled water. I also have NEVER given him cdh, only activated MMS and I have been putting 20 to 25 drops unactivated MMS in 1/2 gal of Reverse osmosis water in a closed container and I change it daily.
It took 2 or 3 weeks to get his temps to be under 102 and so far they have been under that for over 10 straight days now. I take his temp only after he's been sleeping all night and now only once a day in the am.
I will read the other postings after this message of yours and will add anything I can think of.
God bless you - know that no matter what the final outcome is : You have done your very best
If and when you need to let him him go, the Lord will show you the time and give you peace.
Your little woofie knows just how great your love is for him. You're both in my prayers.
Be Blessed! I am!
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10 Feb 2014 22:48 - 10 Feb 2014 22:50 #39840
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Bonnie, I have re read the others posts. I agree with Rev Ray - "vets do not understand MMS" and NO you are poisoning woofie. MMS won't hurt him - but might make him feel worse if dose is too strong.
He is only 15 lbs so I thing the 3 drops is too much for him. According to Jim's book the dose for a 25 lb dog is only 1 - so our little ones should only get 1/2 drop.
The way Pam taught me to do that is: TO make ½ drop -- Per Bishop Pam Gotcher - Activate 1 drop – add 1 oz. (1/8 c water or 2 T. water) – add 1 drop DMSO (if using it - I DON"T use DMSO for Scot) – then give them ½ of the mixture = ½ drop -- to actually give him a full 1/2 drop I would need to
use a syringe and give him 13 ml to the ½ drop.
My dog weighs 15-16 lbs so because of his weight I should only do ½ drop. I started out at ½ drop every 2 hrs. for 6 doses, then increased it to ½ drop every hour for 8 doses, he was doing worse, so I decreased it to only 3 ml (instead of 13 ml) each hr. for 8 hrs. and he started improving.
Someone, sorry don't remember who, said even if I only gave him a "smidgen' the every hr even if for only 4 hrs was the important thing. I'm not doing it for 8 hrs now, had cut down to 5 hrs a day.
The only thing left with Lil Scot now, is a noise in his nasal - maybe like snoring - But he had been doing that from day one, only it was much louder and at that time the vets had said that his lungs were perfect and clear - so it has to be coming from his nasal passages.
I do know that Prednisone is a very powerful med and when you take them off it must be very slow -
do a smaller amount for 3 or 4 days then decrease it again for 3 or 4 days, etc etc. I took a pill cut it in half, then smaller, then smaller to take them off very gradually.
We all love you and woofie - keep the faith and know that IF the time comes for you to let him go, the Lord will let you know and will give you peace - remember - no matter what that you have done your very very best and no one could have done better. Woofie knows it.
Be blessed
PS I activated the 1 drop with 1 drop 50% activator - in his drinking water (1/2 gal in a closed container, I put 20 - 25 drops unactivated MMS and I change it daily).
He is only 15 lbs so I thing the 3 drops is too much for him. According to Jim's book the dose for a 25 lb dog is only 1 - so our little ones should only get 1/2 drop.
The way Pam taught me to do that is: TO make ½ drop -- Per Bishop Pam Gotcher - Activate 1 drop – add 1 oz. (1/8 c water or 2 T. water) – add 1 drop DMSO (if using it - I DON"T use DMSO for Scot) – then give them ½ of the mixture = ½ drop -- to actually give him a full 1/2 drop I would need to
use a syringe and give him 13 ml to the ½ drop.
My dog weighs 15-16 lbs so because of his weight I should only do ½ drop. I started out at ½ drop every 2 hrs. for 6 doses, then increased it to ½ drop every hour for 8 doses, he was doing worse, so I decreased it to only 3 ml (instead of 13 ml) each hr. for 8 hrs. and he started improving.
Someone, sorry don't remember who, said even if I only gave him a "smidgen' the every hr even if for only 4 hrs was the important thing. I'm not doing it for 8 hrs now, had cut down to 5 hrs a day.
The only thing left with Lil Scot now, is a noise in his nasal - maybe like snoring - But he had been doing that from day one, only it was much louder and at that time the vets had said that his lungs were perfect and clear - so it has to be coming from his nasal passages.
I do know that Prednisone is a very powerful med and when you take them off it must be very slow -
do a smaller amount for 3 or 4 days then decrease it again for 3 or 4 days, etc etc. I took a pill cut it in half, then smaller, then smaller to take them off very gradually.
We all love you and woofie - keep the faith and know that IF the time comes for you to let him go, the Lord will let you know and will give you peace - remember - no matter what that you have done your very very best and no one could have done better. Woofie knows it.
Be blessed
PS I activated the 1 drop with 1 drop 50% activator - in his drinking water (1/2 gal in a closed container, I put 20 - 25 drops unactivated MMS and I change it daily).
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13 Feb 2014 05:46 #39927
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hi bonnie
here is a link that i found very helpful in treating my king charles cavalier
mms4life.wordpress.com/mms-protocolactivation/mms-methods-and-pets-animals/
hope it helps
jeff
here is a link that i found very helpful in treating my king charles cavalier
mms4life.wordpress.com/mms-protocolactivation/mms-methods-and-pets-animals/
hope it helps
jeff
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14 Feb 2014 14:42 #39970
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Jeffers - thank you for this info, I looked it up and it sounds like pretty good info - haven't read it all yet, but it really helps to have even more for our little "best Friends"
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14 Feb 2014 18:52 #39978
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i willl keep you posted on anything i find blessed as you are obviously as dog mad as me i am worried that we have not heard from bonnie and it brings tears to my eyes just thinking about it.
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take care
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15 Feb 2014 02:29 #39990
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Jeffers, thank you. I try to keep checking daily to see if she has posted again. I also am very worried for her and Woofie. I know how much she loves her woofie. I just lost my older scottie, 2 years ago and so I know how it feels. I just wish I'd known about MMS back then, he might have still been with me. My little ones are my heart, my best buddies. Thank God for MMS and the wonderful people on the forum who
genuinely care.
genuinely care.
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